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Hi, Shane. Hello, hello.

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Hi, Michelle

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Hi, thank you for being here tonight.

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Hmm…

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Hi, Michelle.

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Glad to be here

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Wait, was that Lisa? Hi, Lisa. Hi, Shannon. Hi, everybody.

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I'm going to find

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John Russell here

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Not fair now

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There's me? Where's me?

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We're all me.

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Hello

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I'm off, right?

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So Anna just called

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Oh, wait, let me

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Oh, wait.

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Oh!

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All right

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Anna just called me

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She's got a little bit of a dry

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Oh, sorry. Ahab.

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I'm sorry.

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having a terrible feedback. Sorry about that.

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Okay, sorry, I just got off the phone with Anna, and she let me know that she's got a bit of a drive, and that she may or may not make it onto the call tonight, so she's gonna try

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But we apparently have Chief Aha

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On our call tonight. I don't know if he's here just yet, but he should be joining us. We, of course, also have Shannon Bookie on the call and Anna also let me know

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Earlier today that Lisa also has some information for us tonight.

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Get started on the particulars, I do have a phone number that ends in 2172, and I just need to have you identify yourself so I can rename you. What's your name?

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Well, thank you for muting yourself. That's amazing. But I also need to know who you are.

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That's Steve Paychecks.

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Alicia, it's Steven Pichak.

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Oh, okay, Steven, you've got one on video and one on audio, is that right? Okay.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, the audio is the phone number I can move around the house while things are happening, so thank you. I yield.

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Stand multitask. Okay, no.

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All right, okay, let me just take a look and see if we have any other phone numbers or people that we don't recognize

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If you… would you like me to do the Bevins tonight again for you?

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Would love that, John Russell. You are like my Bivens King. Okay.

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I gotta be good at something once in a while. Thank you.

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It's like we either have royalty or everybody's royalty kind of thing. You know what I'm saying?

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Thank you.

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All right, bear with me, I'm just making my co-coordinator a co-host.

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I'm also going to make Lisa a co-host, Ohio

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Whoa, what is that?

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Okay

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Alrighty

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I think that's everybody. Is there anyone on the call that we don't recognize, you guys?

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And he's covered

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We

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Oh, I see that AHA won't be able to make it onto the call tonight. You just can't just talk to him earlier. And thank you.

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Absolutely

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So may I, Michelle, there's a 570798

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I'm sorry, 7938115 that needs to identify themselves.

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8115, what's your name?

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I'll let

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No

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8115.

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Wait, is that

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Stephen P.

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No, he was different number.

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Okay.

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I changed his name, so I don't see what his number was. Let's see here.

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You know what? I don't see just a number in there anymore.

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I'm going to ask him to unmute

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If you're being asked to unmute, it's you that we're talking about. So unmute

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and tell us your name, or otherwise we will have to remove you.

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And

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Hello, are you talking to 415?

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No

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No, that's got you, Carolyn

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The last four letters are

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Okay, good. Thank you.

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The last four numbers are 8115.

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I'm asking you to unmute right now.

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So if you're on your phone, you can go to the three dots. There you go. You're unmuted.

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little front on Pennsylvania

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Oh, who is that

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I'm sorry.

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Who is that?

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Rick Ride on Pennsylvania

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Oh, really

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Okay. Thank you, Rick.

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Okay. Thank you, Rick.

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Please update…

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You can go forward.

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Poor rule

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All right. We've got a live hot mic on you.

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May I

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Hi, Jeff, go ahead, Jeffrey.

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Right. Hey, I didn't get a link today to the meeting. I was wondering if something if I got fired.

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No, no, the list keeps growing. So, if anyone has not received the link

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Just let me know, what I've done for some folks who let me know that they haven't been getting the link, I took them off, and then I add in the back on

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Oh

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But I've also started another list because I think we've maxed out. Use

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a, an e-blast service. I just use a regular email, you know, email program, if you will. So I started another list

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Okay

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I yield

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I think we may have maxed out, so you're not getting the links.

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I got booted this week.

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Well, that one was intentional. Just kidding, Glenn.

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I kind of thought it was, but

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Yeah, that ain't right.

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Yes, he really is fired. Yeah

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Just kidding. We love you, Glenn.

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Did you really not get it, though?

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No, I did not

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In that case, I'm gonna… I'm gonna add you to that brand new list, because I think we've maxed out. Hold on, wrong… wrong list.

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Hold up, Glenn, quick question. How did you get fired and how can I do that?

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You have to be the coordinator for the

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Third annual All States reunion

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And what you do is you buy the two

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Host

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Tonight, you buy them special ginger ales and they fire you.

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We call that left-handed or crazy pops

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Yeah.

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May

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Thank you, Glenn.

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Okay, okay, I'm taking notes

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And make sure if you need help, Shannon, let me know. I can, I can direct you.

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May I? Mark Parker.

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Thank you, Glenn. Go ahead, Parker.

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Now, I need to change my email address because the one that goes to, I don't go there too often, so I just don't find it.

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So if we could use. Oh, I don't have it listed here. Okay. I need to be at M. Parker 897

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Okay.

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Hold on, hold on, because this is going off the internet. Okay, you don't want the whole world to get your email address. So this is what I would request that you do, is go into the chat

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And just chat me with the email address that you want on the list, okay? And I'm…

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You can just send me a chat, that way it won't end up

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You know, in a place where a bazillion people will start trying to sell you, you know, loans

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Okay.

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Michelle, John Russell

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Okay.

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Yep, who was that?

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John Russell

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Hi, John Russell.

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I sent you another email today with a different email address on it because we're having problems with me getting my invitation.

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Okay, genres

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So I sent you another email, a different address on it so you can change it over. So maybe that would cure the problem that we've been having.

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Okay, so far I've got Glenn and John Russell, and Mark is going to send me an email address. Okay.

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I'm gonna figure out how

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Thank you.

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Michelle, can you add Dennis to that list? I didn't get a link today either.

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Dennis Nil. Okay, my favorite dentist in the whole world aside from Dennis the Menace. Okay

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That's right on both of those so

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All right.

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Thanks.

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Okay

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Well, thank you to whoever made sure that you got the link so that you could be here tonight. Okay.

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All right, I think we are ready to get started. All right, today is Thursday, October 15th, 2026. This is the Countrywide Coordinator training with Anna Maria Riesinger, although I will say Anna may or may not join us

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in about an hour to an hour and 15 minutes, time will tell.

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My name is Michelle Ford. I am one of the coordinators for the California Assembly and I would like to open it up to see if there's anyone on the call tonight that would like to open us up in a prayer to bless our meeting.

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Okay, hearing none, if it's okay with you guys, without an objection, I'd like to go ahead and pray for us.

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Okay, here we go.

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Dear Heavenly Father God, Lord, first of all, I want to thank you for putting it on our hearts to assemble and to restore a lawful government

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We know that this is a very challenging task, and there are not many of us. When you look at the whole earth and all of the men and women all over the planet

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But those of us that have been called are here tonight answering that call. And we ask for your blessing. We ask that you make it possible for us to see success in our endeavor

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We ask that you bring men and women who also are called

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bring them to our various state assemblies, Lord, and or county assemblies. Help them to find us

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And answer that call as well

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We also know that not every one of us is qualified to do this.

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But you don't call on everyone that's qualified. But we know that through your supernatural abilities

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Your supernatural a gift, and grace and mercy

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That you will qualify those of us that you have called

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So I ask for your blessing tonight on every man and woman on this call and every man and woman that's going to be listening, Lord.

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May we be successful. May we be suitable

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May we be skilled

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May we complete this task that you've put on our hearts. Thank you, Lord, for every man and woman who's answered the call

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And in Jesus' name, I pray. Amen. Thank you. So be it.

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That was it

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Okay, John Russell, are you ready to do the Bivens?

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Yes, I am. This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory language in the public forum, including the chat is forbidden and shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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To eliminate all conflicts and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency at the federal, state, city, or county present?

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Do you now or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community

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Is there any response for the Bevin's decision for the first time?

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Is there any response for the second time?

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In a response the third time.

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Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or the municipal United States, anyone who is being paid, of course, to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now.

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Or lead the premises. If they subsequently show up as a federal witness, they are just credited for failure to disclose.

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Upon no response from Bevin's decision, this meeting shall now proceed.

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I yield, and I thank you

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Awesome. Thank you, John Russell.

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Okay, I'm going to read what Anna texted me a little bit ago and then we'll go ahead and open it up. I know Lisa has some information for us tonight.

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So starting with Anna, she says, I'm just now getting freed up and it's an hour and 15 minute drive, so I will be late by quite a bit

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I want everyone to know that we are making substantial headway on recovering the trust funds they call, quote, heritage accounts, quote

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and major strides forward on court corruption investigations, both traditional forms of court crimes and jurisdictional crimes.

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The lid is being pried off in Colorado this week for traditional corruption and more is to come. The entire judiciary is facing criminal charges in that state of state

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and more charges will be added

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The royal family has finally become personally aware of the hollow-crown Society and the damage this organization promoted by certain enclaves of nobility and the bar association have had in blackmailing, deceiving, traumatizing

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wrongly influencing and robbing members of that family from childhood onward.

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The tactics used against all of us, including impersonation

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False decedent waivers and claims have been used. Diverse purposes including successful campaigns to discredit Princess Diana's valid concerns and paint her as an overwrought and jealous person

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The nature of these opportunists as cruel and calculated and self-serving organized crime syndicates is finally becoming apparent.

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The members of the Privy Council are by equal measures stunned and complicit. So are the headmasters at Eaton and other major preparatory schools involved in this abuse. Sorry, the abuse.

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This is having the effect of a real wake-up call and is becoming more public by the day.

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Major figures in the Roman church who have, prior to this, refused to take action, are being forced in the face of these British revelations to reevaluate their initial disbelief and lack of concern.

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We are making history and headway

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Everyone involved here and abroad is exposing the rot and abuse and deliberate orchestrated actions to undermine and falsely advise the people entrusted to protect the people in each case

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Should feel vastly affirmed and proud of their part

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We are no longer being cast as tin hats or subversives as the Brits at the highest level are realizing that they too have been hit and targeted over the course of decades

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Billions upon billions embezzled in major institutions undermined from within

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Just like here, and using some of the very same tricks and methods, Scotland Yard, M16, or is it MI6? I'm not sure. I'll have to ask Shannon. And other agencies are on full alert

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Much new information about Princess Diana and how she was targeted to get Queen Camilla in place

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And what this has cost the public and the monarchy and the royal family, as well as numerous foreign persons and governments

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The chief handler appears to have been a banker. More about him later.

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These foreign developments that assist our cause and improve public opinion of us throughout the world have also resulted in major in major movement in the banking hierarchy to assist us.

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All this wonderful news in terms of improving our credibility and claims is coming at a time of real strain for me and the Federation, as Harold Hines has been diagnosed with cancer.

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God bless Harold

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We are, of course, doing everything we can to support him and his hour of need and still keep the rest of the operations running. Please send your prayers and good wishes for Harold

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As he has loyally assisted me in this endeavor for many years. Coordinators are called to face many challenges, not the least of which are those that come from within the budding assemblies

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Please remind those that are complaining that they have two options. One, to volunteer and join the coordinator team themselves, or two, to get their assembly up and running.

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The Federation considers this work to be extra on top of an already heavy load, so be assured that a speedy and complete restoration of all assembly functions in all 50 states is highly desired, and the reason the assemblies were summoned into session.

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Get her done, folks. Don't stand around griping or waiting. The Federation has a lot of the answers to questions you may have, and we have the research capability to deliver more when needed.

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But it is up to all of you to get along in common cause, do the work and bring home the bacon

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God bless you, and all of your efforts to restore our traditional and customary government to full function and glory. See you either later in today's broadcast or on Monday.

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So that was from Anna Maria Riesinger on a text message to me at 4:37 PM today

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So, almost exactly an hour ago

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Thank you, Anna. Hopefully, you'll be able to listen to this playback. And yeah, we definitely do have work to do. Before I hand it over to Lisa.

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I do want to remind all assemblies that none of us are a democracy.

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None of us are a democracy. What do I mean by that?

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What I mean by that is, you may have men and women dedicated, serving on committees who are bringing forth motions to your assemblies, especially in General Assembly

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Who are inviting your assembly to participate in an election of matters

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Based on simple majority, or majority rule.

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But I will tell you one thing, and I'll say it one time

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And that is, if there is a motion on the table at your assembly that barely passes

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There's something wrong with it.

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Our founding fathers of our amazing American government

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Spent weeks together.

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Not because

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They had to

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But because they knew the value of working together and making sure that every voice was heard

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They were not in a competition with one another. This was not a left versus right paradigm. This was not a simple majority paradigm or a democracy.

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It was not top down

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So

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If you have anything coming before your assembly

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And it's not passing by overwhelming support

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It should go back to committee

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It needs to be remanded right back to the committee.

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Motions like that will be reversed and shut down because this is not about a majority opinion. This is about whether or not

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emotion works for your assembly.

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And it's important because we're starting to see the wheels turning. People are doing real work on our assemblies, standing up our four pillars. And I just want all of you as coordinators of your state and or counties, right, because we also have county coordinators and county

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organizers on our call.

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Please remind your people of that fact.

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There's no rush. It's better to get it right than to hurry up and get something done that needs to get fixed later.

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Here we are 250 years into this grand experiment, having to fix stuff that went wrong.

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It didn't go wrong from the beginning.

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It went wrong. Somewhere in the middle. Okay, that means it can go wrong at any time.

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It's not too late to course correct.

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But it has to be done as a family. And remember, we're not here to win over one another. We're here to work together as a family to get the job done.

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So that's my little important talking point because the California Assembly unfortunately, is

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undergoing additional growing pains

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Because of a democracy mindset that has encroached upon our assembly once again

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But

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As coordinators, it is our role, one of our roles, not the only role, but one of our roles, is to make sure that our assembly is a lawful assembly

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And so if you see this happening on your assembly, there may be course corrections that you have to bring forth to your assembly and explain and educate

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Why we're not a democracy mindset

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If not, everybody is on board, that means not everybody got heard.

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So for people who voted no or nay on a particular motion

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Instead of being in the back celebrating that some people lost

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The question should be brought forward. How can we improve this and make it better such that your voice is also heard?

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What can we do to make sure that we don't mess up.

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Because we don't want

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future generations to have to go through this again.

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All right, we have many, many, many hands up. So I'm going to call my comments short there, but Lisa, Anna way earlier in the day, she let me know that

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Aha was going to be here and had something for us, and that you had something for us, but clearly AHA couldn't make it tonight, so I'm going to hand the microphone over to you. Is there some… I don't know what it is, okay? But you may have something for us tonight. Go ahead, Lisa

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And you're muted.

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Okay, so Anna had texted me earlier this week

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And she wanted to let everyone know that it looks like the RV or revaluation is going to go push through by the military and their rape of Zimbabwe. In case you're not familiar with Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe is an extremely rich

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African nation that has

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been basically

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overrun by the British and the Dutch

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And they have been

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set upon because of at first, because of their gold and their diamond resources.

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However, what's been discovered is they have a wealth

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Of rare earth minerals there

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So what she means by the rape of Zimbabwe, they're planning on going after all of those

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rare earth minerals that are there. And of course, the United States is going to be right in the middle of it and hired to go in there and assist

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In that as well

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So Anna says that nobody thus far has been able to talk sense into them

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So it's not a done deal, but they're still leaning towards that direction towards the overthrow of Zimbabwe

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So we need to watch the news, listen.

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speak

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All of those things

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And kind of turn our eyes. You have to turn your eyes a little bit more towards some of the European news. We get such little news here, and as Anna explained Monday night, India probably has the most open news sources

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That that we've had in many years. So, you know, if you're out picking around on the internet, go look up some some of the news in other areas of our world to look back and see what's going on, not only

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here in the United States

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But also, over in Europe and in Africa. She also says at the very last throes of the air jurisdiction are taking place now and next and between next Tuesday.

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My summation will be posted soon, so I would imagine we'll be watching for an article very soon about, the air jurisdiction as Anna spoke this evening with Michelle, wrote Michelle. You can see that there is, quite a bit of upheaval

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In

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Those kind of echelons of people, the British family, the, you know, their… their houses, their lords, their whatever, and suddenly, there's a lot that's coming to light, and that's also being backed up by the air jurisdiction.

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Air jurisdiction meaning Rome

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And the Pope and the papacy. So, you know, keep your eyes on that too. All right.

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She also announced that the house sitters… I love how she says that positive terms, but the house sitters have moved out of… out, and my house is now vacated.

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Which is the first necessary step to returning it.

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So right now, a lot of people say, well, why doesn't she just run right over there and go in and take it over or go look at the damage?

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Anna is waiting for, you know, as she was removed by the state troopers

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By the state, okay? And they're going to try to push this off on the municipality of Big Lake, Alaska

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Not on the county

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Not… not on the state, and it was the state that pushed her out.

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And so Anna is trying to make sure that the state

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continues to be engaged and responsible for the damage and the loss of her goods in the house if things are missing, which she's pretty certain they are

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And she wants to be escorted into the house.

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So that there's not just

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There's not just her or her and Shannon. There's only one side of this whole debacle that she's gone through that there is also verification from the state troopers as well escorting her in

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So that's kind of what she's waiting for. There's a little bit of wrangling going back and forth. Oh, we don't have to. Yes, you do. No, we don't. Yes, we do kind of fight. So

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But her house has been vacated, and hopefully Anna's looking to, you know, maybe if things can get moving, maybe she'll be back in early November

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And possibly before Thanksgiving

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She says they have a major suit against child protective services

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And the banks coming to fruition

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Proceedings may last into next week, so we'll probably be next Thursday before we can report on that. Of course, if she doesn't make it, you know, it'll be next Thursday. I don't know any more information than that or details.

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But, and I don't know if Shannon knows details he wants to speak to, but evidently they're going after CPS for different things

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knit and need to

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So she also says that there are three quarters done with an illustrated slideshow presentation of the great fraud for distribution worldwide.

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So evidently, this is going to be a really great presentation on what the fraud has been against all of us. It'll be a good education piece that we can show for education are our assemblies.

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As well as do the outreach with it, in our areas.

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So she says that between the air jurisdiction being settled next week and the court cases finishing and the slideshow all being complete.

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It feels like the ending of a whole phase and the beginning of another.

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So we're on the cusp of some new territory as far as Anna is concerned. And, you know, hopefully she'll be able to drive and get home safely enough to to get on the call early

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I just want to say that with Continental Marshals, I've been working with

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Chief Alba

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Everybody likes his acronyms, AHA, but his his actual name is Alba

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And

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We have been working on trying to get kind of an inventory of what we need, who we need. You know, what's what's next. I'll be placing another order very shortly

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for additional continental Marshall stars for the new area marshals, as well as for Chief Alba's star

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And the commissioning or the posting documents

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have been merged and are ready to go, so they just have to be printed in Alaska and sent to the mailing list of all the marshals. We're boiling everything down to kind of

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A conclusion to get the service started. And are very excited to do that.

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So lots of things going on, working on things, got lots of things happening and that's pretty much it. That's all I know

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Wow, well, what a blessing that she got access to her, well, she got her property back and the people have vacated. Is that the right word?

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Thank you, Lisa, for that incredible report. And we will look forward to hearing from Chief Alba Aha. Okay. In the future, hopefully he'll be able to make it to one of our meetings really soon

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And wow, great report. Thank you, Lisa. I'm glad that Anna gave you all of that for all of us.

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And one more thing, Michelle, I know even though Chief Alba isn't here yet and isn't with us, very shortly they will be starting to get back up vetting and background checks. So please be a patient another week or so

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Maybe, and I think you're going to start to see them open that back up and get that back rolling again into that program. So they're not unfamiliar with it. It's just that they've had some challenges in some of the resources, and they're getting that all back together again, and we'll be rolling it out very shortly.

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Okay

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Awesome. Will it be the same

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You know, will it be the same website that they had before or is it going to be like all new? Do you know?

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I think they've been working on a website. So I think

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I think it's gonna be highly revised, let's put it that way.

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Okay.

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Okay. All right, well, whatever it is, we definitely need that vetting and that ability to submit those requests.

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Yeah

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During the next map

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Okay. And if you've had a request in and it hasn't been, it wasn't serviced

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You can you can contact

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Chief Alba, he will make sure that the Continental marshals that are kind of in charge of forming those programs for appropriate things, whether that's martial at arms or it's

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Coordinator vetting that they'll get back to you as soon as they have everything up and rolling

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Okay.

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Awesome.

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It's very helpful to have an old report number or an account number that they had before.

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Okay.

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All right, I yield.

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All right. Thank you, Lisa. Very helpful report.

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We do have a lot of hands up tonight, and so, I don't want to make any presumptions. I know that most people come to tonight's call because they have questions specifically for Anna, but as we know, Anna is not on the call yet tonight, and

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if she shows up, it may very well be, after… after, you know, 6.15 or so Pacific time. If she shows up, we'll see

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But of the hands that are up, is there anybody that has a general question, something that we can explore on the call tonight before Anna gets here?

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How can we best be of service?

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Michelle, this is Nancy on Texas.

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Hey, hi, Nancy.

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Hi, good, how are you?

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I just have how you doing? I just have a couple comments. So

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As everybody knows, Texas is building an LRO

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Okay? It is not private

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It is shared with all the assemblies for free

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But here's the catch

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You must have your own IT

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professionals to do the work

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We will just

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Sign a treaty and give you the source code

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You have to have your own hardware. It is a lot of work. It is not private. It is just for your assembly. And it combines

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The business

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If you think about, it's not in competition to or with

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The TASA LRO. That's a land recording office. We are building the whole thing. You've got a place to keep all of your records, your Library of Congress. We're starting on building the courts, we've already worked with building the jury pool and how that is going to be pulled from

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The people and I just want everybody to know, you know, after that, after the courts are all built out, then we'll move on to the militia

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All of this is being worked on by the several States

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that have signed a treaty with Texas with all these it professionals.

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So it, no, it is not private. And if you do have an IT team and you do want to look at it, we'll be more than happy to go through it with you. But we do not have on Texas

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The ability to

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load your data onto our servers. We are not sharing any data, only source code, right? So you have to have your own servers, and you have to have your own fiber, and all of the things that go with that

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So I just want to make sure that everybody knew that

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Several states have come together with many good IT people who are putting this together. And the more that we have, the better it's going to get

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And the more round it's going to be right. It's going to touch every single aspect of the business of your government

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So I just want to let everybody know that the land recording office, the TASA land recording office is still a place to go and publish your documents. But this is for your assembly to keep its records

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Instead of each individual man and woman who's doing the work, keep those records in their home and on their computers. It gets loaded to one place, so it stays with the assembly. So I just wanted to make that clear, and

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If anybody's interested that has an IT team

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They are more than welcome to contact me at Nancy

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Dashlynn.brainerd at the TexasAssembly.com, or Brainerdnancy at gmail.com. Everybody knows that. And

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I just want to thank you for your time

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Thank you.

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So may I, Nancy

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Oh, really quick

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Yes, please.

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Hold on

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Real quick, I also want to make sure that everyone knows that that

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The when you when this

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LRO is meant

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For your state to start to form as its state and its own authority.

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The TASA LRO was, as Anna stated

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Was a quick fix solution to put a land recording office

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On the states

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At the time so that you had a place to record and publish.

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And until your state was ready to put up their own LRO.

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And that's what what Texas, Ohio, several other States have been working on intensely for the last 2 and a half years. But it's been a concept that's been coming for 3 to 3 and a half years

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And it's really more of an assembly system than it is just an LRO.

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And your records will be publicly viewable with a link.

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So a QR code or a link into the system. So there is nothing

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going to be private on this system that shouldn't be private. The only thing that we wouldn't make public would be your birth certificates and your baby deeds

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So anything else can be marked public on this system.

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And so, you know, it's there's there's been some rumors out there, and that's why Nancy's speaking to that. And people claiming that we're a private system. We're not

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And we're very welcome to share, but this is not an out-of-the-box solution.

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It isn't like a piece of software you can just download and bingo, you're flying off in your own state. It takes quite a bit, okay? So it's not an out of box solution. And that's why it takes having your own IT people

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To be able to work with and work through setting up the server and all the various pieces of software that have to work together. And coordinate together as well as setting up the system internally.

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Okay?

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So I see you talk

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Because I know we have another hand up for Utah, so we're going to go to Utah next, Deanne, see your hand, but

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Lisa, can you clarify? Because I'm now I'm confused. And if I'm confused, maybe others are also confused, because

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Okay.

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Right.

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Nancy is on Texas, speaking about Texas LRO. You're on Ohio, and you're commenting about a diff… maybe it's the same LRO

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No, it's the same. It's the same. So Texas and Ohio originally collaborated together. So it's been a, this has been a collaboration that was originally started by us.

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And right now we've got about 10 other states

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that are working with or working towards putting in this system

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And initiating their own LRO.

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They feel their states are settled enough to be able to have their own state LRO. They can afford it.

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They can afford the server, doesn't take a big server. But the internet service

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monthly, some for some assemblies might not be possible.

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So all of these things are are openly discussed in our meetings. And again, if you have, if your State has an interest, you can get a hold of Nancy.

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But dammit

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And they're happy. They're happy to give a demonstration of what we're doing. If you're interested in it, and

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And they're, you know, if you're trying to find out and get a little more acclimated to it, and you're serious about it, then our Wednesday evening IT meetings are open to those assemblies that are looking, are seeking our system

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And I'm eventually going to install that system. And then that way they can get familiar with the people, the resources. There's plenty of discussion and assistance.

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But we can't do it for the world. They have to be able to do it for themselves.

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Okay, thank you, Lisa, for helping to clarify that. I hope that that helped other people as well, because I know I was confused when we went from Texas to Ohio and you were talking about basically the same thing.

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So we understand that

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Before we move on to the hand to Deanne's hand, who was doing a waving on the screen. Does anybody have any questions on this particular topic for Nancy or for Lisa in regard to state specific LRO

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Okay, I don't hear anyone or see anyone. So, okay, go ahead, Deanne, you have

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Actually, may I… this is Julie, sorry.

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I had

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Julie, is it on this topic regarding… Okay, go ahead. Yeah

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Yes, yes. Sorry, I had to take my gardening gloves off. They don't work on my screen on my phone, so sorry about that. Yeah, in Washington, we're having unseasonably nice weather, so lo and behold, the flowers are still blooming

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Okay, right?

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Welcome to… Okay.

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I just wanted to say that the information that I have

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received regarding the TASA LRO is that the design and purpose was so that when states are ready to

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Be fully functioning and independent

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that they can decouple their information from the TASA LRO and then begin running independently without that. So it is not a quick fix. It is actually an excellent source

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to be hosting your information. And I just wanted to clarify that, because it seems to be getting a bad rap for some reason

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But it actually has really great features and high security. So anyway, I will yield with that, and maybe we need to ask someone to give us some more information that has more information about that system

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Thank you. I yield.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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May I respond, Michelle, this is Nancy. So Julia

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Julie, we have contacted the Federation IT, and I do believe our chairman is working on that

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And, I think you're correct in saying, you know, we can decouple

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And bring all of that information, but I don't think that we really want to decouple. I think we could use both systems

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Until such a time that, we are ready to, or even just go to public elections, right? So when we're fully standing

00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.000
I yield. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you, Nancy.

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.000
And

00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:46.000
Michelle, this is Michael on Ohio. I have a general question. Can I ask it now or

00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.000
Well, we had another hand up before you, Michael.

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Oh, okay, I'm sorry, I'll yield. Go right ahead.

00:47:51.000 --> 00:48:01.000
That's okay. We had Dan on Utah, but I want to make sure we're done with this LRO topic before we move on to Deanne's question or comment.

00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:11.000
Any other questions or comments regarding the LRO conversation

00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:18.000
Okay, as long as we have no one else with gardening gloves on, we'll go ahead and move on to Deanne. Go ahead, Deanne.

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:31.000
So a couple of weeks ago, I spoke to Anna and everybody on the Thursday call, letting people know that, of course, we had problems with some people in Utah

00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:40.000
and asked that if they reached out to anybody, any other coordinator in any other state, that it would be bad if they did

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:50.000
And yet, a Coordinator from another state reached out to them and told them exactly how to build another assembly.

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:57.000
Basically told them how to build a county assembly

00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:01.000
And they said that it was a coordinator from Nevada

00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.000
I'm thinking it was Rocky

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:10.000
Okay, that's just me saying, but I'm not sure, but they said that they've had

00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:26.000
talks with this person, and this person has told them exactly how to go about building a county assembly. Now they've gone ahead and started building this and there is no coordinator that has been made a coordinator over this

00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.000
Over this county

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So I'm just kind of letting the Federation know that I'm pretty upset that there is a coordinator that was on this call, heard the whole thing, and then went and helped these people that we already know

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.000
We're not supposed to be doing this.

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:56.000
So Rocky, I don't know, I see your face now. Did you talk to some people on Utah about how to build a county

00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:01.000
I, I was having the county training, but

00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.000
At no time did I ever say anything about

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.000
Doing anything against the state.

00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.000
Only on what they need to do to build accounting. That was that

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:18.000
Because we all need to get our counties going up and running, right? So

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:25.000
They wanted to know how to do that, and it's not much different than building the state one. You have the same kind of pillars and

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.000
You know, except for you have a sheriff and you have

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.000
You know, you still have your

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.000
Your juroral assembly, your

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:43.000
Militia assembly. You still have all of those in your county, but it's not in conflict with anything else, not with no state or anything else.

00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.000
So I don't know what you what you heard or not heard right?

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:58.000
Well, it is when these are people that are going exactly opposite of what our state has filled out. What's been going on with our state and when it was exactly addressed in this meeting

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:12.000
And it was talked about that there was a problem with these people, and then they came directly to you, and then you talked to them about how to build something. And now they think that it's okay for all of them to go ahead and build this.

00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:19.000
So now there's a problem in Utah and it's been made worse. So I do have an issue with it.

00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.000
So what is the problem? Because they are allowed to build their counties

00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:39.000
So now we have this whole group that we've had nepotism. We've had they're all against me as a coordinator and now they're all going to be in one county building something against everything that's been built in Utah

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:51.000
They even asked for an invitation to this. They went behind and went and asked for an invitation. And now they're trying to tear everything down.

00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:55.000
So

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There's no reason for them to not

00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:04.000
respect what you're doing and you as a coordinator and what you're doing as a state

00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:16.000
Assembly, right? But all the counties need to start building their counties. But they need not to be fighting. You're supposed to be actually working together with our states.

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:21.000
You know what I'm saying? So I don't understand what they're doing or not doing. I mean.

00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:28.000
Maybe I can get in contact with them, or if you could tell me who it is that I can contact

00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.000
And figure out what they're doing, but

00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:35.000
there shouldn't be any conflict with you and them. I just don't understand.

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.000
Go ahead.

00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.000
So, so may I real quick

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.000
Yes, Lisa

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So I would suggest that maybe, Rocky, you and Deanne, private

00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:50.000
Chat with each other a little bit, and that way you can Deanne can be a little more candid.

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:59.000
About what it is, but, you know, I kind of, and many of you have experienced it, if I get questions

00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.000
If anybody from an assembly writes me

00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:10.000
I usually turn around and I either will copy their coordinator

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.000
On the answer. So the coordinator sees what's going on

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:22.000
Or I will contact the coordinator right away and see, you know, if there is a backstory.

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.000
Because unfortunately

00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:42.000
Not everybody that maybe even is on this call follows the founding principles of the integrity and honor and honesty and all of those things. And they go behind their coordinator's backs

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:48.000
And their assembly's backs when they don't get the answers that they want on their assemblies.

00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.000
And it creates great conflict

00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.000
And a lot of upheaval

00:53:53.000 --> 00:54:05.000
And the states are, you know, as the states are trying to build, having that upheaval and those counties or those coordinator those people going off and coordinating in a corner somewhere

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:22.000
Is… is detrimental to the states. Many of the states have experienced that, and it fractions. And so we have to be really careful and responsible when we're coordinators to make sure that we've got those open communications that we're not taking somebody who is

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.000
Is

00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:37.000
In some way, being dissident on their assemblies. And then turning around and creating more issues for either the state assemblies or the county assemblies.

00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:50.000
So, you know, it's about the fractions that are happening. And look, you guys, Anna is really frustrated with the fighting

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:51.000
Oh, we all are.

00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.000
With the backstabbing that's going on

00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:54.000
Yeah, we all are.

00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:00.000
And, and

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.000
No, I

00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.000
If you think that the people that are sitting right here are bad people, you have met bad people yet

00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.000
True.

00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:08.000
I can guarantee you there's extra nasties out there that you can't even imagine.

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:16.000
So, you know, come on, people work with your state assembly, get your state assemblies up.

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.000
Turn around and start working on getting your counties

00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:30.000
And getting familiar with your county people and starting to do the education on the counties that you're going to need when you get ready to assemble that county.

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.000
But your state is most important

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And I would say there is no reason for anyone in my state to reach out to another state to get trained on building accounting.

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:54.000
I'm sorry, but anybody that reaches out to another state right now, there is no reason for them to get advice from another state on how to build a county in another state

00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.000
So if somebody is reaching out to your state, it is because they're not getting the answers that they want

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:01.000
It's just not right.

00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:07.000
They wasn't reaching out. They wasn't reaching out to our state for down to build a county. I was

00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:16.000
Promoted by Anna to do a state or a county

00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:17.000
Hold on.

00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:18.000
Countrywide training for other counties. And that's what I was

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.000
Well, then I think it's wrong. I think Anna should shut it down. I yield

00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:29.000
Well, it's I already shut it down so it doesn't matter. But if you want to talk to me off this, I would

00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:39.000
Be welcome to do that, and we can discuss, and then I can talk to them and figure out what's going on. But there shouldn't be any conflicts between you and what a county's doing.

00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.000
Two different jurisdictions, two different things.

00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:48.000
They shouldn't be conflicting with the state at all

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.000
So if you want to contact me, please. I'll

00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:57.000
So I see your name. I can put my email address in the

00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:06.000
chat here for you, and then we can sit off

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.000
Right.

00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:14.000
Or just go up to the chat, go up to the chat and type new chat. And you put Deanne's name in there. Or the Utah Assembly in there and you can private message back and forth and trade emails and phone numbers or whatever you need to do

00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.000
Okay

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:20.000
Yeah, I don't want to conflict with any state. That's not the point of doing this.

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:24.000
Right. And so, you know, I would just

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:39.000
tell everyone and make sure that you all realize that we're here to be professional too, right? And and that's just a professional courtesy

00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:57.000
At a level of administration, maybe some people are not used to. But that's what you should be doing. Okay, so that there's no backdoors. There's no backhanded communications. There's none of that, you know, griping in the background. It goes right straight through to the coordinators

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.000
And it can be addressed

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:06.000
Period. Put it to rest.

00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:07.000
All right.

00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:21.000
Yeah, and if I could chime in, because I think that this is a microcosm of a bigger problem that I think other it's not unique. It's not unique to Utah and Rocky, I hope you're not taking it personally

00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.000
No, I'm not. But I'd like to fix it if I can.

00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:41.000
Yes, for sure. The fact of the matter is, is I think that there is it still permeates our assemblies. That there is a concern that the state has some sort of overreaching authority over the counties

00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:53.000
Or vice versa, that the counties have some sort of overarching authority over the state. But Rocky, you brought up a very important point, and that is that these are two different jurisdictions.

00:58:53.000 --> 00:59:08.000
Where it gets confusing, I think, for people, is that they have an obligation if they're participating in the assemblies in their assembly, they have multiple assemblies. They have the assembly where they live

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:24.000
On their county. But yet they also live on a state. So they may wish to participate at the state level. But because we are not a top-down paradigm, the state has no overarching authority over

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.000
The county

00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:27.000
Correct.

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And, by the way, there's nobody on any county that has any authority over anyone else.

00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:34.000
True, too.

00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:39.000
So an assembly establishes rules and regul, you know

00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.000
Procedures

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Those procedures apply to the volunteers.

00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.000
Man and woman

00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.000
are inherently free

00:59:53.000 --> 01:00:00.000
And oh, no obligation to their assembly whatsoever. Period. End of story.

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:13.000
So anyone that's going to participate, whether they're participating at the county or they're participating at the state, they don't answer to either one unless they've selected the opportunity to serve.

01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:14.000
Correct

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.000
If they serve on their county, let's say they serve as a

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:33.000
I don't know. They're a county treasurer. Let's say. And the people of that county have elected them, and they're serving in the capacity of the treasurer of that county. Well, then, by golly, they better do the best darn job of county treasurer

01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:37.000
that ever lived because they signed up for that.

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:38.000
Right

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And they serve the people

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Of that county

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Right.

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But if county assembly establishes rules

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And procedures

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Those rules and procedures are applied to the functioning of the local government

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So if you develop, you know.

01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:03.000
decor… let's say a decorum agreement.

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:09.000
Okay. which is important. You got to be able to have a fully functional meeting

01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:14.000
Of your local government or your state government, you may have rules of decorum.

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Those rules of decorum apply to that meeting. Okay.

01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.000
Exactly.

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Once that meeting is over

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You know, you take the hat off of, you know, you're not, you can go ahead and you can curse the sky if you want.

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You can pound the pillow and you can have a rant and you can do whatever you got to do, okay? But when you're on that meeting, you're agreeing to the rules of decorum of your meeting for that jurisdiction, whether it's the state or the county.

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Right

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But there is no overlord

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No, that

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Again, everybody that

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Who's all in charge is all the people. Everybody raise your hand because you're in charge. If you're in the meetings, you're in charge too. You're the ones that help make the assembly, whatever it is. If it's a county assembly, then you're working on that county. If you take that hat out and I put my state hat on

01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:25.000
That I'm working in the state one, and I need to work on whatever it is the state's doing, and I don't need to talk about what the county's doing. And again, when you're in your county when you're not, you know, discussing county estate stuff because it has nothing to do with the state. It has to do with the people in your county only

01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:34.000
Right? So that's my training. And when I started off the training, it started off with the first thing is communication.

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We have to learn to communicate with each other

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Right? And that's… I… basically, I have this house, and all around it is communication, and the inside the house is us, right? So we have to talk with everybody going outside that house and in that house. And if you don't have the communication, none of this is going to work. We're all just going to fight

01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:01.000
And we need to stop all of the fighting and start communicating with each other and put our differences aside. You know what I'm saying?

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.000
And like I said, I mean, I'm looking here, I can't find

01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:11.000
the ants, whatever, but if she can find me, she can send me a link and I can email her. But

01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:17.000
I will talk with anybody, because that's our biggest deal, is our communication. If we can't talk together

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We're doing the wrong things here

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You know what I mean? So, you know.

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Michelle, you're 100% right on everything you said. And, you know, we all need to work together and we're all bambling here

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And we all need to love each other. you know, and stop the fighting.

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You know, it's, I don't understand what's going on, but, you know, if it's something I said or whatever, I'll fix it.

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Anyway, but I'll yield

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Thank you.

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Awesome. Thank you

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find question about this topic, if you don't mind

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Yep, wait, but I can't see who that is.

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Good day, Maria, Michigan

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Oh, go ahead, Renee Marie. Hi, Renee Marie.

01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:02.000
Hi, I don't want to lose my hand. Sometimes it lowers or whatever, but in my spot. Anyway.

01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:14.000
Someone had mentioned, and I don't know if they learned this on Rocky, so maybe he can answer, that if someone builds the county and they get the county standing and they claim ex parte milligan, it applies to the whole state. Is that true?

01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.000
No.

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Only applies to your county

01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.000
Thank you. Thank you, Ay

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Well, and in reality, let's just extend it a little bit further. Without your state assembly being fully stood, you have no county on top of a state. You need to stand up your state.

01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.000
But the fact of the matter is, is

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Even though the state has no authority over the county

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You've got to have the foundation laid. Think of it like a house. You can't build a house. If the house is your county government, okay, you can't build a house unless there's a foundation there

01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:00.000
The foundation is the state, so you've got to have your foundation up in order that your counties will have standing

01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:12.000
Now, with that being said, our states have concurrent general. Wait, what is it concurrent general jurisdiction. It's concurrent, what's the word I'm looking for, Lisa?

01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.000
It's general concurrent, superior jurisdiction

01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:31.000
Thank you. General concurrent superior jurisdiction. That's the word superior. So what that means is, you know, when we're all fully stood and our counties are stood and fully functional, they have the utmost authority on their local matters

01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:32.000
What does that mean?

01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:38.000
Okay, that means if the state wants to come in and put in

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I don't know, roadway. Okay. The county can say

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Yep.

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Go around. Okay. Go around. We're not letting you put that right through here.

01:05:52.000 --> 01:06:08.000
And it's the same thing too, Michelle, is like the county, because we're soil jurisdiction and your union state is soil jurisdiction, we can't do anything international. So we need the state. We need the state of the Union to do our international business for us

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:09.000
Alright.

01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:23.000
Right? And and the deal is, is that's why we all have to work together, because there's different pieces that we're building from our towns to our counties, to our union state, to our state of the Union. And all of those pieces need to be in place at one time

01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:34.000
You know, we'll get to that point when we get the people to do it, but there shouldn't be any fighting. We should all be working together. And just like Anna says, she's told me many times on this call, it's all the same people.

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We're all the same people that's working in every one of those jurisdictions

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Right

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That's where it gets complicated, right? People are on a county call having their county meeting, and then they get off and, you know, on Wednesday, they're on their state call, and then they kind of forget what jurisdiction they're working on when they're on a state call versus a county call

01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:54.000
Right.

01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:10.000
Vice versa. They might bring state business to a county meeting or to a county committee meeting or to a state committee meeting. So we are, you know, we're on a slim pickings when it comes to our current amount of active volunteers

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And I think that it's when people leave assemblies, they

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Mostly leave out of frustration, either because there's no progress, or because there's so much chaos and confusion, they don't know what language they're speaking from one call to the next.

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It's like, it almost seems like when you hop on a committee call, it needs to be plainly and clearly stated. This is a state level call or

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This is a county level call, right? It should be obvious, but as new people are coming onto our assemblies, those line items should be

01:07:49.000 --> 01:08:01.000
you know, made clear so that the distinctions start becoming, you know, ingrained in the vernacular. When you're having a conversation about state, it should be clear that it's state

01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:09.000
When you're having a conversation about county, it should be clear that it's county. And then it can get even more confusing. Let's say you're on one of the Great Lakes

01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:18.000
Or you're on a river that passes through multiple states, that's an inland navigable waterway. Now you're talking about international.

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:30.000
Not only are you talking about international, but you may actually have to interface with the federal subcontractors. You may have to invite and train people on your state and on your county

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Okay, because there may be matters that end up resulting in, hey, we want to put a bridge, or hey, we need a bike path

01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:43.000
you know, or whatever, and then you're going to be dealing with subcontractors

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Say like if it's an interstate. That's basically federal. I mean, it's And your state has to deal with that, but it's in your counties get involved too to say. You know, if it's going to involve their county to put that interstate through.

01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:08.000
Yep.

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:09.000
You know, they got a vote on it, too, to say, yeah, we agree with it, and this is what we're willing to give up on land and whatever. And, you know, everybody, like I said, all of us has got to work together on this. And this is not

01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:21.000
you know, one person does all… the deal is, is we're coming off of a system that we're all messed up already. And that was the reason why I talked to Anna about doing the county training

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So that we could

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Get people to learn. They train them on what it is that we're really doing, right, as a county, and not… and help their states if they can, right? Don't fight with them, but help them, right? Because we need them too. The counties need them as much as

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Yep.

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you know, the state needs us, right? You know, it's like you can't have the right hand without the left hand. You need both, right? So anyway, it's I

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I don't want to make this into a county thing, but you know, thanks for letting me talk and whatever, but I'll yield. But

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Thank you.

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All right, thank you, Rocky, and thank you, Deanne. This is an important topic, and I think it's important, you know, it's just important for everybody to do their studying and make sure that you're, you know, growing in your competency

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in relation to these different jurisdictions. It's super important. And I think when you go back to the root cause of misunderstandings or disagreements, it almost always, almost always results in, you know, that the common denominator is a lack of

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comprehension of jurisdiction and who has the responsibility to deal with which matters.

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So, you know, more and more clarity and education on those things would be very helpful.

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All right, now I don't see Anna is on the call just yet. Now, there may be other hands up for conversations or topics, questions that don't necessarily need Anna. Marianne, I see you waving your hand. Go ahead and unmute.

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Well, I'd really like to hear from Anna, but you're a coordinator too, and you know Rocky's over there as a coordinator. So there there is a confusion here

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Right

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We have the paperwork situated. You know, anybody only needs a 1779 and two witnesses to come home. Obviously, with an ID, you know, to show they are with an address and their birth certificate.

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Now, the question was earlier in the year when I asked about this

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Anna answered it and Lisa did at that time, but I followed up with that later, and John Farinacci helped me with you on your answer to it, because my concern was if that's all that the men and women are doing when they come home

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The state of states that both of those in DC and on whatever state they're domiciled on, they don't know. So the DOPS would be absolutely necessary, what I thought

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John Ferrarinacci followed that up and said, Yes, that is what you recommend. And yeah, we need that. So we've got that part. The latest problem here has been about the notary.

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Now, my understanding, and you correct me if I'm wrong

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when they're… that they are allowed to use a state of state notary, as long as they use the correct notary block, if they so choose. If they don't, or if they use that

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Then all that a coordinator or a recording secretary needs to do is confirm the paperwork is accurate, do their little autograph on it, sticker stamp it, and so they can go on the LRO.

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Now, if they choose not to do that, then they need to make a Zoom meeting or come in person, whatever's workable in that state, either with the recording secretary or the coordinator and they you know that that will be on the Zoom and they can witness their autograph being done right then and there

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For the paperwork, then they would mail that paperwork to the recording secretary or the coordinator, who's ever handling that, and then they would do their autographing, put the sticker stamp on it, send the con… or send the originals back to the man or woman

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Is that all correct or no? And then part two of that is, does anybody need to be turning around, standing around shouldering their butt, reciting anything of any documents?

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Okay, so number one, yes, that is

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Can I answer that, Michelle?

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Sure, yeah, go ahead, Lisa.

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Hold on, hold on, Lisa, hold on, Lisa, please. I've gotten your answer already, but please, I want to hear Ms. Jose, if you don't mind. Michelle's and Rocky, if you don't mind, please.

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Okay, yeah, so

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Well, Rod. Rocky can't answer that, but go ahead.

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Having a 1779 document with the appropriate witnesses, whether that's a state of state notary or a recording secretary and proper publishing, that's what's needed. That just, but by the way, that just brings you home to the land. I think many, many people have learned that once you're on the land

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There's a lot of other stuff you should really

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All right, right.

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You know, you gotta get into the nitty gritty about properly and lawfully terminating contracts that you don't want to be in anymore. And it ends up being somewhat of a rabbit hole. So you do it one little bite at a time, and sometimes

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Right. I mean, we can suggest I didn't mean to interrupt you. We can suggest, you know, there's other 928s. I always advocate for that because it's more skin in the game, how I call it. And always says, you know, there's pick and choose, and we know that and that's what you're trying to say. There's other documents

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My concern is about specifically with the notary state of state, notary public

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Yep.

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Witnessing those documents and they being good as they are. No matter what state, no matter what state, if it's a state of state notary. For instance, Illinois state of state

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notary public witnessed an Indianan, or vice versa, or somebody on Ohio, you know, any of that. Bottom line is, if a state of state witnesses these documents, are they good like that to be approved by a state coordinator or a recording secretary

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Absolutely

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And if not

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There's only two documents, Marianne, that really need to be done by a recording secretary on your state because they need the state

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Embossed seal on them. And that's the declaration of political status that gets a gold seal embossed by your state assembly

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And the common carry declaration, which is a silver seal

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That also gets embossed with the with the state seal. Everything else is fine for a notary public to witness. But those two documents are particular to state authority.

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Particular.

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to our jurisdiction

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Why? Why can't

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Okay, so those two documents, those two documents need to be done by a state recording secretary.

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Yeah, and that's after status correction, right? So status is your 1779 and year two witness testimonies. Those are perfectly fine. Whether it's a state of state notary or it's a recording secretary. Lisa is specifically referring to the Declaration of political status and there's the common carry

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These are documents that end up getting sent off to the de facto Secretary of State, Federal Secretary of State

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For the Declaration of political status. And by the way, you should have multiple originals because you may end up needing it for other other matters. I recommend that when someone's going to do a

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Declaration of political status while you're at it, get, like, 5. Because there are some, places that require an original, and if you give up your one and only original

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You know, it's like a, it's like a

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I don't know if anyone's gone through someone that they loved or that they were close to that died

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Right? And then you have to go handle their matters

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All of these organizations, their bank, their whatever, their tax professional, there are several agencies that require an original embossed

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birth certificate

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Or, I'm sorry, death certificate.

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And so sometimes you need that when dealing with state of state

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As it relates to your declaration of political status. So Lisa's correct. But remember, that document is after status correction because to get status corrected and get on the land, you just need that 1779 and two witness testimonies

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Okay, well, I recognize that, but that's when I was asking and I had mentioned how that it is necessary the DOPS is. And yes, I'm like you, I like all originals. That's what I recommend anybody get the originals because that goes directly to the states of states. They don't know it. And since we're literally letting them know our standing

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My original wet ink, wet ink signature, you know, our autographs

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But you said you first said no, that the paperwork was fine, but now you're saying that no lease is right on the DOPS. And then, of course, they would be adding the common carry.

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But my thing is, even when it's notarized, it's a matter of just somebody witness, and why can't the coordinators or the recording secretaries? Because if this is the case, Lisa, and honey, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this. We have many people that are coming home, and their paperwork's been done then. I mean, done wrong

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I mean, this has been a situation that I'm just trying to get it corrected. So all 50 states of the Union are doing the same thing.

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So you can't you cannot we cannot reseal a document that the state has already that the state of state has sealed.

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They can't have two seals on them

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Oh my God.

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We can put a publishing sticker on it.

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And we can publish it

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But we can't reseal a document

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Yeah, you can't re-witness something that was witnessed

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Correct.

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Correct.

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That's okay. You just said it, you said it. It is this sticker. It's the embossed sticker

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That can be done so that it is approved.

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No, not when the notary, not when a state estate notary has put their seal on it. No.

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Absolutely not.

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Well, we've got we've got a mess across all 50 nation states then

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Well, hold on

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No, it's all been trained that way.

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If I

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If I can

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They've all been trained that way. Well, not all of them, maybe, but they have been trained that way, Marianne

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And Anna has reminded us it boils down to intent. So let's say you've got someone that went to a state of state notary with their 1779 and two witness testimonies and they had that state of state notary witness the autograph

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And then now they go to a recording secretary who's going to publish the documents

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I mean, is it going to be rejected because they put your state seal on the document before uploading it? No, of course not.

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We're going to recognize the intent that you, you know, the man or woman intended to be published on their state

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But the witness, I think what where it's getting confusing is whoever witnessed

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The autograph

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That can only be done once. You can only, you know, only

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All right

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one man or one woman, whether they're a state of state notary or a recording secretary

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Only they can or in some cases, a coordinator that is doing recordings for their state assembly or their county assembly.

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You can only… there's only one official witness that does their stamping and autographing that they are signing, you know, they are the witness.

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Agreed, agreed. It's just a matter of approving it. That they intent was there. They took care of the paperwork. They got a proper witness. Even though it's state of state, they hold water because we make them a public notary. You know, as the living man or woman

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That intent is there to do that right. They got their witness, you know, they're done. So a coordinator or the recording secretary is approving that the paperwork was it's all done correctly. That's what I'm saying. It's approved and it should be allowed to be entered then on the LRO

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When you're putting on like Lisa, no, we're not going to add a seal, but we would add the embossed sticker to show that it's been approved by either the coordinator or the recording secretary

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Oh.

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No, no, that embossed seal goes instead of the notary seal

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And that seal is that would be double sealing a document, Marianne.

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No.

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Okay, okay. No, that's what I'm trying to that's what I'm listening to you and I'm understanding it that way. I'm confirming that because we have many people, and I'm saying many

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Across… I can't say all 50 nation states, because I haven't been on all of them, but I've been on many of them. And we have people that that has been done. They got all their documents. These are ones that even got all 928s

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And got them all done by the states of states. Some of them got it done notarized on another state that they're not domiciled on. And that was all approved. We've had other ones that got all their 928s and the 1779 everything DOPS all by the state of state

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And the Coordinator or recording secretary, all they did was autograph it under that on their own and add whatever those sticker steal, whatever they were doing and put them on the LRO.

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So that's something that we have to clear up so it gets done right. That's all I'm saying, Lisa. I'm just trying to make that straight, honey, so it's all across the board for all of us.

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I mean, we obviously want to be doing things right, correct?

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Well, yes

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Are you a reporting secretary, Marianne?

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No

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Okay.

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But when there's issues in that, people bring things forth to me. And I made it a point to, you know, ask questions and learn. Either from you guys that are coordinators, chairmen, whenever you've been on visiting and putting out information

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Some assembly required, you know, just learning. And I asked Anne on the beginning of the year. And I've recently asked other coordinator or not a coordinator's recording secretaries, excuse me. And that's the answer that I got that no, that paperwork is fine when it's a state of state

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It is fine. If a state of state notary public

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Witnesses the autograph, it's fine.

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Yeah.

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It's

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For all documents, you know, you just said no because Lisa says no, not the declaration of political status or the common carry.

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Still needs to get the landing documents

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Still need to get published by a recording secretary.

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Can I can I say something here?

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Yeah, let me finish my sentence, please, Rocky.

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That's fine.

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And I also see that Rebecca has her hand up and wants to chime in, and I saw her hand before I heard you, Rocky.

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A state of think of it like this, Marianne. And by the way, even though you're not a recording secretary nor you may not want to be a recording secretary, you may want to sit in on a recording secretary training just so that you get all of the

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You know, line, you know, the details all you can be trained up on that.

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Agreed.

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Boy, it's not secondhand news.

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But

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If a man or a woman goes to a state of state notary

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And they have a state of state notary witness their autograph.

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That state of state notary has to verify who they are, right?

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Correct?

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Before they put their autograph on that notary block.

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If that man or woman brings to you notarized you know two witness testimonies and a 1779

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And your recording secretary who has your state stamps and seals

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Takes those documents and does whatever is appropriate for your state, whether they put a sticker or an embossment, you know, whatever they do

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Some just put the recording number, you know, there's a couple of different strategies that I've heard on different states

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It gets published by the recording secretary. We used to publish on Global Family. People could do that themselves. I don't see that that has been nullified by what everything, you know, that happened with, Hunter recently

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But the publishing is a requirement. It has to end up being published.

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But that is not

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Contrary to what could happen after. After the fact, if someone decides that they want to do a declaration of political status, that should be done not by a state-of-state notary

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But by a recording secretary. Or if your state has a public notary

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With the public notary stamps, those folks can also do the witnessing

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But those also get recorded

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Those also get published

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but not by a state estate notary.

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So the Declaration of Political Status is after status correction

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Does that make sense what I'm saying?

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Yes, I'm understanding what you're saying and Lisa's saying, but at the same token, you're saying when I ask, so all documents, when you say the state of state is fine, I'm going, so all documents or no?

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No

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No

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And you're saying no. So first of all, just to straighten up this part, we know for a fact 1779, two witnesses, and of course, ID, you know, address, verification of that with the birth certificate. That's the basics. We know that. And Anna streamlined that down to one simple one page

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We add the DOPS so that that can be sent to the Secretary of State times two in DC and on the one the state that they're domiciled on to the state of state there.

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So three, I always, you know, like you, get original wet ink autographs to send to them, to de facto

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So you're saying when we add that DOPS, that absolutely and like Lisa was saying, has to be done by a recording secretary or the coordinator who's handling that paperwork.

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Yes

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Okay, now, and then, of course, Lisa just added in that that also the common carry. So those two documents itself need to be done.

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Yes

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All right. Okay, thank you for that. Now, is anything got to be recited any any document whatsoever need to be recited.

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And at the recording secretary or the coordinator

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When you say recited, can you tell

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May I

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Can you tell me what you mean by that, Mary?

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Standing up, standing up, reading off your document, reciting it

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May I respond to that, Michelle, this is Nancy on Texas.

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Wait, hold on, Nancy. Are you talking about her reciting question?

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Yes.

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Okay, go ahead, Nancy.

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Okay.

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Rebecca wants to talk

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So recently I have had when I am recording people, I ask them to read their 1779 out loud

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It is not required, but if you recall a witness you're at is so said

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So signed, right?

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And so if they are reading it out loud, they followed the witness girat.

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They've made their declaration out loud, and it's recorded. So, no, it hasn't been required, but how many people have we

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Recorded and published who may not have even read the document. And it's the only one that I asked them to read. I don't require it. I asked them to read it out loud is all. So I don't know if that's what she's talking about and if it's wrong, I

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I'll stop doing it, but I think that most people, they are joyful

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After they've read it. So it was the first time they actually read it out loud and heard themself say what they are doing.

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I yield

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I think that's very honorable, Nancy. I've never heard anyone

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You know, anyone say that their state or their recording secretaries or anyone is doing that. But I think that's awesome because you know what?

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It's never been a requirement. Anna has never said that someone has to read it out loud to you, or anything like that, okay?

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But

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I think you're… I think it's wonderful when people actually take the time to read what they just autographed, or what they're about to autograph, it's life altering because they get the impact of the choice that they're making to stop living among the dead and to live among the people of the land

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And if you go back and you read your Bible and you read about the people of the land

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You will see that entire book has everything to do with what we're doing here on this assembly.

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We are people of the land. It has nothing to do with a specific location. But our inheritance is the inheritance of the land.

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We are not sea creatures and we are not air creatures. We are people of the land.

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So when you're choosing

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To not have an overlord that looks like some sort of an idol.

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Or idols in your pocket

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Or idols of statues, gold, silver, or otherwise.

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Then you're not following a false idol.

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You go to receive the gift that was given to you, which is the inheritance of the land.

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And when we all finally recognize

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What that really means

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You can breathe freely.

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Knowing that you're finally home

01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.000
So

01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.000
I love that, Nancy. It's not required.

01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.000
But boy, is it powerful nonetheless

01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:48.000
I will agree with Nancy on that. The sheer fact that she says, no, it's not required, but she does ask. And I think that is, that is very honorable. Everybody has a right to choose. I think everybody, if you're coming home, you ought to be a proud American. Either you are or you're not

01:31:48.000 --> 01:32:06.000
But yeah, it's everybody has a choice. Nobody's told something, you know, what they really need to do. But anyway, thank you for that answer. I appreciate it. And that's that's literally what I wanted to know to get down to the bottom of it. And as far as the recording secretary, every single one of us are going to learn all the roles and duties

01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:21.000
Excuse me. I just had not taken that recording secretary, but due to the issues that have come up and then just getting all this straightened out again, yes, I'm going to be taking the class just so that I absolutely have that knowledge underneath my belt for sure.

01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.000
I'm on what's getting trained. So, with that, I yield. Thank you very much.

01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:32.000
Awesome. Thank you, Marianne. I hope that was helpful, not only for you, but for everybody on the call who may have those similar questions.

01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:44.000
And I know Renee, before we move on, actually, before I go to your hand, Renee, is there anybody else that has questions regarding that particular topic that was brought up regarding, the stamps and seals?

01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:47.000
Rebecca Roberts has her hand up

01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:48.000
Michelle

01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.000
All right, I know Rebecca's next, but I just wanted to make sure because her hand went up like right

01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:53.000
And Rock

01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.000
No, regarding recording secretary discussion.

01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:59.000
Go ahead, Renee. I mean, Rebecca, thank you.

01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:21.000
Yeah, just quickly, because I know we have got a ton of hands, really amazing conversation and it is at the heart really of what we're doing. And why is that? Because we're talking about sovereign status and what you said, Michelle, really struck a chord, and that was we can't receive our inheritances unless we are on the land of the living, correct?

01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:39.000
And in order to correct our status, this whole conversation has to be around the seal. And that document that we publish has to have a raised seal. And I'm just going to say this, that the raising of the seal is

01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:57.000
You are lifting off the paper to the living. You are shifting the jurisdiction by the embossed seal, by everyone knows what an embossed seal is, where the… it's pressurized and it lifts. So the whole symbol we're talking about here, just like with the red thumbprint

01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:20.000
And the autographs in the different colors all symbolize something and mean something important to us. The very important piece here that I think Marianne was actually asking about, and I may be wrong, Marianne, but it is about the seal being raised. And of course, these answers were all correct, but it was a lot of going around with no, you can't have

01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:36.000
notaries on the same document that would nullify it, right? Because you're witnessing what? It's been witness. It only needs to be witnessed once. You can't re-witness what's been witnessed. But what's super important is, can a public notary do

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:50.000
The embossed seal, if they can, then that's what you need. But whoever has that seal that lifts it up into the land of the living and changes the jurisdiction through that symbol of the embossing

01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:54.000
is doing it correctly. With that, I yield

01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:55.000
And thank you, Rebecca.

01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:56.000
Oh, may I, may I

01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:03.000
Oh, hold on one second, Marianne. Yes, but I want to speak to that, okay, because 1779's

01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:04.000
That's in town

01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:07.000
are not universally, you know, embossed

01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:18.000
And the witness testimonies are not across, you know, not all 50 states are doing embossing. Embossments usually happen on the common carry document and on the Declaration of Political Status because those are

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:25.000
internationally recognized documents. They're not of just your state

01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:29.000
They're international. They go across multiple borders

01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:40.000
And so years ago in 2021, when I was trained by our one of our original trainees when I was trained first as a recording secretary

01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:53.000
That was what I learned about when to use the embossment. Because when you're going into international waters, quote, nobody is alive internationally.

01:35:53.000 --> 01:36:02.000
And so in order that they recognize their authority is coming from a living man or a living woman

01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:17.000
That's an international symbol, if you will, of having that raised and embossed document on those, you know, seal on those two different documents, international documents, which is why when you think about

01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.000
A, quote, birth certificate

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.000
You know, they copy everything that we do.

01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:27.000
Right? So when the, quote, Secretary of State

01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:38.000
Which is an international… there's one Secretary of State on every state who's just a functionary of the a giant ship

01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.000
He's like the shipmate of the governor, okay?

01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.000
Accountable to record all the births and deaths.

01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:51.000
Okay, but as we know, they're all water jurisdiction because they're

01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:55.000
making an identity and putting everybody onto the ship

01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:02.000
So they're keep, it's like they're census. It's like they're

01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:11.000
You know, their document of keeping track of everybody that they created and that and that quote died, right?

01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:17.000
But they have an international jurisdiction because they're at the state.

01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:18.000
You see?

01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:25.000
So when you correct your… when you correct your status, there's a reason why it identifies what county you were born on.

01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:28.000
Because you were born on soil

01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:41.000
So when you correct your status, whether you do it through a state of state notary or you do it through a recording secretary, your county is recognized where this is happening.

01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:54.000
Putting you right back on your feet on that soil where it belongs. You know. So I wanted to finish that thought, but Marianne, I know that you had something that you wanted to say about that.

01:37:54.000 --> 01:38:05.000
Oh, no, thank you. You're absolutely on there. I mean, it makes all sense with Rebecca. Rebecca is understanding it what I was originally understanding it. She's she literally said to

01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000
Well, when I was referring to about the embossed seal

01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:20.000
which, to me, that embossed seal, yes, to me, that's land jurisdiction. That's an approval that our our coordinator or our recording secretary, who's ever handling the paperwork

01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.000
that they have approved the document

01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:38.000
So, I, Lisa was thinking that that's a double… like, I'm looking at it as a double witness. No, I was looking at that the paperwork was already witnessed, and it is approved as is. What Rebecca was saying in reference to that

01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:48.000
She's saying the same thing in a sense that if it's the state of state notary public, because we make them a public notary, we don't have any actual public notaries

01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:58.000
So we're making them a public notary when, you know, according to the block, the witness block. But the way that Rebecca said it was

01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:09.000
State of state can witness it and then we can put that embossed on there so it's lifting them up so we are on the jurisdiction. Now, unless I misunderstood what she said, that's what I heard.

01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:17.000
No, the only thing that you need for people to be in your to be status corrected

01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:20.000
11779 and two witness testimonies.

01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:32.000
We got that. I got what you said and I got what Lisa said, but I was listening to what Rebecca said that threw me off again. This is what I'm saying. We have to clear this misunderstanding up

01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:50.000
across all 50 nation states, so that we can… everybody's on the same one. This is a federation guideline, so everybody gets the same… same way across the board on their paperwork. That's what… and we have a lot of paperwork that's been done incorrectly because of this misunderstanding across the nation states. Who's ever been handling the paperwork?

01:39:50.000 --> 01:40:05.000
And you know, it's changed multiple hands, people are in and out, taking on roles and duties. So it's just something I'm trying to get cleared up, that's all. I thank you, I think Lisa's input. I finally got an answer for me and everyone else on this call. We can help spread that word

01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:21.000
And then, as you, you can put out a blast email because you've got pretty much all the emails from the coordinators to let our coordinators and they can put it on down to the recording secretaries. That would really help out. Get that word out for everybody

01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.000
Thank you very much. I yield.

01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:36.000
Thank you, Marianne. Maybe we need to make sure that all of our state assemblies are having consistent recordings. Secretary training calls and coordinators would be allowed to attend and observe and learn and make sure that

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:41.000
you know, any clarification that needs to happen can happen on those calls.

01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:46.000
Thank you, Marianne. Now, Rocky, did you have something else that you wanted to say as well?

01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.000
Yeah, I want to add to it.

01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000
First thing is

01:40:51.000 --> 01:41:08.000
Lisa doesn't know what I know or don't know, so she… that gamma is not… not appropriate. But anyway, because I have actually wrote the LRO system for Nevada, and I do recording secretary training every Sundays. Well, I help do the trainings on every Sundays

01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.000
So on top of that

01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:28.000
There is four different ways that you can sign the paperwork. One is a public notary, one's a notary public, one's a three, two people can sign it as witnesses or your recording secretary. On top of that, when it comes to us publishing on our LROs

01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:34.000
The first thing that we need to do is make sure that the paperwork itself is worded and correct.

01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:45.000
Like if they get a piece of paper and they take it to the a notary and have it signed and with they're only witnessing their signature, not that the data on it is correct.

01:41:45.000 --> 01:42:02.000
So that's what the recording secretaries need training for is to make sure when they're recording something that it is correct. If the document isn't one of our documents that Anna approved that says what it's supposed to say on that document, if it's a 1779 or declaration of

01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:08.000
The political status, or whatever, even the witness statements. If they're not worded right

01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:23.000
We shouldn't be publishing in our LRO, because we're going to get them in trouble with the de facto or the… our subcontractors. What we do is, if we realize and we read every document before we record it

01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:38.000
And when we read it, if it's wrong, we will read the document for them and then sign it and stamp it or whatever we need to do at that time. And the deal is, is we need to make sure that our documents are correct when they go up in the LR

01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:43.000
And that's all I wanted to say. I yield.

01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:48.000
Okay, Rocky

01:42:48.000 --> 01:43:02.000
All right, now it's almost seven o'clock and Anna is not on the call yet. I have not heard anything new from her. Lisa, have you heard from Anna?

01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.000
No, I have not

01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000
Okay

01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:17.000
Well, are there any other hands up that are not for Anna? I think we should consider calling it a night for tonight.

01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.000
Yes, I'm still waiting, Michelle, if you don't mind

01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.000
I don't mind, Michael. Go ahead, Michael.

01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:27.000
Thanks. I think this impacts everybody. First of all, I'm just going to turn on my camera

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Very, very briefly, it is me

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I have bandwidth problems. I'm going to leave my hand up just in case Hannah shows up, but I'm not real hopeful about that this late in the game.

01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:44.000
Forgive my confusion

01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:58.000
I can't remember if Anna spoke this on her recent webinar or if it was from a recent article, but she was talking about the Federation instituting Article 3 courts

01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:13.000
Well, I understand, I comprehend our need, and I do understand it for state courts. I definitely comprehend our need for the county courts

01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:30.000
When Anna said that the Federation was going to institute, or I should say restore Article 3 courts, where does this leave our state and county courts? And most importantly, what then is the role

01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:46.000
of our postal area courts, and I was wondering if anybody could answer that. And because of my office, you know, I need to get this straight in my head. And I thought I had everything straight, but now I'm confused again. So that's why I'm asking the question. So

01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:48.000
I yield. Thank you.

01:44:48.000 --> 01:45:06.000
All right. Well, I may need Lisa's help on some of this, but when it comes to, you talked about the postal area court. So postal areas have to do with our continental marshals and matters that relate to the that particular jurisdiction

01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:17.000
So postal area courts have to do, you know, they deal with criminal matters as it relates to international crime

01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:34.000
Okay, but there's multiple kinds of crime. So if you're talking about something at the state level, a criminal matter at the state level, that would have to do with our state court. If it has to do with a quote, quote, federal, I'm saying federal like this

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.000
You're going to need your your

01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:54.000
the Title III court that you're talking about right now we don't have that. I mean, there's that one court that happens to still exist in Washington, DC, but as far as I know, it's not fully functional. I don't know anybody that's been able to get remedy out of that court at this time

01:45:54.000 --> 01:46:09.000
And then, of course, local matters relate to issues between living men and living women, and that's going to be done at the county level. Unless, of course, it goes into the realm of criminal matters, let's say murder, or let's say

01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.000
you know, something that's

01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:23.000
Criminal in nature as opposed to a disagreement, you know, neighbors fighting over a property line or looking to settle some sort of a disagreement.

01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:32.000
That's going to happen right there locally on your county court. But when we're talking about criminal matters, we're going to a state court

01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:46.000
And I'm sure, Lisa, you may even have more to say on that, Michael, yourself. You're a justice on Ohio, you know, the Ohio Assembly, and you guys did an incredible amount of digging into the fine details

01:46:46.000 --> 01:47:01.000
on Ohio, so if there's anything that Ohio would like to chime in in regards to the various courts, I think it would be a great opportunity to train everybody on that.

01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:02.000
So basically

01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:06.000
I'm the one who was confused, so I'm deferring to you, Lisa. Thank you.

01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:13.000
So basically, with what my understanding is, the postal area court, of course, takes care of that

01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:19.000
international crime or you know what the continental, the realm of Continental Marshall

01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:26.000
But it also, let's say you've really got a state of state that you're going after like a state

01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:34.000
Department. You know, you're naming the state in it. That would also could also go to your

01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:41.000
Postal area court, because it's international jurisdiction.

01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:43.000
the state of state

01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.000
In our State courts.

01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:58.000
We could go after, say, an office holder. But we would also name that office holder as a man. So that we can bring them into our court.

01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:03.000
So when we notice, that's why we always notice both

01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:09.000
For example, you know, our governor is Michael Richard DeWine

01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:17.000
We, we, we notice Michael Richard DeWine in upper lower case

01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:23.000
And then we've noticed the all caps Michael Richard DeWine, governor

01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.000
of the State of Ohio.

01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:30.000
And then that way it covers us for being able to bring him in the court

01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:37.000
And… and having action directly against him in our state court as well.

01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:48.000
Okay? So we would want to have, if it was something where we were going after his office or his you know

01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:58.000
Department or whatever Department of Transportation, Ohio Department of Transportation or something, then we would want to use a postal area court to go after that.

01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:05.000
I think, I think that's where I understand it.

01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:06.000
And then our goal

01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:08.000
If we can do that, then why do we need the Article 3 courts

01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:15.000
The Article 3 court then, Michael, would be more for the Federation against

01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.000
The

01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:20.000
The U.S.

01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:29.000
It's more international, international in its jurisdiction. So it would go after, say, the federal government, the US government, or it would go after

01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:34.000
International commercial entities then

01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:35.000
Okay.

01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:36.000
Yes, it would go after long. Okay.

01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:37.000
Okay.

01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:41.000
I think it would also depend on the jurisdiction of that commercial entity

01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:50.000
Because if you're talking about a commercial entity that is, you know, let's say it's a local credit union

01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.000
And they don't have

01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:59.000
you know, branches all over the country in 2, 3, 4, 5 different states

01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.000
Right? Then it's it's not going to be

01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:09.000
that level, it's going to be confined to your state, wherever they have their

01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:17.000
Permission, you know, permission to operate their their credit union, which credit unions are usually local, but some of them have

01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:22.000
branches across counties on a state, you know, on a state

01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:35.000
So it really it's not as easy to answer a question about court in a what if scenario. Unless the what if is very specific.

01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.000
So

01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:52.000
Because there are layers, as we can see, there are layers. If you're having an issue with a neighbor that lives next door, that's different than having issues with someone on a different county. That's different than having issues with someone on a different state

01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:56.000
You see, that's different with having issues with someone

01:50:56.000 --> 01:51:07.000
You know, that lives on a houseboat on international waters. Okay, so it just kind of depends.

01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:11.000
Does that make sense?

01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:27.000
What you said makes sense to me, and I do grasp, I think. I'm just wondering what hole it is that the article three court needs to fill that it can't yet, you know, lacking

01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:34.000
grand jury that a case can be, you know, referred to, whether it's a presentment or an indictment

01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:37.000
Etc, etc.

01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:45.000
That's why I'm confused. I'm like, well, are we replacing something? Are we adding something? I

01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:57.000
I didn't really get it. I think what Lisa said helped me comprehend that the Article 3 court would probably have

01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:07.000
primary jurisdiction on an international commercial matter with, say, governmental services corporation

01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.000
masquerading as a government

01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:19.000
But, I thought that the postal area courts could do that too. So I'm still a little confused about the whole thing

01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.000
Well, if you're having an issue with, let's say, Internal Revenue Service

01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:36.000
I think it's widely recognized that internal revenue service is considered to be a federal, an agency of the federal one of the federal subcontractors

01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:46.000
Okay, so, and if they target a man or a woman because of an identity that was issued when they were born.

01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:52.000
Okay, so they're going after a particular identity. Usually it's you know

01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.000
Joe

01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:56.000
middle initial

01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:08.000
dough. You know, John… John, middle initial doe, right? The middle initial is usually indicative of the jurisdiction of the Internal Revenue Service, right? So here's this agency

01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:13.000
that may go after a man or a woman

01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:21.000
That identifies as that vague identity. Okay.

01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:32.000
And then this agency may decide that they're going to target their bank account because the bank account may have the same identity

01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:46.000
Which happens to be because of a social security number that was issued, you know, before they were of sound mind. Okay. So now we've got this federally issued number

01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.000
tied to a federally

01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:56.000
funded you know terrorist organization masking itself as a public service

01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:00.000
Targeting a living man or a living woman.

01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:06.000
All because of false, you know, false presumption about an identity.

01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.000
Why?

01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:14.000
Because they made the whole thing up. It's all a fraud. It's 100% fake.

01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:19.000
And they do it to control people and fear them into compliance.

01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:24.000
They call your, you know, earnings, they call it income.

01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:27.000
Even if you're not earning federal income

01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:30.000
Who is earning federal income?

01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.000
Okay, you're

01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:40.000
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, a political elected, you

01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:44.000
congressmen and senators

01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:51.000
All the different people that work at all of these different departments up in Washington, D.C. Those are federal workers.

01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:56.000
You're not federal workers. You're not earning federal income. I mean, unless you are

01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:57.000
Okay

01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:03.000
Or state. Do you work for your state of state? I don't. You don't, right?

01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:08.000
But people who work for state of state are earning state income.

01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:13.000
But because, quote, IRS has

01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:21.000
made everyone believe that they're all federal subjects because of the social security number and because of this false identity that they created for them

01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:23.000
renaming them

01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:31.000
Okay, just call me Belteshazzar, okay? Like, thank you for renaming me, right?

01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:35.000
If they named it, they get to. They get to presume

01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:36.000
profiting off of it

01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:39.000
But I digress.

01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:44.000
That would be an example, Michael, of this federal entity

01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:49.000
Internal Revenue Service attacking a living man or woman

01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.000
or their personal property

01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:55.000
That's why we need a court that we don't have yet.

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Because the Supreme Court

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is not helping people.

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They're not helping living people

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Well, what you're referring to really is impersonation

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Yes

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And frankly, it's a form of slavery, which, by the way, has been outlawed a long time. Anna brings this up a lot

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You know, there was Wilberforce, I forget what his name. I forget his first name, but Wilberforce was known

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In the, you know, 1800s for working for over 40 years to stop slavery

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In… in… in Britain

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I went to

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Wilbur, Wilbur Wilberforce

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Thank you, Cynthia. Wilbur Wilberforce, okay. He was trying to put an end to slavery, right? But when we think of slavery, we think of shackles

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Because that's what we were taught to think of.

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We weren't taught to think of paper slavery and the fear that gets imposed by identity theft. Well, first of all, identity creation. Okay. And then identity theft

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Well, this is all done

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By paper, you know, it's all legal and has nothing to do with law. It's all just the banksters using their private soldiers, the bar attorneys

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To jump out of their jurisdiction, basically jumping out of their box, and to go after living men and women

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Yep, 100%, yes.

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But it's the core, you know, the court that you're talking about that Anna was talking about is we need those courts that are going to protect the living from agencies like the IRS. These sweeping federal agencies that really have no standing to do what they're doing to any living man or any living woman because they have no consent

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Because it's all done by there's no full disclosure. And by the way, even when they attempt

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To give full disclosure

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Read one of their documents and try to translate it into plain English without looking up the words in one of their black dictionaries.

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It's practically impossible because you and I might say, oh, that Marianne, she's a really nice person.

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And you and I think we're talking about

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Marianne, okay. But in the legalese, if it's on paper and it's the word person, it is specifically not related to anyone that's alive. Okay.

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Well, that's why they call your name in court, you know, the administrator will call your name

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And not showing you that on that piece of paper that he's holding in his hand is the all-caps entity, you know, that is not you. And if you're dumb enough to raise your hand or stand up or, you know, affirm

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That that is you. Well, congratulations. You've just been jointered and you are guilty until proven innocent.

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Yes, and by the way, I brought this up on my county recently because it is so important. It was in John

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John 1:1.

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Okay, in the New Testament, and it says, in the beginning was the word

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Okay, and the word was God

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And sorry, the word was with God and then it says the word was God

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Why? Why is that even in the Bible? Because

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words are what create. Our words create. Our words create the future. Our words create the present. What is happening

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When did we allow pirates to steal our words?

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When you autograph something, that's your authority, that's your name. Your name is your authority. Your name is your own seal.

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Don't give away your autograph

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Don't give away your time. Don't give away your breath

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It's all your personal property.

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And it belongs to you, and you uniquely alone, nobody gets to take that from you.

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So word

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Remember that John 1:1, the word is God

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Why? Because

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God is the ultimate authority. Your word is your ultimate authority.

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No one can take that away from you. Even if all now there's only 137 of us on this call. If 136 of you decided one thing

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About somebody else on this call.

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Guess what? Without their consent

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No

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It's not going to happen.

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Because that's America.

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So when some government

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between a Republican form of government and a democracy. And that's one of the reasons they keep on trying to program everybody to think that we're living in a democracy

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This is not mob rule

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Hello

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And a Republican form of government, the rights of the man or the woman are protected first and foremost. That kind of goes along with the saying that, you know.

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No one is free until all of us are free.

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Great.

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Well, and breaking through the cognitive dissonance where people are in a mental prison

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Thinking that they have to

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I don't know, Jen, you flecked to a majority. No

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If that majority is wrong, which, by the way, we've walked away from a system of a majority being wrong

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Listen, you want to roll up your arm and you get injected, you go right ahead. But no majority is going to be able to tell me or you or any of you that say no

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Sorry, if you're afraid, that's between you and God. That has nothing to do with me, my family, my children

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If you're afraid, you get to go figure that out.

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But our assemblies are here to make sure that every man and every woman knows the difference between right and wrong.

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And we don't do democracy around here. And when we do.

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Coordinators are going to have to course correct, and it may not be very popular, but it's going to have to happen.

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Why? Because it's the ultimate learning lesson. Okay. It's the ultimate learning lesson.

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Oh, certainly words have power, you know, one of the books I recommend to my students is Word Magic by Pao Chang. And I'm like, read that one before the

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Before the sequel

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You know, and that's… that's how they do this. They, you know, as you mentioned, the legalese and Black's Law, they take common words, and, you know, our original founding documents here on America were written in common law

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It was common knowledge, everybody could understand those documents. Now they've got everybody so dumbed down

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Most people don't know what the definitions are of the words in those documents. Now they're not even teaching

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Handwrite, you know, cursive handwriting anymore

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So that people can't even read those documents.

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And it's all about the words, twisting the words. Words have power. I'll go back to the beginning of Genesis

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You know, didn't the creator speak everything into existence? There is power in sound and frequency

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And, you know, words on paper are translated into audio.

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And vice versa

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So, you know, there's a clue

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Can I add something real quick

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Yes. This great conversation. Thank you, Michael. But basically, I hope we digressed a little bit. But in relation to the court, okay, just to simplify

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Courts to, you know, different courts are there to serve different functions. And so it just kind of depends on the crime who committed the crime, who the victim is

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And et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, it's not

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Thank you.

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Not super unless we have a real world sample of, you know.

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Which, by the way, it's like an oxymoron. Okay, real

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I look forward to the Federation having a grand jury and going ahead and let's start putting this into practice, you know, because the ultimate thing is, you know, I keep reminding people of this, so many people are saying that the courts are about law and order

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No, that's de facto. What we're looking for is justice

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If we didn't, you know, why would we need jural nullification

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If all we were looking for was law and order, right?

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It's all about justice

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And for me to be able to do my work properly when I'm serving in my office, that's why I need to clarify the roles of each of these courts.

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Hmm?

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Yeah, the courts actually have a really big responsibility. And by the way, I would want to share a potential pitfall as we're standing up our assemblies

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There's a natural pitfall

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that once you get your courts up

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You're going to be attacking one another with what you've learned

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Okay. Attacking one another.

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Put your hand out.

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Cut it out

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We… our common enemy is the one that turned us into property.

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turned us into slaves for their profit. That's who needs to be in our courts facing justice

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Okay. So we need to remind ourselves that when we have a hiccup, we have an obstacle, we have a challenge, we have a difficult conversation that we have to have with somebody on our assembly.

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Have that conversation, work it out as a family, because you know what, we've all been called here

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Look around

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We're all different.

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We're from different places, we have different backgrounds, we have different heritage, different cultures, different beliefs, different everything. And we are all here assembling. That is a supernatural act.

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You heard that call, you answered that call, and you're here. We should be rejoicing.

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That we have found one another

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This should be like

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Oh my gosh, there you've been all my life. I love you guys for being here. Okay.

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You know how many millions of people there are on the planet

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And you answered the call.

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And you, and you, and you, and you, and all of you

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You answered that call. You should pat yourself on the back.

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Because this isn't for the week

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It's for those who are willing to stand

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And stand through the fire. Put on your breastplate, put on your helmet.

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Grab your

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Love sword, okay? Because we're not at war

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But we're walking into war

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And the only thing greater and more powerful than war and fighting

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is love and standing for that. And sometimes there's tough love

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Okay

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But we're here because we're doing this is an act of love

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I want to make a statement

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Go ahead, Rocky.

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But people understand what a Title III court is. It's the only courts that a living man or woman can be in.

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And they do all jurisdictions. They can handle anything in any jurisdiction. So they're the only ones that can handle our jurisdiction complaints against de facto is through a Title III court.

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That's all I want to say.

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Yeah, an article Title III, Article 3

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Okay, yeah, Title III, yeah.

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Yeah, those… the word article and title are used sort of interchangeably

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You know?

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But just like the example, if the IRS is going after a living man, right, it's the exact same thing that Rocky just said. It's just… that's just one example. But there's so many ways that a living man or a living woman can be harmed

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By

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it depends, you know, it just kind of depends on who's coming after them

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Right, and that's why we need our Title III courts, Pat.

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So that we have remedy somewhere

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Right.

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Yeah, and by the way, it's not that you don't have remedy. If you stand up your court, you've got remedy right there in your court.

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I know, but if you wanted to get remedy in their system. It's a Title III court you would have to go to to remedy, you know, get it remedied.

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I can't say it

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Get a remedy for it.

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Right?

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Yeah, that's a great way of saying it. Thank you, Rocky.

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May I

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You're welcome.

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May I on the subject?

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I thought you had told me that I was nuts, but and I do have a comment about two conversations ago

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We have a live mike

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That was me. I was just asking, could I ask something on the subject of it? That's all

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We had another somebody else who had a live mic. I'm not sure who it was.

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My bad.

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Yeah, I thought Michelle called me a little bit ago, said I was next and I was just trying to comment on something that was mentioned

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Two conversations ago

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Go ahead, Renee.

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So

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Nancy Brainerd was talking about paperwork, and I think Mary Ann was too

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And I talked to a very nice gentleman today that is the chairman on Texas

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And, before I talk to someone, I typically look at their paperwork, make sure they're papered up. I'm not trying to injure anybody, just to have a nice conversation, and I noticed some things about the documents

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And, since you had all said that if someone has been their documents are witnessed more than once, they're invalid. Is that correct?

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So many states had witnessed his documents, Michigan, Arizona, Texas

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are all on his documents, so I'm just wondering if they're invalid. Maybe each state needs to you know reach out to their assemblies and say, you know

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Look at your documents and see what's going on. It was something that was very

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I had never seen before.

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So they were recording secretaries at multiple states and notaries on the documents. and that was what I just wanted to bring up, and I yield

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I think when we're talking about the word witness

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We may be talking about two different things.

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Okay.

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Specifically witnessing for seven, you know, for someone who's doing status correction

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The witness

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These were status correction documents

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Yeah, the one who watched them autograph, that's their witness. But

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To move

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They might move out of state

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You know, let's say they're living on California. They get their status corrected. A recording secretary publishes their documents.

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And then

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They move to Ohio. Okay. They're going to want to show their status correction documents to the Ohio recording secretary

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who isn't witnessing the autograph, that already happened

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But now they're acknowledging

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that they've moved

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They're a man or a woman on California, you know, they're a Californian, and now they're moving to Ohio. That's different

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than being a witness to their autograph

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So when recording secretaries and coordinators are talking about witnessing a document

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What they should be talking about is the autograph. Witnessing the autograph.

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So, Michelle, that doesn't make sense to me. If you are on a state, let's say I'm on Michigan

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Okay.

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And my documents are on the LRO

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They're on E-Verify

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And I moved to California

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All I have to do is change my nationality

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No

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Or my state, I don't… I don't have to have them. So if I change in 50 different states

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Every time that recording secretary has to stamp my documents

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Like, a passport.

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No, it's more like this. If you're born a Michiganian, Michigan

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Yes.

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Mitigated. It's so funny.

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Okay.

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If you're a status corrected woman on Michigan, I'll just make it easy on myself, okay?

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Good deal.

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You're always going to be in Michigan, Lian.

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Michiganian. Michiganian.

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Yeah

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Go ahead.

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Please forgive my improper English there. Okay.

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I'm just gonna be that, because that's where you were born.

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Even if you move somewhere else. But you won't be a Californian. You'll be

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a woman from Michigan on California. Okay

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a Michiganian

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Awesome.

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California. That's what you'll always be. That's how come Anna, when she talks about that she's on Alaska, but she was born in, Minnesota. What is it

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Wisconsin.

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Wisconsin, yep

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Wisconsin. Okay. She's always going to be a Wisconsinite.

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Even though she lives on Alaska

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Your nationality is actually determined by the county and the state that you were born on.

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So that is your nationality right there.

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Hmm.

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And when someone moves, sometimes they choose to possibly update paperwork, like a fee schedule. Or you might see them update a declaration of political status because they didn't… they either had an old one

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They need additional to be able to send off or prove they need more wet ink signature. So they'll update it, and you'll upload it. And they can only do that on the state that they're currently living on. They don't go back to a state that they lived on before

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So you'll see paperwork out there and it'll sometimes it's a mix of different states because they have either moved or they have update and when they move, they updated their paperwork. So you'll see a mishmash of stuff out there. It doesn't mean it's wrong

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I'm wondering if we shouldn't show examples of that because like I'm looking at it and I actually had it kind of backwards. So your nationality is a state that you're born on, and then your home state is the one that you that you're on now. So

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When you come aside

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Right.

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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So each time that you move, your home state changes. Should your documents change in the LRO as in regards to, like, does the recording secretary have to record them? I don't… I don't think they do. There have already been recorded on a state

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No, not unless someone chooses to update them and you can update your documents at any time.

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Okay

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But they could be published on that new state

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But record

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But they

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Recording is the witnessing process

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Right. So when you would say you move to You decided to move to Wisconsin, Renee. And you took your documents. Well, you're going to place your documents on the Wisconsin Assembly, which means you have to have them uploaded to their LRO account

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Right.

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Okay? Or you're going to transfer if there's a transfer available, you're going to transfer your documents over there. So it's going to read all Michigan on your documents, but you're going to be domiciled on Wisconsin.

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Correct, but for me, I would think that

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The LRO E-Verify has already had your documents from Michigan. And then when you go to Texas or Arizona, then

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And they have their own LRO, then you would update them for their LRO, but you wouldn't have to update them on the main LRO

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In my opinion

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Okay, you don't have to, you don't have to update them on the new state.

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You can just take your old documents, your original documents, and just publish them on that state in that state's LRO.

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Whatever LRO, whether they're using the TASA and it gets transferred over, or if it's their own state LRO, then you provide a digital copy of your documents, and they're uploaded to an account under your name.

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That shows you to be domiciled on that state.

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Can you see how convoluted this would be for some states, though?

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Like

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No, it happens every day.

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Nope, not for you and me, but for some people it would be.

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Well, you know, that's why recording secretaries need to be trained up, and coordinators need to be trained up, so that if there's a man or woman that moves

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That they have competent people that can guide them on next steps.

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You know, they might end up falling in love and getting married. Or, you know, they might have a baby.

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They might have someone, you know, they might buy property. There are a bunch of things that could happen on the new state where they moved.

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And we have to make sure that all of their personal property gets properly recorded on the land recording office, you know, for your state or

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the Lro, the TASA provided LRO until your State has a functional Lro system

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So yeah, it can get confusing.

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But it's up to us to be knowledgeable enough to make sure that the chaos… the days of chaos are supposed to be over. So we're here to guide them on how we do it on the land.

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Thank you. I yield.

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You're welcome. Great question. Thanks, Renee.

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All right, now we still have some hands up, but Anna still isn't here.

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It's about 735. Any other general questions for tonight, or should we call it a night? What do you guys want to do?

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May I, Michelle

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Yeah, go ahead, Marianne.

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I didn't know, because as I seen a few more, I didn't know if they were still just going to go ahead and wait for Anna or not. I had Well, two things I just wanted to clarify one more time with Lisa. But I was wanting to follow up when you were talking about Michael was talking about Article 3 courts

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Let me address that one real quick here first, if I may. I was reading in the chat and Jason, Colorado had made a comment. There's an article three court up and running in New York. Running running for years for international commerce

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Last time I checked, that would absolutely have nothing to do with any of our assemblies, because we're just now getting, you know, the past several years gotten our assemblies up, and we are dejour. That's that's got to be de facto stuff that they're doing. Like, could that be that other

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That whole there's a national group out there trying to portray as us, and they're not

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No

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Could that beat them? Could that be them?

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No.

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No, there used to be Article 3 courts all over the United States, and they've slowly shut them all down because they only want to put their administrative courts in Marianne. And Article 3 courts serve living people, not fictional entities.

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Right.

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And they've got it down to one because they have to keep one somewhere

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Okay.

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By their constitution. But the backlog for that is about 15 years of cases. Because they just don't move them through.

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That's the problem. Okay.

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Okay, let me ask what I want to let you finish. I didn't want to interrupt you. But you said about value thing here. If we've been usurped upon for 165 years

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All of us turned into, you know, legal fiction, dead corpse entities, if you will. How can there be one, because you said, well, there had to be one operating. Well, how is that on the way that they've committed all this fraud against us and our actual American government

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was not standing, which is the only one that has the authority and right for the living men and women, unless I'm misunderstanding something.

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Yes. The fact that the Constitution

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has two parties

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So they have to keep it because that's part and parcel of their side of the contract

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Right?

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Right? Service, service agreement.

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Contract service of contract.

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Right. So it doesn't it doesn't necessarily require

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They don't have to actually operate it, they just have to leave it open.

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To fulfill their side of the contract.

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Yeah.

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And they pretend like it is a non-existent fictional creature like a, you know.

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Rainbow unicorn or something.

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Thank you for that. I was just trying to understand that part on how could that have even been operating anything like that. And then I just wanted to clarify, Lisa. Because we had asked this, you know this. We had asked, I don't know if Missy's still on the call. But Missy had texted you when we were having this conversation about the paperwork

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And you had responded with about the 1779 and DOPS. And you said they both needed to be recited. But here on the call tonight, you said, nope, only the DOPS, but you added the common carry. So I just want to clarify, was that correct

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So I've got these definitely straight that those are the only two documents and they don't need to be recited. They just need to be done by a recording secretary or the coordinator who's ever handling the paperwork

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That's correct, and on, you know, on Ohio, we have always, and this was a practice

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even before I was a recording secretary in May of 2,021

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We have always had our… we have always requested our people to read their 1779 and their Declaration of Political Status

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And because they are declarations, we're declaring it both in Word, in spoken word as well as written word

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Okay

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And there are people, Mary Ann, that get emotional

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when they read those. There are some people who show that they're confused and need explanation. Well, what is this about the… without the United States and without the United States territories, and without the United States of America, what are they talking about? They'll get right in the middle of it.

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And then they'll realize and that's great because it gives them an opportunity to say, well, wait a minute, I didn't think that's what I was doing. I've never had anybody back up.

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But I have had even men break down and cry at the momentous and almost sacred moment that happens when they read and declare that out loud

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Okay

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Absolutely

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So, they don't have to, they don't have to. It's just a nice part, a little ceremonious part as they become and come back and are recoveyed back to being an American.

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And the only two documents that really need the embossed raised seal done by a recording secretary, not a notary public.

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Is the declaration of political status and the common carry declaration because they need particular

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Raise seal of particular colors. DeFacto doesn't do that

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Thank you. And I agree with you. Absolutely. It's a very for many people, it's very emotional because, you know, you're a proud American. So I just wanted to clarify that. So thank you very much.

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That's all I've got. I yield. Thank you, ladies, for women. Thank you, women. For a wonderful evening. A lot of great information. I yield.

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Thank you.

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Lisa, what about the baby deed

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We don't have them read a date, baby deed. They just make that baby deed out.

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There's not

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It doesn't have to have the raised seal

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No.

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Okay, thank

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I'm sorry, I have another question real quick. I just remembered it with this paperwork stuff. May I, Michelle

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You're muted, Michelle.

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Go ahead, Marianne.

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Sorry, you guys, hold on one second, my son is calling. I'll be right back. Okay, what was

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It just reminded me

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A man on Florida went and corrected. So this is what I'm talking about, you know, other nation states. We've got a lot of people getting passed with their paperwork and it's not correct then so that we can all get on board with the same thing. Is it and I read this on TASA's on, you know, where Anna's got all that listed on the one pager

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To where the 1779, that is the only document outside of the baby deeds because we would print our names, print our autograph. But the 1779 needs to be printed and not autographed in cursive. Is that correct?

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So

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Or can that be done in cursive

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So I would never, I would never call autographing cursive.

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Well, it was, I was just trying to explain the difference

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Autographing autographing is always to the recording secretaries would be the fact of printing it in upper and lower case

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And you know, I always tell everybody, and it's kind of optional on a declaration of political status. If you print or if you script right on it

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But if your script is not legible

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Then I encourage anybody to go ahead and autograph. Autograph is always lawful.

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Printing your name in upper and lowercase is always lawful.

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If you wish to to then script write and have enough

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ability in your penmanship to make that very legible, then the only documents that are really required to be

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Autographed in upper lower case printing would be really your 1779

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That's it.

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That's it

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And everything else can be scripted.

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But only if it's legible.

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So it doesn't matter whether it's, again, as Michelle said earlier, it is about intent.

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What was your intent

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Okay.

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Right.

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All right.

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I'm just clarifying because that was something that was noted to me. That was the only thing that the recording secretary required that they, because they did it. And you just taught me something here. I was under the impression autograph was

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Scripted as you call it, where you're pointing out an autograph is when we're printing it. So you taught me and everybody else something who did not know that. So I appreciate that. But the gentleman did not the man, excuse me. The man did his scripted and the recording secretary called him out on that and said it needed to be printed

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And here's the thing on that. So it's very important that we have who who does the training for the recording secretaries, Lisa? Is that you, or do we have somebody else?

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Sometimes I do it. Sometimes in the past there's been others

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So

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Okay. I didn't know if we've got several different, you know, several different of you men and women that are working with everybody. It is something we're going to have to set up something. And I know you're a very busy woman yourself because you do the coordinator calls.

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We have to set up something so that, you know, we're all getting, you know, our… everybody's getting trained appropriately, that's all. And I know Michelle mentioned that earlier, that, yeah, we want to get on top of that for all of us

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Fantastic. Yeah, I've seen that

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There is a recording secretary manual on the task. Is it TASA or is it in the

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Document Management Server

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Yes. I've read that and that was where too, even when I'm reading that. But you're listening to other recording secretaries and the coordinators, you know, and or and we get different conflicting information back. So that's why it was just very important to kind of get that nailed down to what's correct

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So we can all get the word around. Thank you for that. That's that's all that I have. Thank you so much. I yield.

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Thank you, Marianne. And I see that Julie put in the chat that there's a recording secretary telegram channel

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And I don't want you to announce it out loud, because that's not going to be… this call goes up on the Mop and Bucket channel on Rumble, but Julie, if you don't mind putting the name of the channel or a link to the channel into the chat, that way Recording Secretaries that are on our call

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could and or coordinators who want to

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Get information regarding our recording secretaries. They could do that on that channel. I mean, unless it's a working group, which I understand sometimes when they're a comprehend that when there's a working group, it should be for people that are, you know, in that role

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We respect that space

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But if it's a channel that coordinators could observe, you know, that would be very helpful.

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May I, Michelle

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Yeah, go ahead.

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I was going to say, when I was confirming last week, I was asking other recording secretaries, Marlene on Washington is one of them. I forget her last name off the top, but I'm sure you know who Marlene is.

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She's the one, she has, and I think that's what Julie's talking about. Yeah, Julie's on Washington. Though they have that recording secretary, a group of them for all around in any of the nation states that want to be on it, on that telegram. I think that's what Julie's talking about. Yeah, because she's from Washington, so I'm sure she would know

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But I wanted to add that. I was just now reading and I seen that. So I just want to kind of add that in for you all.

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I yield.

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Thank you, Mary Ann.

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Okay, now, Ryan, you've got your hand up, but it's been up for a while, so I'm not sure if you're a holdout for Anna or if you had a general question or comment

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I can wait till next week

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Thank you, Michelle.

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All right, you're welcome. I see you're on here twice. I'm like, wait, how did that happen without you unmuting? But now I see. Okay.

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All right, super, everybody. Well, it's, you know, 7:45, 7:46 Pacific time.

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We'll go ahead and wrap it up for tonight, but we'll be back next Thursday, same time, different channel.

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So I will make sure that the new link, you know, goes out next Thursday. Usually I get it out before noon Pacific time

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If you don't get it by noon Pacific time, feel free to reach out to me by email. I definitely think our assemblies are under attack and that we're being blocked at some level

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The weirdest things have been happening lately.

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I won't go into it right now, but there's just a lot mostly related to the post office.

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But

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All right, everybody, any other last last things that will need to be talked about tonight before we wrap it up and reconvene next Thursday?

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All right. Well, thank you all for being here. Thank you for your important input. I really appreciate you, and thank you, Lisa, for being at the ready.

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And for Janice, also co-hosting, very quietly, helping out in the background, making sure that everybody that

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Should be on the calls, on the call. Thank you, you guys. We'll see you next week.

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If I may real quick, Michelle.

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All right, go ahead, Clay.

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At the top of the hour, I posted a link and a video about the med beds

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Oh, okay, in the chat.

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Yeah, the very first thing was posted tonight is a young lady from overseas. And

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what they're doing and how they're coming out and so on, and they're coming out of Japan, but she does have quite a little interesting video if everybody wants to look at that or go to her Instagram.

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Well, you know, okay, really quick. If you want everybody to see that, you know, it's a funny thing. It like starts the chat when you when you know

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Whenever someone hopped on the call, that's when their chat starts. They don't always get to see everything that got posted before them

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Just reposted it.

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Thank you, that'd be great. Now, of course, everyone can download the chat when you go to the link

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So keep that in mind, too. You can always download the whole chat.

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But all right, thank you for that, Clay.

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Okay, everybody

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You're welcome. Thank you.

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Go ye forth and multiply, and we'll see you next Thursday, and have a great week, okay, everybody? God bless you. Thank you tonight

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Good night, Michelle.

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Good night, Michelle.

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Thank you. Good night.

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Good night, Lisa.

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Not everybody

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Good night

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Good night, No