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Okay.

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Hi there, everybody. Welcome to the Countrywide Coordinator call with Anna Maria Riesinger. My name is Michelle Ford. I'm one of the coordinators for the California Assembly, along with Janice Toomey. And we want to welcome you here tonight

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It is Thursday, October 22nd, 2026. It's about a quarter past the hour, and we're going to go ahead and get started on our meeting

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And pardon me, I am behind the wheel, but not for much longer. Is there anyone on the call tonight

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That would like to open us up in a prayer

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Michelle, I'll do the prayer

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Awesome. Thank you, Cynthia.

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You got it.

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At this point, Lord, we want to take a minute, and we want to thank you for the lung and the air in our lungs that we may breathe. For everybody who has sick family, sick people who are with hospice going to pass from

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Life into death and they're in the midst of transition, I pray for the family

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strength that they may be able to endure to the end. I ask that each and every one here open their mind and expand their mind to learn to communicate

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And that forgiveness always be on the top of the list.

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And I ask that in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen, so be it, Cynthia. Thank you. That was beautiful.

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All right, John Russell, are you ready to do that Bivens?

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Yes, I am. Good evening, everybody, and welcome. This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and post an inflammatory language in the public forum or including the chat is forbidden and shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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To eliminate all conflicts, false allegations. Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state, city, or county present

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Do you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the Intelligence Committee? Is there anyone in

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Is there any response to the Bevin's decision for the first time?

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And a response for the second time.

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And a response for the third time.

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Anyone who was here under false pretenses, anyone who was working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or a municipal United States, anyone who's being paid, of course, to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the premises

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If they subsequently show up as a federal witness, they are just credited for failure to disclose.

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Upon no response for the benefit decision, this meeting shall now proceed. Thank you.

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Awesome. I think you too, John Russell.

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Okay, I've arrived at my destination, but I was not looking down to see if Anna has joined the call just yet. Is Anna on

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Not yet.

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Not yet. Okay. And I do see that we already have many hands up. Are there any hands that are up that are not necessarily for Anna? You may have general questions or concerns that you would like to talk about on the call tonight.

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And if that applies to you, go ahead and unmute.

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Okay, so I take that to mean that everybody who has a hand up is waiting for Anna. Is that right?

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Michelle, this is Deanna. I actually have a question.

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Hi, Deanne.

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Hi.

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I got some feedback from a specific person, our assembly that I was

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An embarrassment to the Utah Assembly.

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and I I just I just honestly want to know if

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If what I did last week was in bad taste.

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Oh man, that's a tough situation to be in. My heart goes out to you.

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Here's the thing

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No, I'm on the phone, honey, I'm on my Zoom.

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I'm on my Zoom

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Love you, baby.

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That is a tough situation to be in, and whenever someone is taking on the responsibility of being a coordinator, we're always open to

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scrutiny. So with that being said, whenever there is scrutiny, it can be very uncomfortable

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And I… I do understand why you got that feedback from last week.

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I wouldn't necessarily have the same feedback

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But I mean, if you and I were, you know, just best friends, having a phone conversation, and it was just one-on-one

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I would say that

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what you talked about may have embarrassed other people on your assembly

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Because you brought it forth to such a large group

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But that doesn't make you a bad woman or make you someone that

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you know, it's not like you did something wrong, per se. This doesn't deserve any kind of punishment, or anything like that, but I think that when people are in the public

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And they're facing, you know, bringing forward the dirty laundry, let's say, of an assembly

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Sometimes it can ruffle a lot of feathers.

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So

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Okay, can

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I, you know, it's one of these things where it's a learning experience, you know?

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Can I clarify one thing? When you were talking, were you talking about

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Last week, were you talking about my behavior? Or were you talking about

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About other people's behavior. Because I just want to clarify

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Because

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I just want to make sure

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Because if it's something that I need to fix.

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I'm willing to fix it, but I also want to make sure that these people that I'm dealing with

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Or also that I'm dealing with it in the right way

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So I just want feedback and then and then I'm gonna yield my time.

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Are you frozen?

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Michelle, can I say something?

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Deanne

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There's

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It looks like the sale might be froze

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Yeah.

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But

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Yeah, and this is Rocky. I have no hard feelings or anything. I appreciate you bringing it to the meeting

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And, you know, it's the only way that we're gonna pick things is when we talk to each other.

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That's all I wanted to say to you. Thank you.

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Thanks, Rocky.

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That's kind

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Thank you, Rocky. That was that was great. And you know those are the things that we have to promote within our assemblies too. You know, we're also the first time we get a dissent or somebody is disagreeing with us

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We go right to, they're attacking me, right?

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And… and it's not an attack.

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I'm going to tell you there are very few instances, really, where it's an attack

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When we feel challenged, we have to step back and retrospect as to who we are and what we're doing

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What we've said

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and decide whether or not those things are the things

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You know, we have to be introspective about that regarding ourselves, self-evaluation.

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And then if there's some merit to it, then we have to take that under advisement.

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And if there's something that needs to be changed, then we change it, right? We course correct

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That goes for our assemblies, too. If our assemblies are not going in the right direction. and we're we make comment to that doesn't make us bad. We all want the same thing. We're all here for the same purpose

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And I've said that before, that if you think the people, some of the people on your assembly are bad, you have met bad people yet.

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Not at all.

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There are some out there that are going to be very challenging for you.

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I

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For your whole assembly.

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I find it interesting that like

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Anna will say something or someone will, Michelle will say something or you know, and I'll think, yep, exactly. And then I'll get an email that will say, yeah, they were talking about you

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You know, so it's just interesting how people are really quick to point fingers and

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They are

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So I just

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And

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Yeah

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I'm not here to create trouble. I just, I just wanted to… I guess I want to apologize to everyone here if… if I made anyone feel uncomfortable.

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And I'll continue working on my assembly.

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So, Deanne, one of the things that Anna has said in the past, but also

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If you really look into the issue

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When someone says, I'm offended, the offense is theirs.

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It may not be, it may not be anything that you actually said or did that offended them.

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that it was even offensive, but they took offense to it, and they have to own that

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And a lot of times it has nothing to do with, again, with what we said or what we did. Now, if it was, then obviously you need to be introspective about that, right? And own up to it and say, gee, I made a mistake

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You know, being

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Being admitting when we make mistakes is sometimes it's embarrassing, it's uncomfortable

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But it also can be some of the greatest strength that you've ever mustered in your life, and you get the greatest response from saying, I made a mistake, I'll course correct

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Okay.

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But to constantly, you know, go after people

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Because of maybe their misconceptions or maybe a mistake that they made. You know, a genuine mistake, not something guised as a mistake.

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It's important for us to recognize the differences in that, right?

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And we're here to provide that kind of mercy. Even our drill assemblies are built to put in that kind of mercy.

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The other assemblies, the other district assembly and their general assembly is not.

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It's there to punish. It's there to fine. It's there to exact their pound of flesh

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But in our assembly, we're challenged with trying to begin to find ways to course correct

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And provide mercy to the situation at the same time, right?

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I often

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Question

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I offer to help

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Question, what if there's people in your assembly that just want that pound of flesh

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Don't know how to have mercy.

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Well, you know, sometimes you just

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It's very difficult. I recognize what what happens. Okay

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And I'm going to tell you that there are all types of

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Jobs, occupations, things that we work at

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where you're going to encounter that in the public

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They don't know how to behave any differently. They just don't.

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When I was a principal

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I had my boss, who was the pastor of the parish where I was a principal

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He made everyone a flag, everyone of the administrators a flag.

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And you would think, oh, well, what's the flag all about, right? What's that going to do for somebody?

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But when we all had one of those issues

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We

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State the issue, raise the flag, wave it real hard, everybody wave their flag. It was over.

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You just have to develop the skin to go, that's their problem

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If it's not really true, don't own it. Right?

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If it's again, if it's introspective and you see where maybe there's a part of it that you could change that makes it different.

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Then

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You course correct? Do you make the apology and and you do better in the future, right?

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But if it doesn't really belong to you, don't let them put that on you.

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Don't

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Okay?

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There's always going to be somebody wanting to place who they think you are.

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Who they think you should be.

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who they think you should act like they're going to always be those people out there.

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Okay

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I feel like, and I'm sorry to take so much time, but Anna's not on here yet

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I feel like

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You know, when there's people that just have to keep saying blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah, blah blah, blah. I just don't give credence to it, right? I'm not gonna explain anything, I'm not going to defend myself. There's no reason

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There's no reason, but it's just like when people just keep throwing stuff at you.

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And you're just ignoring, and you're not battling back

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You would think at some point they'd be like, huh?

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They're not answering me. You know

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Nope, not clueless.

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There are some people who are completely clueless.

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And

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Aaron

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They're fighting themselves and you would think at some point they'd be like, huh, this isn't fun.

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Nope. They are so unhappy and in where they are that the only thing they can do is try to make other people unhappy.

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Okay, that's where they drive their their

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happiness or their existence from

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And just, you know, again, be introspective if there's something you need to own, own it. If not.

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You know, a lot of times what I find to do is thank you for your opinion.

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Because frankly, everyone has one, just like they have certain body parts, right?

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Some of them stink

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Right

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It's your opinion

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Thank you very much. See you bye.

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So

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And I want to say thank you to Dennis on Arizona and Cheryl on Arizona because

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They got dragged into it again this week and they've been awesome as well. So everyone that just keeps getting dragged in, oh my gosh

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Thank you for being solid, amazing people

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I yield. Thank you. Thank you so much, Lisa.

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Thank you, Michelle. Thank you, everybody.

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You're welcome, Dan.

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I yield

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May I… I have a question for the group

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Go ahead

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Okay. Hey, you guys.

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The letter, the handwritten letter of Anna

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Sorry to interrupt, but I have Anna on with us, and she just wants to give a quick announcement, okay, everybody?

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Okay, go ahead, Anna.

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Yeah, a pool fellows and gals and gals, I'm here in the falls of Providence Medical Center in Anchorage, Alaska

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And, it's

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Looking like I'm not going to get broken loose in time to

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To actually attend the meeting tonight. It's unexpected that this came up just the way it did, but it did

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Harold is doing better

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He is, dirtily optimistic.

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The doctors are guardedly optimistic that he's going to make a recovery

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His son is here from out of state, and I am kind of the lynch person here in Alaska because like so many other families

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No, we no longer have that kind of long term everybody stays in the same place situation. So

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Harold doesn't have any actual family here in Alaska

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And this long-term care plan is going to require assistance from me and from Shannon and other people in the Federation

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To make it work. Anyway, so we're all getting debriefed on the plan

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And, that's what's going on.

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Oh, I mean, it's good news. It's just kind of interrupting our schedule.

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I know a lot of people are beginning to get the information about the olive branch trust and the olive tree

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Foundation and all these other things

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They're beginning to come into play for people on the land and soil

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These are very small little grants, averaging around $5,000

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It's only a small amount of money, it's only for emergencies, it's a one-time thing, it's not a replacement for Signed in America or anything else

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It's just a

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Just a little emergency help that we could throw out for those that are most in need

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And it's

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Mostly going toward things like emergency food, fuel

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In some cases.

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There are people that need hearing aids and can't afford them, need eyeglasses, can't afford them, need emergency dental care, you know, can't even afford to get a tooth pulled

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And so that's the kind of thing that

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This little grant program

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is designed for

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And, so I just wanted to put in a little plug about that and let everyone know what it's intended for, what its limits are

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It's for people on the land and soil. It's, you know.

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Resources, our kind of money that's coming back, beginning to make just this little tiny good grab of money into the

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the community, but nonetheless

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It's a very good thing to just start the

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entire process

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I think you can all tell from my articles that there are some major, major movements or some major changes. There's some huge things that are beginning to be done

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And since we cleared the air jurisdiction issues this past

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10 days we are beginning to deal with the seed jurisdiction issues

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And this is very difficult because

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Well, there's many different aspects of it. There's military aspect, there's the civilian aspect

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And then there's the problem that the Bar Association has

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And that they've been operating under a form of law

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That requires the death sentence for what they've done

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And they've been accusing me

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You know, the people that are bringing forward the position of the land and soil

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They've been accusing us of demanding their death

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And that isn't true

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What has happened is that they've been in violation of their own law

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And it's their own law that deems what they've done a capital crime

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That requires capital punishment.

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So it's their law that demands it, not us. We had nothing to do with it. We are not commanding anyone be killed over this. We are not asking for the death penalty against anybody.

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And so I want you to know that that

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Completely untrue. We are not asking for that at all. We don't want that to happen.

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Jim offered amnesty to all of them. Eric has continued that amnesty. So we are not the ones that are requiring anything like that

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And anybody that

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wants to cease functioning under that law

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And wants to break their contract with that law can do so

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Yeah, they don't have to continue in error. They can come home like anybody else.

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So they do not have to stay under that law. They do not have to be punished under that law

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They can claim the amnesty of the land and soil. And their lives can be spared and their families and their homes can be spared. There's nothing

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In us, that is demanding

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Any kind of bloodletting justice. We don't believe in that. It's not part of our tradition.

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And any question about that was answered a couple, 2, 3 years ago when Jim 1st announced the amnesty. So if anyone accuses you of of having any part of

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Of that, you can just come.

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We fight the peace flag because we are at peace

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We

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You know, we claim the law of the land

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We do not claim or wish to live under the law of the sea or impose upon anyone else

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So that's important for you to know

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Other things.

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because of everything that's come out in recent days about the British royal family and different things that were done to them

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But suddenly, all of a sudden, we have a lot more credibility with everyone, because they can see that what we've been complaining about

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is exactly what the Boyle family has been experiencing over the past 20 or 30 years also

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And so ironically enough

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Their suffering has amounted to an increase in our credibility and the credibility of our claims

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And that in retrospect is something that has been one of the hardest things to accomplish is that even though we have been in the right all along and even though we've had the evidence all along

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Too often it's been difficult for us to get the attention centered on what we were saying, you know, the people just kind of looked at us like we were talking horses

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And the information

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was offered, and it was not acted upon, and so many other instances like that, but

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We were the we were the 10 hats. We were the sovereign citizens. We were the you know the patriot whack cops

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Well

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That's changing rapidly

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And many top people are now looking at the evidence and doing their own research. And guess what, folks?

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We were right all along

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So, it's time to take a bow and feel good about yourselves

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Let that be some comfort for those of you who have lost friends and family members over this

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I know it doesn't really make up for it, but at least you have the

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You have the affirmation behind you that, yeah, you were right.

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And it's being included and it's being acted upon now.

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In ways that, it never was before. So

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Expect that Tyler will be big changes

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In Colorado, the entire judiciary is under investigation for corruption

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The things that prompted this were not necessarily directly connected with the kind of corruption that we're talking about all the time.

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But, inevitably, as the investigation progresses.

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That kind of corruption, our kind of corruption, the systemic corruption of the system

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begins to become evident

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So what started out with investigations about bribery and about coercive abuse of power and gross negligence and things of that nature

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is now branching out into issues of jurisdiction of, you know, deceit and fraud, illegal taking and illegal confiscation

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illegal imprisonment

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Aggravated identity theft

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Inland piracy

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Those sorts of things are now coming up in the course of the investigation

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And I think that's a very hopeful sign that the civilian courts are now being examined for corruption in general

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And that will then open up the whole can of worms so that we finally have the opportunity to come forward and bring the complaints that we've had all along and that many of our members had

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For, things like evictions and property seizures and incarceration

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One of the things in Colorado is the sentencing of the Colorado nine

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Essentially, for a thought crime

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And you know the extreme sentences that these men were given

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You know, 38, 40 years in prison, when they actually didn't cause anyone any harm, didn't, offer any violence, didn't do anything that was

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Even remotely

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Conserving of that kind of a sentence

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So hopefully we'll get a chance to bring that forward and get them home.

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Anyway, some very hopeful things happening all over the country

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and some hopeful things happening here for Harold, too.

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And I'm

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Looking forward to being able to spend more time over the next week

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Bringing forward some direct help and also to move forward some some projects that have been a little bit stalled

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In the interim here

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We've got good progress with our Continental Marshals program

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We've got a budget for them. We've got uniforms slated. We've got the

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You know, the stars and commission work that we need to do.

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So you can look forward to having an active and

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And professional continental Marshal staff on hand now

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And let's see. Yes, we're working on the public laws. Those are going to be issued one at a time

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They'll be in in final form so that they'll have the enactment clauses and things attached now

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It should be pretty easy for you to, you know, just have a meeting and vote on those that you receive in your… in your meeting cycles.

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I think they'll be self-explanatory.

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So hopefully that will go smoothly and we will have the continued support for those measures

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There'll be a couple new things to consider that are not public laws, but are more like

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I guess you could say a referendum, more like a an opinion poll. Okay

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And those involve things like

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the opening of our Federation Court

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So that will be explained along with the literature that comes with the referendum itself.

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Okay, well, I'm right here in the middle of a busy hospital corridor talking and I'm sure that there's

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There are things I'm missing. So I'm going to bid you all a fun good night. If you have urgent questions, just send them to my email and make your state the subject heading

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You know, like, just write Idaho or Wyoming or Minnesota and that will flag it for me. So

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Sorry that this has been kind of a hurried and

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Chaotic little message here, but it's the best I could work out for this evening

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Okay, guys, all right, go get them.

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Thank you, Anna. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us tonight. And on behalf of everybody, please give Harold our best. We're praying for him and pulling for him, and thank God that you're there and others are there to support him

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Yeah, he was pretty happy to see us all poop into his room this morning. Yeah, I could tell that he had been alone all night and he was happy to see our bright smiley faces.

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Oh, nice.

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Guys, take good care and I'll be back on track here Monday

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Awesome. Okay, thank you very much, Anna. You got lots of hearts and love going on the screen. So thank you for taking the time to check in with us, okay? We love you.

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Thank you, dear. Okay, you too. Bye-bye.

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Okay, everybody.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. I know you were right in the middle of talking. When she called me. And so I apologize that I interrupted what was going on right before she was like

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Okay, just tell them I can't make it. And I was like, maybe you could tell them. So it ended up being that she told us a little bit more than what she was originally going to say, which is, I can't talk tonight, but

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Please continue with I know we were talking with Deanne and Lisa, you were talking as well. So if we want to just kind of pick up where we left off, that now would be a great time to do that.

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I think Dolores had something she wanted to present to the group. That's where we were

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Oh, super. Okay, great. Go ahead, Dolores.

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Well, I wanted to give a reminder, Joanna, but also to everybody that next Friday, not tomorrow, the 30th, she's going to be again on the

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On the program that channel.com with Cal Washington and let's hope that she can make it at 8am in the morning and we all enjoy a good learning session. I can

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On the chat here, I can put the

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What I send you, Michelle, as well, send you… I send it to you by email, but I'll put it here for everybody to keep it handy. It will be 12

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PM for us on Michigan, I don't know about that, but for Ana is definitely 8 AM in the morning, next Friday 30th

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Okay, and the other thing was a question for the group. I know that the Anna, when Anna wrote a handwritten letter to Trump, I know that somebody took the trouble to actually type it

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And I know I've seen it, but I lost track of that document. I don't know if any of you have it handy. Not the handwritten letter, but the actual transcription of the letter into

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you know, a typing form, because somebody is very interested in reading and studying it, for this interview, and it would be good to have that document. I know I've seen it, but

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I can't locate it right now

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So

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You know? Yeah, I definitely saw it too. I'm going to look through my external hard drive and look for that. I hope I saved it. I know I have the handwritten one, but I don't remember if I saved the transcribed one

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Thank you, Dolores. And I'll also

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May I

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for your email.

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May I

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Yeah, Lori.

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Yes, I believe it's on the TASA site.

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Oh, cool.

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Yeah, I saw it on the data, but I can't find it now, so I don't know if

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If somebody could drop it in the chat here, that would be fantastic. Or at least give us the link exactly where to find it

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That would also be wonderful

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Super. If anyone happens to have that, that would be fantastic.

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Okay, any other hands up that are not for Anna?

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Okay, well then I guess with that.

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Oh!

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John Russell has a question. Maybe somebody could answer.

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Okay, go ahead.

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All right, one of my members wanted to know

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How do we get a justice in our court system so we can marry two ASNs?

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What is the procedure? What do we need? Training? What? That is the question.

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Is that too broad?

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Well, if you're going to have a justice, that means you're going to have someone on the county level that's going to be empowered by your assembly to serve in that role.

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So that would really ultimately be up to your assembly to do a public, you know, first of all, that person has to make a public acknowledgement that they want to serve in that capacity.

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And if your assembly is willing to allow that man or woman to serve in that capacity, then you'll go through an appropriate election process and get that person, that man or woman affirmed in your… whatever your affirmation is

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And they could hold that position.

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a mimic and marry the ASNs that want to get married then after that

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Okay.

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I don't see why not, as long as they went through an appropriate election process and are affirmed in their role.

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And it's

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So may I

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the public announcement, the publishing in the newspaper, you know, all of those steps. But yeah, Lisa

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So you really don't even need a justice to have two people married. All you need is two witnesses. On Tassa website, and John, you were given this paperwork through recording secretary training. There is a solemn proclamation of marriage

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All right.

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And as long as you have two witnesses

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You can have a marriage and they would just exchange their vows, their promise to each other publicly and before witnesses, and that's really all you need. You don't have to have a justice

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Okay.

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Yeah, I remember that as soon as you mentioned it. I thank you for reminding an old guy that wake up.

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Yeah, there you go. All right

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Thank you. I appreciate it, everybody. I yield.

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Now, what if what if an assembly wanted a justice to perform that task

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Well, they can do it. See, it's… it is the same. So

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Anytime we have someone like a justice who has a seal, you would have a seal, right?

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That justice acts not only in his capacity as justice, but as a man.

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That's two witnesses.

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Or a recording secretary who witnesses as a woman or a man

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And a recording secretary. It's two witnesses.

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So no matter what, I mean, that's essentially the way it shakes out in the eyesight of basically official paperwork.

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Right? And they can have a justice marry them.

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But he's still acting as two witnesses.

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Does that make sense?

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I've never heard that before. Thank you, Lisa.

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You're welcome.

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Yeah, a recording secretary is always counts as two witnesses. So does a notary.

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A notary counts as the man or woman that they are and as their office is a notary.

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That's it.

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That's the magic

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I see someone waving their hand like this.

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Yes, sorry, Michelle. Jason on Utah. To weigh in on this one. I was able to unearth my great-grandfather's family Bible

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And the way they did it in the past, and this actually went about 3 generations back, is that when two people wanted to marry, they would go ahead and they'd get whoever they wanted to officiate, pass the vows, because it's making a private contract between the man and the woman and God.

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And then they would fill out in the Bible, you know, the names, witnesses, signing it, and they would record it in the Bible. There was no justice, there was no anything. When it comes to that, it was just record in the Bible, and

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They were able to take, at least on my great-grandfather's marriage, that Bible to a de facto court to legally change my great-grandmother's name, that legal name. And they only needed a Bible. You know, they didn't need a marriage license or anything from the county or the state, they just had the Bible. And my great grandmother's surname was changed to my great grandfather's last name. So that's just been the way that they've done it forever and a month. And

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Just there's, you know, no need to involve any of these things. I mean, I mean, if you wanted justice, great, but, you know, it's absolutely something that, you know, is not necessary, just the way they did it in the past, that Bible that all that good fun stuff. So,

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Just my thoughts, because I've come across that in my family, and it's a great piece of our family history, so I yield

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That's awesome. I love that. I know that that's a thing from the past and having it be in our book at home. And I've yet to find our family

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Bible from back in the day, so I'm happy for you that you found yours.

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That is awesome.

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Maybe we all find our family heirlooms like that, you know?

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May I interrupt?

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Michelle, man, this is Michael

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Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Michael.

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I know I'm jumping out of order, but this is on that topic. As a state justice on Ohio, and as a man, I would be more than happy to assist people wedding. I think we should be careful about our terminology

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Marriage is a state contract. It's a joint venture, and it has to do with the state of state

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bureaucracy and policies

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Okay, the covenant

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of wedlock is an entirely different story. And that's what goes back to God. So if we want to stay on our jurisdiction

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And watch our terminology, the correct terminology would be the covenant of wedlock

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As opposed to a joint business venture

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That's a state sanctioned marriage.

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Just to point that out. Thank you very much.

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So awesome. Thank you for that reminder, Michael. We need that. We need those corrections because sometimes

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Sometimes we get lazy and accidentally don't correct ourselves. So I really appreciate that course correction.

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Yes

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I'm just real big on terminology and I'm a big pain in people's butts, but that's because I've done the studies that I've done. That's all just trying to help

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No, that's fantastic. That's fantastic. Thank you so much. And also, I see that Julie put in the chat matrimony, which is interesting because usually when I'm talking to men and women that are on the land regarding

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Quote, a marriage, quote, marriage that when they bring up marriage, I talk about matrimony

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And so wedlock, I have not done the deep dive on that term. So tonight's full of learning. I appreciate that very much. Thank you, Michael.

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Yeah, sure

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May I, Michelle? I did post that into the chat, the Trump letter

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Oh, perfect.

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Thank you very much.

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I am going to grab it. We should all grab it.

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Ma'am, Michelle, I posted in there as well, like a PDF, and then I put the link in there as well

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Super

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I yield. Senator Alzari.

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Amazing. Thank you, Sandra.

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Okay

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All right, anything else for tonight?

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I have an issue, Michelle

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Sure, go ahead, David.

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David Hera on California. Right before the meeting, I got a phone call that there is a person in LA who has lived here for a long time

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Just got papered up in like June 16th. He's on the LRO. I just checked to see what was there. So he's, like, got his 928s and so on

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And apparently the word is he's facing

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deportation

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And he's asking, you know, he's asking us for help in what you know. What do we do to

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to support his

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situation. I don't think he needs to be deported at all. He's adopted California as his home state now. I presume

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And do you know who his recording secretary was?

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Yes, I do. It was Teresa

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Yeah.

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Well, you don't have to say it live, you know, on the team, but if you want to send it to me, because his recording secretary

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Yeah.

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Would know how long he's been on California. Obviously, that is over seven years

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Yeah, that's the

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Okay.

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That's where I got the phone call right before this meeting from our recording secretary, and that papered him up in LA. So she knows him and

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And so on. So, I can… I can email you or forward you the info if you want, but

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The question is, what he's wanting to know, who can he talk to to get some support to

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you know, keep from being deported. That's the question. I yield

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Thank you, David. Yeah, I'll look forward to you sending that over and we'll jump on it. Thank you.

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Yeah, okey-doke.

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.000
All right, anybody else for tonight?

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.000
Yes, Karen Sandler on Georgia

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.000
Okay, go ahead, Karen.

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I have a question regarding use of proxy for voting

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:47.000
Either at assembly meetings or on public. And I know on the North Carolina

00:46:47.000 --> 00:47:04.000
podcast, they talked about that's a no-no. So since I've been on Georgia, they've always done proxy at assembly meetings.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:05.000
Yeah.

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:10.000
forever. And I'm thinking… I started looking it up, and it says it's for shareholders, and why are we doing that? And I think we need to stop. So I just wanted confirmation on that. I'm not crazy. Hopefully, that

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.000
It's not it's

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Okay.

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.000
No, you are not crazy. That definitely should not be happening on any of our assemblies.

00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.000
I thought, yeah. And

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If you don't show up, you don't get a vote.

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No.

00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.000
Right, and no mail-in ballots either, right? Because this has been a discussion. I'm going, this can't be, I mean. Okay.

00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.000
Thank you.

00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.000
Yeah, you're welcome.

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:37.000
Anna has stated that several times. If you don't show up, you don't get a vote.

00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.000
But this

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If you want to exercise your right to vote show up.

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:46.000
We have some de facto thinkers, I guess you could say

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And sometimes it's a little like hitting your head against the wall

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:55.000
But I'll keep at it. Thank you.

00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:06.000
Well, you know, the other thing I've been a witness to is that people tend to think that they are

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:13.000
they're they're part of an assembly in order to control the lives of others.

00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:19.000
Okay, so that needs to be made clear whether you show up or not

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:25.000
To vote on something or participate in any kind of an election

00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:32.000
There's no majority rule over any of your lives. Okay. All the

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:40.000
Things at this point in assembling and everything that we're working on has to do with the work of government

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.000
The work of, you know, the work of all of the different

00:48:45.000 --> 00:49:03.000
committees, the work of the different roles, the work of standing up the four pillars, you know, the work of getting our courts functioning, you know. So it has… it has nothing to do with men and women on the land that are not volunteering in roles and doing these things, you

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:08.000
So I hope that that is clear too for people that are

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:17.000
wanting to do such things as vote by proxy, because they have a… clearly they have a majority mindset… majority rule mindset about something

00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:34.000
And they sorry, I know that's an assumption. I apologize. I didn't mean to make that assumption, but usually it's for that is like, oh, no, there's a topic that we're all going to be talking about and we have to win. And if it's honestly that close of a call

00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:49.000
I think that we talked about this briefly last week. But if it's that close of a call that you need every little, you know, every little person's, you know, man or woman's voice counted, it must not be that good of a… of a motion.

00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:56.000
We should be so excited as a full team to do to accomplish something.

00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:02.000
You know what I mean? And if it's divide, divide, divide, it's not

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.000
fruitful. It's not gonna work.

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.000
It will fall

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.000
Yeah.

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.000
Cool, Karen, thanks for bringing that question forward.

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:17.000
Now, Deanne, I saw you doing one of these a minute ago. Do you have something else you'd like to

00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.000
Bring forth

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No.

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Now

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Nope, okay

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I sent an email. I'm done. I'm good.

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Okay.

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All right, well, I don't see any other hands up. I guess we get the rest of the night off, y'all.

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:48.000
I think we can solve the world's problems if they'll get off their broom for Halloween and jump it for marriage instead, we'll all be happy.

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Final word

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Good, good point there, Cynthia.

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All right, everybody

00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.000
Hi, Michelle. I had a question

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Go ahead, Manuel.

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I had an epiphany when he was doing the Bivens

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And I was just wondering if it still has to do with the defect of courts, but

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Several ASNs. I know we want to get away from it, but for those who have to still deal with the district courts, if several of the tapered-up ASNs went in

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And did the Bivens to them

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What kind

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:30.000
What kind of reactions do you think we would get from him?

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I think it would be fun to try

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I mean, it would certainly make for good social media videos. You might go viral on something like that.

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:41.000
But

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I just got the crazy thought and I thought I'd mention it

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Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I do think that if you have any court matters and you're being drug into these ridiculous courtrooms, you know, bring witnesses with you and have witness testimony documentation

00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:05.000
at the ready to be able to have each witness autograph for one another that

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:10.000
whoever is the, quote, defendant was in the room without the defendant actually ever having to

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.000
quote, you know, I'm saying defendant like this, right? Defendant.

00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:17.000
Well, they're still leaving me alone, there's still a

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semi-active warrant, I want to say, but

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Every year, because it's been… well, it's been two and a half years, every year on the day that I was supposed to go to court, the sheriffs will show up, and to be all intimidating and stuff, but I'm never home

00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.000
And then that's it.

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And the cops leave me alone now

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They just… they go the other way

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It's great. I love it.

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Well, I'd call that a win.

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Definitely.

00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.000
All right, have a good night. Thank you very much.

00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.000
You're welcome. Thank you, you too.

00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.000
All right, Nancy, go ahead. You've got your hand up

00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:01.000
So I think it's really important we talk about

00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.000
The undocumented people

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We have a lot of undocumented people who have become Americans on Texas.

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And I don't have the slightest clue

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:22.000
what our assembly could do if people were going to be deported

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We have people who have been Texans forever

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And have been undocked for 20, 30 years and nothing was addressed. And as we know, the Constitution does give the executive

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The authority

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of immigration

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through the contract

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that we have with the de facto

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How do we handle that going forward is the silver bullet appropriate? Is a demand for performance and correction

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:16.000
appropriate. What does everybody think about this? I think it's a really important conversation to have

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It is an important conversation and I do see Lisa's hand up and before I call on you, Lisa, I want to chime in on one thing because you're right about the executive having this certain authority over immigration. But I want to just remind everybody that it's immigration into their jurisdiction

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It isn't immigration into hours. Okay. We're just people of the land.

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Which is where we belong and we get to adopt whatever land we want to be on.

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You know, the whole legal system has a different set of rules and in most cases, it's not very commonsensical.

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But the bottom line is, when we're dealing with immigration matters, we have to make sure that the man or the woman that just got themselves status corrected

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Is clear about that part. Because if they don't if they don't comprehend what their status means.

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They won't have a very easy time of articulating it if they ever get themselves into hot water.

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So, a lot of it starts with education and making sure that whoever it was that did their paperwork

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Definitely verify, confirmed how long they've been here. You know, that's a big piece of it. No assembly wants to be put on the line for someone that hasn't actually been there long enough or meets the eligibility

00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:48.000
threshold, or whatever the word is. Okay, they need to be eligible for status correction.

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So, that's something that, you know, before I do any kind of advocacy, that's what I'm going to be checking first. And then

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The education part of it.

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Because they clearly want to choose California, this particular man wants to choose California. Went through all the paperwork to do it.

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and now needs to make sure that what he's standing for is standing in the right jurisdiction.

00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:31.000
But yeah, there's probably documentation and Lisa, I would love to hear your take on this piece of it. And I just have to close the door, but I'm right here. Go ahead.

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Okay, so we have to remember too at what level of jurisdiction does that apply to? Right?

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So we get our authority to to do an and evoke

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The immigration laws of 1779 through the Federation

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It makes immigration in that international jurisdiction

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of the Federation

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Now, here's the rub

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We have continental marshals that aren't posted yet. They're very soon. It will be very soon.

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And so, you know, we're working on some of the final things. We've had to redo some stars and and get final postings and things together. But I would expect that probably within the next 3 or 4 weeks, we're going to have Continental marshals

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Posted. Okay, meaning they will be active, commissioned on, you know, ready to do the job. And I would think that the most appropriate

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avenue would be for those continental marshals at that time to step in

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and turn around and have a conversation with the de facto counterparts

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And the marshals on the… on the federal on the U.S. jurisdiction

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So, you know, you're looking at again

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You know, unfortunately, right now we still don't have that quite have that teeth, right?

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Or close. And getting closer all the time.

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So once we get this all resettled again, I would think and maybe that would be

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Something that could be done is to contact

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Chief Alba

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and have cheap alba, some people call him Aha, but have Chief Alba

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Possibly even reach out.

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and speak to immigration officials if possible.

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So that's where I would start is I would start with Chief Alba and begin to have that interface. And then maybe your your your area chief

00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:07.000
Continental Marshall be able to get involved in that in that issue.

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Okay.

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Remember, jurisdiction

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Has a lot to do with what we're seeing and the federation would be a direct interface in terms of that particular activity.

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Thank you, Lisa.

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Super valuable.

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Okay, Missy, your hand is up.

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Yes, I have a question. I know that there is a length of time that people can have to be off of public assistance before they change their status. And Lisa, is that seven years in a day?

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Without public assistance, or am I wrong?

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Okay, so that would be if there are

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An undocumented immigrant. They would have to be self-supporting seven years and a day.

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If they are already a US citizen or born on our states, there is no requirement, but you do have to pay for them up as if

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They are basically a federal employee if they're receiving federal assistance.

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So how do we go about asking them about that?

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You'd ask them.

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Okay, so whenever

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Are you receiving any federal or municipal assistance? Food stamps

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Okay.

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state housing, welfare, any of those kinds of things

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And because it does affect the paperwork that they do. So what would happen? So here's what happens if they do regular 1779 paperwork

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And they're receiving federal, you know, welfare or federal benefits of any sort that are entitlements, not necessarily, you know, like Social Security where they've worked for it and you

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It's being paid out to them

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And even that's a little arguable point as to whether that's even that if it's

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If they haven't earned it and they get Social Security disability, that's not

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Doesn't make them a federal employee at that point.

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Okay, so go ahead. I'm sorry.

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But if they are working, if they're receiving like Section 8 housing, that's a federal grant right there.

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And so you have to be able to know that because if they would declare a 1779 and then do their declaration of political status and send that in on their letters

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And the government

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puts the two together

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Right.

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Right.

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They could lose all of their support and their benefits. You don't want that. You want them to do the correct paperwork, right?

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Right

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So you don't ever want to put them in jeopardy by having that happen. So for some people, they'll be able to change their status

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to American

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Their political status to American through the 1779

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But they can't really go too much further than that because they can't necessarily jeopardize any of those federal payments or municipal payments

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food stamps and

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Okay.

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Thanks.

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Because that's the last thing we want to do is interfere with their only way of income and source of survival.

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That's correct. That's correct.

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Okay, okay. That's all I was wondering because I don't know

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And I might just say that it's an instant trigger, Missy, because they may never see it.

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Right.

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And they run that… they run that chance that they'll never see it, right? But then they also run the very great risk that if they do, they may have to even pay it back

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I know that's what I'm worried about.

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Okay.

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Okay, so whenever we're recording secretaries, recording secretaries are doing the paperwork, ask them, okay, before we move on, I need to ask you, are you on public assistance?

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Section 8, food stamps and all that stuff.

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All you can do from this point is just your 1779

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Correct. Two witnesses, 1779. That's it.

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Okay. All right, that was my question. I yield. Thank you.

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Thank you, Missy.

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Denise?

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Hi, Janice.

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Michelle

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This is my co-coordinator everybody.

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I have a question, and it's really, I would like to have initiate a small dialogue

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With the coordinators and get your opinion, because I am having trouble with growing pains

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and accepting of

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AI

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So on one scale, I have a question at the end

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So on one scale, we use

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Every day to a certain level. It's proven very valuable for research. And as an aide

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In a lot of ways. And I'm not, I was originally very much opposed to it.

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I've gotten more comfortable with it, but I'm wondering how comfortable and to what level AI is

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assisting, to the point, hypothetically, if there was a, say, a meeting, a committee meeting that was scripted verbatim

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Obviously, you know, there was some personal opinions and input and free electing pro yay or nay and abstaining and all of that. But to what degree

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Like verbatim or

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Where do you draw the line? Because I need help. My I'm having a hard time accepting, but I know we need to grow, and I have a hard time with change, so can I get some

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points of view that will help me. No, make my own decision.

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I yield

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Yeah, and I would love to hear feedback too, because I'm in the same boat with Janice and

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I think a helpful tool in my opinion, this is a helpful tool that we have our IT

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guy, our head of IT, who has figured out a way that

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all of our Zoom recordings can automatically be transferred to our archives

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Through the use of AI without us having to log in and

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you know, it's like turning it into an automated

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Effort, which that's awesome. And there's going to be an emailing component where the agenda will be able to be emailed

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You know, e-blasted to our entire assembly through our server and all that stuff. So there's really some pretty cool features that are speeding up

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Some of our more manual processes, but there's also this

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Like certain manuals and books, you know, and

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I'm not talking about, you know, 10 page

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Handbooks. I'm talking about like 219 page documents that are being asked to be

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read and considered and stuff. So, for me, it seems

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overboard. Okay? But I would. I would love to hear what other assemblies are doing in regards to AI and

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:13.000
what on earth are we… where is that line? Just like Janiece just asked

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Any feedback

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So, may I, Michelle

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I'd love it. Go ahead, Lisa.

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So the big debate on AI is

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You have to train your AI

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AI has a certain strict parameter that it comes with

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To begin with, in its base

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Programming.

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And beyond that

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You can slowly begin through a series of dialogues, arguments, debates with AI

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providing other resources that it may not have been exposed to. You can you can

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Train your AI

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Now, with that said, you can also… somebody can also train it in whatever direction they want.

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And so you have to be really careful about

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The use of AI and the verification of the information that one you're putting in and two, what it's spitting out.

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And when it comes to our documents, and I guess, you know, we've heard plenty of questions about

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documents, and my name's been attached to that a lot of times because Ohio was the first to get documents out there.

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I've described our documents as bones

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Okay, they're not standard operating procedures. Yes, there's a couple areas where it does give a process specifically like financial. How do you get approval for something? What do you need to do to get approval?

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of an expense, and then how do you submit what you're going to submit to substantiate that expense, and then how do you… how does that get paid back to you? In what way, manner, or form, timeframe

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Whatever.

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But beyond that, in our

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And our decorums

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And maybe our court documents in terms of court process, because we have to have process there for due process.

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Most of what our documents are descriptions of who we are, what our positions are, what we do, what our committees are basically. And beyond that

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It should be a common sense operation of your assembly. We don't need 80 million laws

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To run our assemblies. We just don't. It is common sense.

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And it's ridiculous to think that you need

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200 pages just for a general assembly.

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Okay, nobody is going to read that.

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Nobody's going to follow it. It is just going to create confusion on your assembly

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But what you need is just guidelines and be able and worry about specifics where specifics count.

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You know, maybe it's election process.

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Maybe it's finance. It's court. But everything else is a decision of committees and a decision of the General Assembly. You don't need any more than that.

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Okay.

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And and, you know.

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We are also, even though

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We are, we have

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A basis in biblical history and in biblical description of government and and and

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biblical ability to adjudicate our issues, right? Our court systems or our justice systems.

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We do separate

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Religion from church, or religion from state.

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And we have no dedicated religion.

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And in fact, most of what we have that guide our assemblies, guide our governments come out of the book of Exodus, for goodness sakes.

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The most widely accepted

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book of the first five books of biblical history and history of man, basically. That's accepted by all the major religions on this earth.

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So it's really not even a religious thought.

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It is just, it is accepted common practice, common law, basically.

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of our assembly. So, you know, we're not going to put a name on it like Christian

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Because it's Jewish history, it's Muslim history, it's it is our Christian history as well

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So, we have to be very careful about not allowing

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Theocracy

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To creep into our assemblies.

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And in the same sense, we have to be very careful about not letting any type of religious thought creep in to our assemblies.

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Okay. We're common law, common based. That's it. We acknowledge our creator. We acknowledge what he's laid down in terms of

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of Exodus 18 is the formation of governments

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And in the basics of how to carry out our jurisprudence

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And beyond that, we don't need all that. And that's my opinion.

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My study

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Thank you, Lisa.

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Thank you, Lisa.

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Did that help, Janice?

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Yeah, we're, I mean, it's all finding our way and finding the boundaries and

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You know, so it's just a process and yeah, it's good. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, Lisa.

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You're welcome.

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Great question. Thank you for bringing that forward.

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All right, I don't see any other hands up.

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Jason, go ahead.

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Sorry, this question's for Lisa. I am wondering how I can reach out to discuss facilitating getting the coordinator training during your training program

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Well, right now we're, we're in the right in the middle of training and Jason

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I don't do county coordination, county training at all. So if you're not a state coordinator the training is that that's for state coordinators.

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Yeah, no, this would be for state coordinator

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You would have to first be

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accepted by Anna and do a background check

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Through the Continental Marshals. So I would need that before you can move forward as a coordinator on your on your state.

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So who do I reach out to get that process going?

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Well, you would need to reach out to, and the continental marshals are not quite ready to vet to do vetting yet. So you're a little premature. They're probably not going to be ready to

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I would say at least Thanksgiving sometime around Thanksgiving, mid-November to early December. But you would want to reach out to them to get your background checks and things started and get in the queue for vetting, and then you'd want to

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conversation with Anna regarding it.

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Perfect. Thank you so much. Very helpful.

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Are you

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Okay.

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All right. Anybody else?

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Let's go to bed

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I guess we'll wrap it up. Okay

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Take the rest of the night off, I mean, from the call. We never actually check out of anything, do we? So it's like, all right, you guys, we'll see you next week

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Have a great one. Continue to share about your assembly far and wide and go ye forth and multiply. We'll see you next week.

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Thank you, Michelle

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Thank you.

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Hi there, everybody. Thank you.

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No, no

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Good night, everybody.

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Okay.

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Good work, Michelle. Thank

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Thank you, John Fernati

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Good night, everybody.

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Yahoo!

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Good night, everybody.

