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All right, oh wait, that was the note-taker Rick one. Hold on one second.

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Okay, here we go. Now the whole thing should be recording. All right, everybody, good evening. Um, welcome to the Countrywide Coordinator Call with Anna Von Rice, Lord willing, she'll be here tonight.

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Today is January 29th, 2026, and it's 515 Pacific time. I want to welcome everybody.

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And, um, we have Mark Allen volunteering to open us up in a prayer, and then John Russell will do the biven, so… Go ahead, Mark Allen.

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Uh, he can do the Vivens first, uh, we should have God in our presence at all times. Let the Bivens go first. Can we do that?

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Oh, it's God before country.

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Well, yeah, and then if we do anything after it, it's another god.

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God opens up the whole thing.

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Well, then go ahead, because I can't be a part of it.

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Okay, thank you. Do we have any other volunteers?

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I'm gonna step in… Thank you.

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I'll take it, I'll take it, uh, Michelle. Cynthia.

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Thank you, Cynthia. Go for it.

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Lord, we want to ask you in this point in time for every person present, that you would.

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open our understanding and our minds. To conceive, understand, and implement.

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the work that lay ahead. Let every assembly flourish.

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as they go forth, and they work the process to understand what's needed and where we're going.

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And I ask that, so be it. Amen. Go.

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Albeit. Thank you, Cynthia. All right, Russell, go ahead.

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Your symptoms.

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Alrighty, this meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation are posted inflammatory rhetoric in the public forum is forbidden and shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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To eliminate all conflicts and false allegations,

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Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting who is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency?

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Public agency or federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.

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Is there a response to the Bevins decision for the first time?

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And in response for the second time.

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And a response for the third.

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Anyone who is here, under false pretenses, anyone who is working for

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Any foreign government, including the territorial United States,

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or the municipal United States, anyone who was being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence.

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Our purpose. Now,

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or lead the premises, or this conference call.

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If they subsequently show up as a federal witness, they are discredited for failure to disclose. I thank you.

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And everybody have a great evening here.

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Because I am.

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Thank you, John Russell. Okay, now, um, I know we've got, gosh, a little over 200 people in this.

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Zoom room tonight, and I don't see that Anna is with us just yet.

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Um, there are many hands that are up. Um, are there any hands that are up that are not for Anna, or not waiting for Anna?

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Go ahead, Jamie.

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Uh, me? Okay, yeah, I just… I have a question for… for Lisa when she comes up. If Landon doesn't show up, I think Lisa can handle.

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Lisa on Ohio, she comes on, that's all.

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Yeah, Lisa's here tonight. Do you want to, um, ask Lisa your question?

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Yeah, so she's on… I can't see, because I'm on my phone, because my computer does… Zoom doesn't work on my… laptop, so I just use my phone.

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No problem!

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So… Okay, if Lisa's here… Uh, Lisa, I wanted to ask you if she can tell me about the duties of the secretary.

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Specifically, the duties of the Secretary for the General Assembly.

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I noticed, and I look back, and one of my emails about the.

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about her chart for the organization of the different pillars of the assembly, and there's a secretary for the militia, for the general assembly, and for the International Business Assembly.

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But what specifically are the duties of the secretary for the General Assembly.

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Okay, no problem.

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Because I'm a little confused on that. Thank you.

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So, so, uh, Jamie, the, um, Secretary of the General Assembly

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She's there to kind of, um, set up…

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The General Assembly meetings, get the meeting notices out, do the communication.

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Um, she's there to take and keep track of all the agenda items,

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and assist in the, in the, um…

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putting together of the agenda, making sure that that agenda's out, and gets out to everyone.

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Um, if you don't have a scribe, the…

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General Assembly, um,

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Secretary would keep track of all of the moves.

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and votes, um, that happen within the assembly, so for any of the issues,

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that come up in General Assembly, she would…

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write those down, that so-and-so made the move, so-and-so made the second, and here's the issue, and…

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Here was the vote, right?

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Um, and then she just kind of keeps the general assembly files, any correspondence,

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secretary, right?

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Right, okay.

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And she may directly assist the chairman of the assembly, um, in their correspondence and, uh, in the filing of those records as well.

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Okay.

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Okay, now what about keeping the, uh… I understand the secretary is also a record keeper, is that correct?

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keeping the recordings of the meetings, or the transcripts, or…

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Well, no, you're… no, your recording set, your… your… your record keeper is actually… that is their job, so…

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Um, so the record keeper…

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For example, here on Ohio,

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Um, I… I am also the record keeper. I had the room to keep all the records, right? So I…

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default. Um…

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And, um…

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But I have… I have an assigning secretary for all of the recording secretaries, because

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Recording secretaries are basically under the record keeper.

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Okay? And…

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They create the records, the record keeper files the files and keeps the records, right?

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Okay.

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Um, so I have a… I have an assigning recording secretary who assigns

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Um, the different intakes that come into the different recording secretaries.

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which Ohio shortly will have 9.

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And, um, and then…

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Um, the record key… I also have a digital record keeper,

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Who assists me in uploading and keeping and archiving all of the digital records and things.

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Um, as well as, um,

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He takes and files all of the agendas.

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Um, underneath…

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Uh, with the recordings, so he does that. Our…

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recording sec… or our General Assembly Secretary also keeps those, so we've got them in two spots.

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Um, and…

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Um, and then I have a records committee underneath the record keeper

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committee that comes and helps me file records.

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So, that's kind of the… their job. Recording… the… the General Assembly Secretary's secretary.

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Um, and unlike…

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Right now, at this state of… in our states of,

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The secretary that's there

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is actually the Secretary of State is actually

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um, a plant of…

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the municipal government. So they're all under the U.S. Secretary of State.

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And underneath the, um…

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papal authority. So…

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don't get the two of them confused, because they…

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The Secret General Assembly Secretary is Secretary.

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Right.

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Okay?

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Right, okay, so basically then, the secretary helps with correspondence and all.

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But the record keeper is a separate position. Which, uh, would keep the recordings of the meetings, say, the audio.

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That's correct.

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are the audio-visual recordings of the General Assembly meetings there, and the record keeper would also keep the transcripts of the meetings?

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That… that's correct. So…

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Um, that records keeper, um, functions across all pillars.

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Okay.

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So there's not a separate records keeper

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for, you know, any of the sub…

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Okay.

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sub-assemblies, all of those records get housed under the records keeper for the General Assembly.

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Okay.

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Okay?

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Okay, fine. Alright, that helps a lot. Thanks, Lisa.

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Sure, and if you're lucky enough to have a secretary in every sem… in every assembly,

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Um, you know, to begin with, you might not.

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And to begin with, you might not have a chairman on every separate assembly.

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Right.

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So… so, for example, here on Ohio, we… we don't have that luxury of having a chairman

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on each of our sub-assemblies.

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So, our assembly voted

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Just to place me as pro tem.

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Which means I have to go to all those meetings.

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Um, and so does my… so does my general assembly Secretary.

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Oh, boy, yeah.

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Okay, because we don't have a secretary on each of those pillars.

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So we, you know, we manage with that. Sometimes you just have to kind of punt a little bit.

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But, um, I'm only pro tem. I claim no otheruty than that.

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Okay.

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Then making sure that it's happening, that it stays on track, and that's…

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It's really about it. Okay?

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You're welcome. You know, again, I can't emphasize

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Okay, thanks so much, Lisa.

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too hard that, you know, the chairman of the assembly, they have no power.

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They only do what you tell them to do.

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Right? Okay.

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So…

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All right. Right, we're all equal.

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All equal. Put our pants on every day, one leg at a time.

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Unless you're very talented, right?

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So…

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Right. Yeah. Well, some of us do have to do multiple roles and multiple duties until we get a lot more people on our assemblies, so we can.

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As Paul says, uh, hand off some of the hats.

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That's right. And boy, I'll be glad when I can hand about 6 of them off.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, I know you stay… yeah, you probably stay busier than a bunch of one-legged ice skaters.

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Absolutely. All right.

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So… Alright, take care, Lisa, thanks.

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Thank you, Jamie.

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You know, with your accent there, Jamie, ice skater sounds a little different.

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Sorry.

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I don't think she said at ice skater, but I would compare it to a one-armed paper hanger.

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Right?

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Well, that's… that's my… I've been hearing a bunch of one-legged ice skaters, that's my own expression, yeah.

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Yes. So…

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So great. Hilarious. By the way, I couldn't help but notice this awesome graphic.

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that, um, Michael Beerwald put into the chat. Wait, I'm trying to pull it up. Did you guys see this awesome thing?

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This is great. Who made this? This is wonderful.

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I actually found that on Facebook in a state national group.

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Oh.

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Can you guys see this thing? Welcome to… Oh, this thing is awesome!

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Who is the artist, I wonder, that put this together?

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That's great.

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I don't know, it's amazing some of the stuff I find, even, uh, from like-minded people that are not necessarily members.

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of our assemblies, but uh… they get it, and they share, and I pass it on, you know?

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We help each other, so…

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You know? And hopefully, hopefully they'll get active and join us eventually. So, you never know, I keep my eyes open.

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And whoever it is that is, you know, is able to summarize, you know, so well, we gotta find whoever this is and put them to work.

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Yeah, that simple stuff is great for newbies, and…

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Outreach and stuff, you know, it just puts it in a way that people can comprehend it easily.

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Even if, uh, they're still carrying around a lot of indoctrination and stuff from the de facto.

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Thank you. I yield.

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Great, thank you, what a wonderful contribution.

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Michelle, can you repost that, please?

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Can I what?

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Oh, sure, sure. Actually, um, let me see how to do that.

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I put the photo in the chat also, so all you have to do is click on it and download it.

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Yeah, anyone…

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Yeah, anybody that joined, um, after you shared it, Michael, they may not be able to see it.

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Are we both?

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I reposted it.

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Thank you.

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Um, feel free to drop… Oh, super! Yeah, that's great.

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Really, really good. Alright, still know Anna, though. My goodness.

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Go ahead, Doug, yeah.

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This is Doug, may I? So I posted an email from Terry about the.

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Roundtable on Saturday that she's gonna. organize the links to… and everything.

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With it, um, it's about, uh, how to. formal assembly.

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So, and um… also, I was. Wondering if I could go first. I've been trying to ask this question for 3 weeks of Anna.

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About the… how to set up our courts of record.

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And I've emailed her and everything and never heard back, so.

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Yeah, I, you know, I have a feeling she's being inundated right now, because, um, she hasn't gotten back to me in over a week, which is very, very odd.

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responds quickly, but I know that there are other, you know, other coordinators, other people that she's in more frequent communication with these days, so Lisa may have an update, or perhaps Cynthia, or…

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Well, this is… this is… really, you know, she's gotta give us a recipe for how to use our courts of record, so that's…

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Well, I mean, at the end of the day, the courts of record end up being an administrative process.

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And so, I think that the courts of record are just that. It's this back-and-forth dialogue that we have with, um, keeping our employees at bay. The issue that I see is that they continue to ignore.

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They're ignoring notices, um, in fact, one of our American state nationals went to the airport today.

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And not only was she harassed with her credential card.

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But they ended up taking her laptop, computer. and scanning it, and it actually ended up, um, being somewhat of an ordeal regarding her computer. She was very lucky, not lucky, but fortunate, I guess.

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to get it back.

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So… So on that note. I just found out about the Sovereign Letters patent.

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Okay.

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that Anna put out in. with James in 2015, November of 2015.

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So, I'll put a, um… Copy of that in the chat.

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Um…

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Well, if you want to do a screen share, um, so that everybody knows what you're talking about, we've had a number of new coordinators join the.

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various assemblies, since Anna put that out, Anna and James… Oh, that was, like, 10 years ago.

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Yeah, I didn't know about it until. Terry mentioned it, and she said.

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Where can I find this? And I said, I don't even know what you're talking about.

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So, uh, but Terry said when I talked to her the other day, she said she's gonna put it up on TASA, so it'll be.

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were out there. And, um… And I also didn't know, uh.

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And has written a few articles about it, so if you wanted.

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do an advanced search, use the advanced search on the NFUNREE webpage.

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Then you'll find… and I haven't read any of those articles either, because I just found out about.

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from Christy today on our call this afternoon. So, yeah, I'll put the, um… PDF.

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For the sovereign letters patent. And it's… the good thing about it.

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is it's not only the salt and other. patent images with everybody's signature on it.

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in thumbprints, it's also got the proof. service, the registered mail.

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Um, white… receipts.

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With the, um… bullet stamp on it, so… So I'll post that in the chat. I yield.

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Thank you, Doug. Yeah, yeah, um, there was also that declaration with… of the flags, and you can see all the different, um.

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uh… in James' line and the different flags from… gosh, I'm trying to remember what year that one was, but.

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When you put all of these different things together, it really… helps to support.

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the bigger picture of what the Federation has to do.

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And what they've been doing in order for us to be able to have the authority and have the status standing and jurisdiction to do what we're doing.

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Um, so I think it's helpful. Yeah, and thank you, Doug.

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Anybody else have a hand up that is not waiting for Anna?

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And also, any word from Anna? Is there anyone on the call that has word from Anna?

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Not sure what's going on. I know she's so swamped right now with everything, um, really bubbling up. I mean, if you guys have been paying attention to.

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the cost of the, um, the rising cost of silver and of gold.

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It's been phenomenal, um, what's going on. So what we're seeing is this devaluing of the U.S. Dollar and this imminent collapse.

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So, um, and thank you for that reminder, Trisha. I see the reminder, um, Tricia on Oregon, to, you know, let's not forget to send.

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Anna, some donations. Um, because while we're in this interim period.

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You know… Um, it could get a little… it could get a little wiggy.

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Um, obviously the… Everyone should have seen.

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The deposits and the GF… GFG accounts. You should have seen that they made up for the difference of those months that they, um, didn't do the deposits.

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But, in terms of, quote, spending, being able to access for spending purposes, that has not been activated just yet.

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So while there's this U.S. Dollar collapse going on, while simultaneously the infrastructure is being built for being able to.

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spend, um… AFD, and also the heritage dollars, you know, the prepaid credit and all of that, um… It's gonna probably be a little bit bumpy.

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So, Anna reminds all of us to be prepared.

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We've got to be prepared for weather, we've got to be prepared for potential food shortages. This is one of the ways that the handlers have, um.

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controlled populations in the past has made food scarce, clean water scarce.

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Um, so we have to just make sure to be self-governing and remind people on your own assemblies.

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To be self-governing and, um… While at the same time building up your local militias.

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In the event that you've got. Uh, folks that may need an extra hand.

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Um, I think we all know of people on our assemblies that are, um, they may have special needs.

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They may have physical impairments or other impairments that make it difficult for them.

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To, uh, get along, so it would be harder in the event of a major emergency.

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So, um, I think that… in addition to… assembling just in general.

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There needs to be contingency plans put in place, um… good old-fashioned phone trees and ways of communicating in case the communication grid goes down and all of that. So, not to be paranoid.

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We don't need to be paranoid or go doomscrolling, but more along the lines of just being smart and being prepared.

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At the end of the day. when things, um… do get challenging.

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people in your own communities are going to be looking for leadership.

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And this is where your, um… organizing locally is going to make a difference. Now, obviously.

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We've got state coordinators on this call. We also have county coordinators on this call.

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And, um, for those… Of you that have a.

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militia commander on your assembly. Um, bravo, congratulations. The California Assembly finally has a candidate that is stepping up to serve in that capacity, and, uh, who will be able to organize the county's.

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etc, but, um, make sure that you take some time on your assemblies to.

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put an emphasis on the militia or, you know, organizing your militias. The courts are obviously important. We need the courts, because people are being harmed every day.

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in other ways, but. let's not overlook the fact that.

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the possibility of emergencies exist, as we're seeing with the.

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I storm and all this other weather manipulation that they're doing out there.

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Sorry, that was my little soapbox moment. Um… All right, I still don't see that Anna has joined us. Um, let me just text her really quick. Has anybody already texted her to see what's going on?

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I… I did… I did text her Michelle. She hasn't responded yet, so…

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Um, not really sure. I know she's been extremely busy. They've had a lot of snow.

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I've been experiencing.

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Um, the other night, when I talked to her, they were digging out from another 3 feet of snow.

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So, um… so yeah, and she's got her hands full.

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Man, oh man, okay. Well… I pray that they are… safe and fine and everything's… At least they'll, uh, pray for them to be safe and warm and have plenty of food, and maybe it's just a communications issue.

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Very well.

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Um… Alright. Well, how about… Does anybody have any wins that they would like to report in?

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Now, don't everybody unmute.

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Hey! We had an ice storm and didn't get any ice. That's a win!

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Okay, that is a win. Good job, Cynthia.

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Fantastic. Any other good news going on around there?

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All right, well, my goodness gracious, had I known that we weren't going to have Anna on, so, um… Early in the night here, um, I would have had a particular training prepared.

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Um… What was that? Oh, Maurice, you're on! By the way, everyone, that's Maurice.

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Your logo?

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Our candidate…

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Oh, sorry, how you doing? I didn't know my camera was on. I'm trying to set it back off, sorry.

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Hi, everybody. Nice to meet everyone.

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Now, your box just got, like, highlighted in green.

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And it popped up on my screen, so…

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Yeah, I guess because my microphone must have cut on, because I call came through, and I'm on my phone, so… I apologize, continue.

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And, yeah, I'm just listening.

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Thank you for being here tonight. Yes, absolutely, please go ahead.

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May I? Hi Michelle, it's Kimberly Watling on Michigan. Nice to talk with all of you this evening.

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Thank you for having us. Um, I did want to just report I've also gone ahead and texted to Anna, um, to see if she's well. Um, I did get a response back through PKTF this afternoon to a question that was sent up, so she is, uh.

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She is, uh, as of this afternoon, I had report… I had report from, uh, having heard from her, so she's doing okay from that, I guess.

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Um, so if that helps any. Um, I also wanted to just share that, um, on Saturday coming, um, Joe Hace is going to be doing a journalism course.

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on Saturday evening, um, to help us if we're having trouble right now with enforcing the things that we're trying to do, that we need to maybe start to expose the things that we have going on. So, um, there is a really great opportunity, I think, for all of us to learn how to do reporting in a way that we can support our courts, we can support our militia, we can support our, um, just generally needing to know.

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And so, um, it's sort of the response at this point to, what do we do when we don't have the enforcement right now? And the response is coming, expose it. Everybody, just expose it. And I was like, well, we don't know how to report, so how do you do that? So, um, this is sort of the response to that at this point, is.

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How can we come together to learn what a valuable report will be? If you have to do it in an emergency, or you need to report to the courts, or, you know, anything social, just news.

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And, uh, so the cool thing is, is the PKTF has newsrooms that have been set up for us. Um, we just have to claim them on the soil, so there's approximately 3,800 newsrooms that have been set up by PKTF for us to be able to start to claim them on our counties.

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And be able to start to expose. So that's some of the news that's going to be coming here, and it's going to be our way that we're going to be able to.

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As men and women really, you know, blast this ourselves, so we're working on communication really hard to get this messaging out, and, um, I've.

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Got some interesting things that I think we've got coming in the pipeline that are going to really be able to have all of us just jumping in and doing this, and uh… The other thing I wanted to say is with regard to a win.

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On Michigan, we did have a woman that had some really good success in some court. Um, it's not really my privilege to be able to share or disclose that right at the moment. I would allow them to do that, but what came out of it that I wanted to share?

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is that in that, um, we were able to start to see the value of needing to assemble on your counties. Uh, we were able to gather men and women that hadn't really known each other yet.

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Um, and they went to court, and they stood there, and I think that that witness, and they all said that, one, they got to pray beforehand together, and that made a difference. They knew it. And the second thing was, is just the accountability of being there. They were trying to scatter to figure out, how do I report this? So some of this is to help us to learn how to.

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be reporters and stand in there on your right and do this. So, um… Just wanted to say, start to get to know each other on your counties, even if you just have coffee together, know who's in your corner if something goes bad, or you have an ice storm without ice, or God forbid you'd had the ice.

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Um, you know, if it's something that you guys can just… we gotta start to know each other, we gotta start to do this. So, just wanted to invite people. If you don't really feel you can assemble, like, in, you know, perfect process, just meet!

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Just meet. Just know who's on your team and your county. And so, thanks for letting me talk about it. I appreciate it, and uh… consider that, um, I believe it's about 7.45 Eastern Time on this coming Saturday. There'll be the, um.

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journalism, um, class that Joe will be doing. So, thank you so much, and I yield.

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Thank you, Kimberly. And you know, that is so awesome that he is doing that. Um… Now, I do have a couple of quick questions. Hopefully, if you don't have the answer, um, let me know if I should reach out to Joe, but…

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All of those different, um, newsrooms that you were talking about.

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Um… you mentioned that those are available for assemblies to claim and use, so in order to claim, do they need to, number one, do they need to attend that class.

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Number two…

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I think we're gonna get some of that information at the class. Um, he had started sharing about this developing, um, through the course of last year, so I think we're going to start to get some of that information on how.

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to do that, and so I… I don't have any more to share with you on that yet, but I suspect on Saturday we'll get some of that information.

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Yeah.

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Great. Okay, and then number two, is that class going to be recorded and distributed by chance, only because, unfortunately.

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I personally can't make it at that time, but… I would love to catch the playback and learn what you guys are doing, and if not, is it gonna… will there be a second opportunity, or…

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From what I comprehend, Michelle, um, this is going to be a little bit of a series, and I suspect on.

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how much we drive the questions of what we are, you know, trying to learn from it will probably, you know, keep, you know, keep a little series going. I don't think it's meant to be something that's an ongoing, but maybe it becomes something that becomes part of militia duty, and that's what we have ongoing to learn. So, who am I to limit that? I don't know exactly.

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Um, so, um, I, uh, I'm sorry I forgot the second part of your question. Could you repeat it?

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Yeah, that if it isn't recorded, will there be future ones? But basically.

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So… Joe has always been one to, uh, record, um, things, so I would be surprised if this was not something that were recorded. So, um, he loves to make sure people are educated, so I would think that, yeah, indeed, it probably is going to have a recording, and uh…

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I, uh, would suspect Louise will make sure that we know where that lands, and maybe there'll be a new page set up for that. So, um, I think Saturday will yield some of the answers you're looking for, so sorry I can't give you all of them, but that's what I've got so far.

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Very helpful. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And in fact, if you happen to have the link handy.

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First Saturday's call, if you could drop that in the chat, I think that would be great.

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I'll be happy to.

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Oh, yeah, and is that… that's open to everybody on all assemblies, or is it, um…

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It is, it's open to everyone, so everyone is welcome to do that, and uh… I hope their system's stable enough to handle what the volume might be coming at them, so if there's a rearrangement of a link, it would probably be for a size of response and a need to adjust a room size. So, uh, stand by on that. Please be patient as the first one gets pulled off, and uh… yeah, it's open for all of us to be able to come and learn how to be, you know, be able to do an integral and honorable report and get the details done swiftly. So, I think it has great merit to really help our courts.

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Really think it has great merit to help our courts, so… Okay, thank you. I yield.

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Awesome. Thank you so, so much. Hopefully that class will be well attended.

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Um… Oh.

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Oh, it was like, ah, psych, sorry, Anna DeSantis. I saw Anna, and I got excited. I thought, oh, yay, Anna's here, but.

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Anna is here, just not the other Anna.

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Go ahead, Doug.

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This is Doug, may I? Yeah, going back to your silver thing at 39 minutes after the hour, I put in the link for Miles Franklin, which is a.

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And, uh, the… Silver to get these days is… what they call junk silver, which is pre-1960.

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5 times. quarters and half dollars.

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And, you know, today, a. Um, a dime is worth.

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almost $12. with the price of silver.

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And junk silver is also the… the kind of silver that's got the least.

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Premium on it, so it's… it's something you can use.

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And, um…

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Doc.

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Also, also the… with respect to, um. getting the word out.

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So the criminal information and correct your records process, silver bullet.

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It's been called is also, um. Had some revisions, it's got the… Sovereign letters patent.

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in there now, which is. Um… You know, something really that.

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Since it has the, um… proof of service in it for the queen and the UN and the.

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might give international settlements, and the Pope and everybody.

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You know, it really shows. you know, proves… so you've got proof of what was done.

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And that, you know, with principles and age doctrine, they're responsible for it.

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And, you know, we've gotten some. feedback from some judges in Michigan that.

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that the… when you put a lien on them.

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ties up the credit rating. So they can't leave loans.

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So the more this is done, the better off we are, and.

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Also, now that's got best and. the Treasury Secretary is the Interim Commissioner of the IRS.

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we can start leaning him. with IRS problems.

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So the, uh… went through all this today on the.

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class with Christy, which is in the, um… Uh, diagram.

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the DMS, and we can't… Put… we can't put the password on a public forum.

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But, um… So, um.

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get ahold of Christy, or… Or me or Michelle or whatever, or your coordinators should have the.

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the link to the DMS. I yield. Any questions?

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Thank you, Doug. I actually do have a question.

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No, we've kind of gone back and forth on this, on this topic before.

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Yeah.

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But I'm not 100% convinced. Regarding the, you know, taking time away from our assembly business to work on the liens, but… I also want to empower that people are called to do different strategies and tactics and.

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work on different projects, so I'm not bringing that up as a… contention or disruption.

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No, I understand, and it's… so the issue is… It's a reason… the de facto is doing what they're doing is because they never had their hand slapped when they get in the cookie jar.

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And so this gives them consequences. And, you know, if.

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And I was talking to Terry about this, and.

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If everybody that owns. Uh, any land.

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in the whole country. sent one of these to their county recorder.

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The land recorder. and defaulted them, and… And, um… put a lien on them, you know, we… it's gonna raise our visibility.

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So there's, you know, until there's consequences, they're not going to change their.

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Behavior, so… so this is actually helping everybody and it's gotten to the point now in Washington state where they're.

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you know, a year, year and a half ago, they were starting to really pay attention.

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to when somebody started using them. the VIN process.

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And, um, you know, one guy got arrested, and the court clerk found out.

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what his status was, and they kicked him out of jail.

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So it's, you know, it's. And Anna has said, this is.

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Well, this is the only thing we can do to give them consequences.

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So it's, you know, it's just… Do the paperwork and.

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you know, $8 with a Colorado Secretary of State.

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For filing the lien. And so you do one mailing to them with returning whatever they sent you.

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With the, uh… Correct your records, and a true bill?

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and 72 hours if they don't. fix the problem, then you… you can.

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Probably, so that's… it's a real simple process now.

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And it, uh, you know, I just revised the criminal information notice of liability.

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And correct your records to include the, um… Sovereign letters patent.

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So… so they… are on notice of who we are, and, you know, it talks about.

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You know, everybody should read the Sovereign Letters patent, because it talks about where the.

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Um, preferred priority creditors and. You know, the whole nine yard that's all in there.

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So, all the way up the pub has been noticed, and principals and agents doctrine.

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It counts, you know, they've all been noticed.

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Okay, thank you, Doug. Yeah, I think at the end of the day, we need to enforce. Anna uses that terminology all the time, that we have to enforce the law.

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And so, I guess what I'm hearing in what you're saying is that this is a form of enforcing.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, it gives them consequences for their actions, otherwise they can just keep doing what they're doing and they won't.

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They don't, you know, why should they stop if they don't get whacked when they do it?

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You know, and. Um… Yeah, and I highly recommend people.

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listen to today's class. Um, I guess I can.

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I guess I'll put the link out for that on Saturday on the roundtable. I'll be part of that, so… Um… And, um, tomorrow it'll probably be on the DMS.

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in the prerequisites folder.

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Okay, super. Thank you.

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I yield. So then, yeah, just real quick.

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So when you get in the DMS, never press the download, because that.

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makes a, um… zip file out of the whole thing, just double-click.

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on the items that you want to. look at.

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Otherwise, it'll take hours to. To download the whole thing.

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So, um. Yeah, the prerequisites folder is so you can come to our… so you know that.

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So you can come to our Thursday class. The Monday classes.

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It's the beginners. Uh, I can put the link to those two classes in the chat.

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I yield.

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Super. Thank you, Doug.

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All right, still no Anna. Well, gosh, guys, what should we do? Um… I know that there are several hands up, but um… Everyone's got questions for Anna. We have 6 hands up.

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Right now, and no, Anna. Let's see here…

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Yep, go ahead.

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Michelle? What about waiting another, uh… What about waiting another 30 minutes or so, and if Anna doesn't show, then just end the call?

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Yeah, I was kind of thinking, um… I mean, unless someone has something to present, I don't know that we should wait 30 minutes. Not that I'm in a hurry or anything like that, I'm not in any kind of…

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Mm-hmm.

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So, Michelle, can I hang up?

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Can I introduce a topic?

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If, um… you know, I know everyone… Everyone… Sure, I would love that. Go ahead, Lisa.

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So, um, Doug had talked about he wanted to hear what a court of record was all about.

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And… and I guess in my… in my research,

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Um, basically, our courts that have documentation are courts of record.

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.000
Right? That there is a record of the proceeding.

00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:18.000
There is supporting documentation that goes with that.

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And, um…

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And that's… and that's really about…

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You know, as I… as I always say, it's about the process, right? It's about…

00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.000
Um, something that is…

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.000
Um, repeatable.

00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.000
It's, um…

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.000
it… the process is identified,

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:43.000
It's documented, um, and it's followed each and every time.

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:49.000
Um, doesn't mean that the contents of the court are necessarily the same.

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Because each case is different.

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And we… and we…

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.000
adjudicate those cases based on…

00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.000
Um, the evidence, the facts, and the evidence that are brought forward.

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There's rare occasions where we're doing

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:09.000
you know, nullification of, say, a de facto law that becomes precedent.

00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.000
But, you know, it's not that our courts do a precedent of,

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.000
Well, you know, we caught you stealing,

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And so, therefore, um, you're gonna serve 30 days in jail for the first offense, right?

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.000
that's not… that's not the precedent that we're talking about.

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Precedent is about when we nullify a law,

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And that applies to all cases that have that same

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Um, character, or that same issue,

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.000
Um, or point of law, that would apply to that.

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.000
Okay?

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.000
Sure, go ahead, Doug.

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:53.000
Lisa, may I? Yeah, so, um… the thing that, you know, Annas… Talked about Courts of Record, I think it was.

00:42:53.000 --> 00:43:01.000
two Mondays ago and she's, um. And I took it to mean.

00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.000
like the court she was talking about during the southern border invasion.

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Where the… Uh, courts of record in the border counties.

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:18.000
had the standing to stop the invasion. And so… and she… at that time, she mentioned that it was.

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:23.000
a justice, a clerk. and two witnesses.

00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:30.000
Could decide a matter with evidence, with facts and evidence.

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.000
So it's not a trial. It's just determining what the facts are, and then.

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:44.000
putting out a decision on the facts. So, my fantasy is it would be.

00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:48.000
Um, you know, for establishing the status and standing of.

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:53.000
American state nationals would be one of the things you could do.

00:43:53.000 --> 00:44:00.000
To, um, bring evidence to their courts that we don't have jurisdiction.

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:07.000
Well, I won't… I won't just… I won't disagree with you, but I don't… at that point, I don't know enough about that.

00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.000
my understanding of a court of record is that there is a record kept.

00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.000
I yield. They don't have jersey.

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.000
And so, um, whether that is…

00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.000
Right.

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.000
you know, whether it's okay to have a…

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:21.000
two-person, or a six-person, or…

00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.000
Uh, 12 plus 1 trial…

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by jury, um, I'm not really sure of that detail.

00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:40.000
Yeah, my impression is that it's not a trial.

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.000
administrative procedure process.

00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.000
It's an establishment of the facts. It's more like a de facto, um…

00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:50.000
Um… Was that declaratory judgment.

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:58.000
type of thing, I believe, so… So, to it, and it's come in and present the facts.

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:05.000
to the court, and the. the justices, yes, this is… These are the facts in this matter, so.

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:15.000
you know, so i.e. You know, that… that… Doug Minnick is an SN.

00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:22.000
And, um… And there was no sovereign delegation of authority for the state of California.

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To, you know, under Rule 19. People could look up Rule 19, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

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Where it says, uh. Um, it talks… it's the rule on Joinder.

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:41.000
So the, um… Anyone could… any person can be joined.

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:47.000
that would not deprive the court of jurisdiction and is subject to process.

00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:59.000
service process. So, um… that lead… and I've got a… I've been trying to get ahold of Bob Locke to… to see if he could elucidate any on that, as to.

00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:06.000
You know, we're not in their jurisdiction, so we're not subject to their process.

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:14.000
So, uh, anyways. That's, you know, so it's, as I say, it's not a trial court, it's just.

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:19.000
Accords that, um… verifies the facts.

00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:23.000
So you don't… you don't need a jury, as I say, it's just.

00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:28.000
Justice, the clerk. which keeps the record.

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.000
Correct.

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And two witnesses, to… to testify to the facts. I yield.

00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.000
So I think Michael… Michael…

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Discovery?

00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:36.000
Did… Michael, did you have something you wanted to weigh in on that?

00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.000
If I…

00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.000
Yeah, I want to… or maybe I'm the wrong Michael.

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.000
No, oh, I meant Michael Bearwald, but that's okay, Mike.

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.000
Oh, wait, go ahead, Mike.

00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:51.000
Oh, go ahead. Yeah, um, we… we often forget about.

00:46:51.000 --> 00:47:00.000
Um, what standing and jurisdiction actually means.

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.000
I've observed that as well, Mike, but did you want to elaborate?

00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:08.000
I'll speak. Oh, I'm sorry, I had another call come in, it kicked me off.

00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:17.000
But, uh, no, we forget about how the. jurisdictional lines get crossed. And so, if we're living men and women on land.

00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:23.000
We… we can't talk to or see those things that are dead. They're just pieces of paper, and.

00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:27.000
And a, you know, taught us about the cat or the picture of the cat kind of thing.

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:33.000
And so, you know, we are more powerful than all of their stuff put together.

00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.000
But we don't have a vessel in order to.

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:43.000
presented properly to them. And the court of record gives us the ability to validate it.

00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:53.000
in uppercase P people. Right? Because now we have the ability to go in to have standing inside the dead jurisdiction.

00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:59.000
Because we have validation. from standing in that dead jurisdiction.

00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:06.000
And so, you know, the 2 or 3 in a sheriff court that says, yeah, that's the information, we gathered it.

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:12.000
And it's true that they made this claim and validate what our claims are.

00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:19.000
And then what we need. Um, from Anna is our ability to, okay, now where do we go stick this?

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:24.000
So, you know, we might be able to go take it to any court that's misbehaving.

00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:32.000
Um, but also. for… to begin our claims process against.

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:41.000
These judges and entities that are dead. And so, we can present to them.

00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:47.000
you know, this court of record, and we can make record against.

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.000
That per… that person or man in their capacity as dead.

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:58.000
But because we know that they're a living man attached to that dead office that they're hiding behind, that we can attach it to both.

00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:03.000
And so, the fear to anybody that gets attached to something like this.

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:12.000
is that it affects both their fake green money and also the real money, the prepaid credit and the actual assets.

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:21.000
So, if we start to threaten those things, that's where we get real… Teeth, because now they can lose everything.

00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:27.000
And so, I think this is… and it's, you know, it's… Mostly just the stamp.

00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:35.000
You know, it's the, oh, this is an official document coming in as a dead piece of paper that we have to process as a dead piece of paper.

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:42.000
We can't ignore it anymore.

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:49.000
There's 3 things with that. One is what you're talking about is a judgment from a foreign court.

00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:55.000
in their rules. So that's what we're providing as a judgment from a foreign court.

00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:07.000
And also the, um… The law of kinds is… I've just put in the, um… the new true bill.

00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.000
So that's there. And the third thing.

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Can't remember spaced it out. Anyways… Um, so that's…

00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.000
Okay, and Michael had something… Michael Bearwald wanted to…

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Thanks, Lisa. Yeah, back in the day, we were taught to use the UPU.

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or, uh, universal postal union.

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.000
Um, that is…

00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.000
a public.

00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:51.000
interface, as opposed to our, um, you know, our post offices here on the land and soil,

00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:58.000
Our public buildings also have offices that are private offices, like the United States Postal Service.

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.000
But we can use the actual

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.000
post office.

00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:11.000
for interfacing with these dead entities. And, um, I agree with Mike, we need to call them out,

00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:16.000
As a living man and the living woman, and their office. And this way,

00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.000
The mail is used as a court of record, and there is a record of it.

00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.000
sent officially through

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.000
international channels.

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:32.000
Are they gonna listen or not? Well, experience will show.

00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:40.000
However, at least we have that court of record available to us, and that's what I've been doing for a long time. And I still like to use it.

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:48.000
Because it is a physical record. You know, it's words on paper. And uh…

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.000
My testimony…

00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:56.000
proves that it is authentic, that I did send it, I make sure I use, uh,

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:08.000
tracking, and I stay out of the USPS, and that way I have my receipts, I have my testimony, and I can interface with these foreign courts.

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:15.000
through that intermediary, even though it is in the AIR jurisdiction. So hopefully that makes sense to everybody.

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:23.000
Um, just wanted to speak a little bit about using the mail as a court of record. Thank you, I yield.

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Yeah, I remember what the third thing was. is the, um… early on in the editing process for the Ella, Anna had me change.

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ASN to lawful state person. So, you're in your persona, your lawful persona, not legal.

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.000
Which is an artificial entity, so anytime you're dealing in an international.

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:58.000
Um, venues, you're dealing as a lawful state person.

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:03.000
Instead of an American state national, that way you're.

00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:08.000
You like talking to like. And they're, um.

00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.000
Yeah, and then in the… True Bill, I cover the law, you know.

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:22.000
say the law of Gaines is a, uh… invalidating cause on their part.

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.000
Yeah, and I… I also think that

00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.000
Real.

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.000
that, in thinking about the various court

00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.000
of record, and, you know, our courts and things.

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.000
of course, you know, we're gonna have…

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:41.000
Very soon, um, our Continental Marshals being commissioned.

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And, um…

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And so, you know, that's gonna give us the international enforcement that we really need.

00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.000
Um, and… and the teeth that's going to say, okay,

00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.000
You know, time's up. This is coming at you now.

00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:59.000
And so, you know, I really think that that's…

00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:04.000
a consideration, um, as we go forward, and…

00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.000
Um, you know,

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:11.000
And we're gonna learn more about that, and what the Continental Marshals

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.000
will bring to the table and provide to our state's assemblies

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:20.000
Uh, in terms of the international, um,

00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:26.000
enforcement of our courts and our court orders and those types of things.

00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:34.000
So, um, I think that's going to be real important, too.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.000
Lisa, may I?

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.000
Sure, go ahead, Michael.

00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:46.000
One thing that's very important, which I forgot to mention, is that you can do a conditional acceptance.

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.000
in your mailing through the UPU.

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.000
And you can still retain

00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.000
staying on the land and soil.

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.000
I do agree with Doug absolutely, uh, and Anna said this multiple times,

00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:03.000
That there are no living people in international jurisdiction.

00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:07.000
You want the lawful person.

00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.000
And that's how we interface.

00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.000
Um, safely without entering into their venues.

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.000
or risking a confrontation with some…

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.000
programmed idiot.

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.000
Full of indoctrination and aggression.

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.000
that just wants to steal our money.

00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:33.000
I yield.

00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:34.000
Okay?

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:35.000
That's alright. Yeah, go ahead, Doug.

00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:41.000
May I? Yeah, so the conditional acceptance is a.

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:45.000
very old process. I was using it 25 years ago.

00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:51.000
And. It actually misses the point.

00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.000
The point is that they have no sovereign delegation of authority.

00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:05.000
So you're… when you do the conditional acceptance, you're saying, well, there may be something here.

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.000
they don't have the authority to do anything, so you've.

00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.000
past that, you know, what's sometimes called a traverse.

00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:18.000
You've, you let that go by so you. you're stopped from going back on it.

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:27.000
So the, you know, and… That was what the silver bullet, the criminal information, notice the liability, and.

00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:33.000
Correcty records was all about was to. bring that up.

00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:40.000
That they, you know, if they have no sovereign delegation of authority, then.

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:50.000
And especially now with the Sovereign letters patent. It's like General Motor… it's like Chevrolet not recognizing General Motors.

00:56:50.000 --> 00:57:00.000
you know, we are their creators. So, and… you know, that really needs to be brought up every time.

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.000
You know, um, today I've also, if you look at.

00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:10.000
the Websters. dictionary for court.

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:17.000
Definitions 1A through E. all have the word sovereign in them.

00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:26.000
So. They're actually impersonating a court if they have no sovereign affiliation of authority.

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:30.000
And if they're using Federal Reserve notes or anything but gold and silver coin.

00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:35.000
then they have no sovereign relationship authority. I yield.

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:41.000
Point, very good point, Doug, thank you.

00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:48.000
Yeah, that's something new. I had never looked up that word in the Webster's Dictionary. Thank you, Doug, I appreciate that education.

00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:49.000
Wonderful.

00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:54.000
It took me until 2 months ago to look it up, so…

00:57:54.000 --> 00:58:03.000
I know some words are so commonplace, we kind of take them for granted. Court was one of those words. I never looked that one up, so thank you.

00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:21.000
Um, but, you know, there's so much good stuff coming out tonight. Um, I love what you were bringing up there, Michael Berwald, about, um, the UPU, and… the postal… you know, the entire postal system itself is a court when it comes to records.

00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:28.000
And so sometimes we think of having to take our documents and bring them into one of their courts, or.

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:34.000
that we have to stand up a court. in order to have… in order to have remedy and justice.

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.000
The fact of the matter is that we don't, but.

00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:47.000
I think where the challenge comes in, it's almost like a… like a… I don't know, like a jousting match or something, or a game of chicken.

00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:55.000
Um, because they… these agencies, kind of like the California Franchise Tax Board, for example, or.

00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:05.000
Um, you know, there's other egregious entities. that harm people, but… They tend to… just ignore.

00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:17.000
And just full steam ahead. You know, there are rebuttals, rebuttals, rebuttals, and they just keep on going and making threats and ignoring the notices. And I think that this is an area where.

00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:23.000
We could certainly use some, um, additional. enforcement power.

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:35.000
Because they have, you know, they've harmed people. They've even harmed people like Terry and Anna, right? Stealing their homes and… doing these horrible things, and so it's that.

00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:44.000
Their threats have… consequences that are causing people harm, and when people are in dis… you know, people in our assemblies.

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:52.000
are in distress at the. idea of losing their homes, or having other, um… you know, quote, you know.

00:59:52.000 --> 01:00:00.000
their paychecks, uh, garnished, etc. Um, that kind of stress is what's… holding people back, I think.

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:08.000
Um, so… I love that you guys are going to be having this roundtable discussion regarding standing up assemblies. I also love.

01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:14.000
the remedy conversation about courts of record. Um, because we do need remedies.

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:19.000
Even while we're standing up our assemblies. You know?

01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.000
just got a note from Anna. She is not going to be able to make it this evening.

01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.000
Oh, and…

01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:25.000
So…

01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:33.000
Darn, doctor. Not that I don't love hanging out with every single one of you, so don't take that the wrong way, okay?

01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:40.000
I just know we were all hearing from Anna tonight.

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:41.000
Michelle, may I?

01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.000
Um… Oh, got it. Yep.

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:44.000
relevant to the points you were just… oh, sorry, go ahead.

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:52.000
Wait… Go ahead, I was like, wait, I thought it was you, Michael, but you weren't lit up in green on my screen, so go ahead.

01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:57.000
My hand was up, um… I think you brought up some very interesting points.

01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.000
Um, regarding sovereignty, we have to remember

01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.000
We are sovereigns in our own right.

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.000
And as Doug pointed out, they aren't.

01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.000
Well, they don't like being challenged.

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:16.000
If I go into one of their private venues, and I claim my rightful, lawful authority,

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.000
Chances are, they're going to kidnap me and throw me in a cage.

01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.000
So that's why I was…

01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:28.000
Speaking about, uh, uh, using the public post office as opposed to their private USPS,

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As a court of record, to interface and communicate with them without putting myself in jeopardy.

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Could you say more about how to access that private post office?

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Um, yeah, it's just in how you address everything and make sure that you use actual posted stamps.

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Instead of letting, uh, letting them…

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put metered mail on there.

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Because that's their private currency.

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in the fiat, you know, in the fiat side of things. That is not our credit, that's just debt.

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Whereas, if we use postal stamps, that's actual lawful money.

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So that's a big thing, and it's also how we characterize ourselves.

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in the return address.

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You know, you may want to use your private, unregistered copyright symbol.

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Um, you certainly want to use an in-care of address.

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If you do feel that you need to use

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their zip code, specify that it's not a zip code, put it in brackets, and call it a postal code, or put

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near postal code.

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full coal and bracket, and then their five numbers or whatever, and then another bracket.

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That… that has to do with the Four Corners Rule.

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When anything is in brackets, it may be excluded from a page. That's why all of their boxes on all of the, uh…

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De facto government forms,

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have boxes, so that they can exclude whatever they want, because it's their paperwork, it's their copyright,

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It's their little company.

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And they're gonna do what they want.

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Wow, Michael. Now, um… There… this is a very… Um, detailed topic that I think.

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many people would benefit from knowing the ins and outs of that. Where did you get your.

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education regarding, um… the private court.

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Listening to people smarter than me.

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Like, when we were told how to do our letters and our declarations and stuff back in the day?

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And just investigating it.

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Yeah, please go ahead, I yield.

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May I, may I?

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Yeah, so, um… at, uh… 16 minutes after the hour, I put a couple of.

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documents in the one at 15 minutes after the hour is the wrong one, so don't look at that.

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But, um… Let me do a share screen here.

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While you're doing that, you could also do the rule-free delivery.

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I actually did that recently, um… You know, for people who have a, quote, W-2 type job, right, where you, um… They have the state form.

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you know, the state tax form and the. Uh, IRS tax form.

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the mail.

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Um, I put in there. Um, thanks to Louise Anthony, right? No contract, etc, and sent it in.

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For… for 2026, and I met the deadline. They have, you know, had to be done before a certain date in January, and I did that.

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And do you know that the payroll company. Completely ignored, also.

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So now I've got to go back and deal with the payroll company, because they ignored the rural delivery.

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They ignored the no contract. And not only did they do that, but they went ahead and they issued.

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Um, the W… Wait, what's the one that they issue in January? Is it the W-4?

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W4…

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Yeah, so they went ahead and issued that and sent off the copy to the IRS. And I'm like, are you kidding me right now?

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So, Michelle, I always recommend that when somebody's sending out

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when they have to do a W-4.

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of course, W-4, you can mark exempt.

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Um, by its instructions, if you read the second paragraph,

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On the instructions of a W-4, it tells you if you… if you didn't have any federal income the year before,

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Yeah.

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And you don't anticipate federal income the year after,

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then you can be exempt, right?

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And… and so, um…

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Right. Mm-hmm.

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I always tell everyone to fill a handwritten form out,

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Even if the payroll company wants you to put that

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Cool.

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in their system electronically, or they put it in the system electronically. You always fill it out by hand, establish your attend.

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And make sure that they put that in your file, right?

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Um, I've got a case where I just, uh, today was…

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Mm-hmm.

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was told that, uh, one of the payroll companies

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Um, got a… a lock-in letter from the IRS for someone.

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And so I wrote an entire rebuttal.

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Um, they were just gonna walk right over the top of her W8BEN.

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And so I helped her write a rebuttal letter today,

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And we're gonna see how it works. And if it does, I'm gonna share it everywhere.

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So, um…

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Uh, we went after it pretty hard.

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in that respect.

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So, um…

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We should know in a couple weeks as to…

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Awesome.

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how it works, or in a week or two, but when you… when… when that happens, and you send that rebuttal letter in,

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I also recommend that you send it to the payroll company, along with your fee schedule.

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And hold them accountable, right?

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Okay.

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Yes. Awesome, thank you for that.

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A reminder about the fee schedule, because I'm working on… I haven't even… well, I'm working on the rebuttal in my brain, I just haven't gotten it out on paper just yet.

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Yeah.

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But thank you for the reminder to include that fee schedule.

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Okay, Doug, you've got your waivable or self-executing true bill up on the screen.

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Yeah, so, um… what Michael was talking about.

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was this right here. The maxims of commercial law.

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Which, in brief, says… A matter must be expressed in order to be resolved.

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And our matters are expressed in the form of an affidavit, so when you say.

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When you sign it under penalty perjury and have two witnesses, or… A… notary?

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On it, that's the form of an affidavit. Okay.

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So, and… They're using Federal Reserve notes, so UCC 1-103 is supplemental provisions of the law.

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So it includes the law merchant. Misrepresentation, fraud, estoppel.

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Principals and agents… Contract, all of that. So…

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Okay, when you send them the criminal Information Notice of Liability and correct your records.

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And with that, you can also return service on whatever they.

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Sent you… Okay, and so they have… 72 hours, you know.

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So, rebut it in kind means… Show me it ain't so.

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Or comply with a 72-hour requirement to correct your records.

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Otherwise, you have dishonored. my presentment.

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And that… that means, you know, so… If they haven't rebutted everything you said.

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in the form of an affidavit under penalty of perjury.

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And they have not. under the, um… Maxims of commerce.

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They have not answered you. They have dishonored.

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what you presented to them. So you have dishonored the criminal information claim.

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Thereby agreed to the following. So if you don't rebut something, you agree by default.

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Hey, Doug, can I ask you a question?

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Sure.

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Yeah, this is Michael again. Um, I know we typically say 72 hours, but don't the actual rules of commerce state 3 business days?

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for our window of rescission to a contract,

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or, um…

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lawful rebuttal, etc.

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Okay, part of… part of the… Are you familiar with UCC 1-309?

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Not as well as I should be, please go ahead.

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Okay, so… So, in normal process.

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you know, you gave him your first notice, was the criminal information.

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Okay, so this is your opportunity to cure. That's the second notice. So you… we gave them an opportunity to cure.

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up here, you know. Correct your records within 72 hours.

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Default judgment of facts and debt shall occur after 72 hours of receipt.

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by my right to accelerate at will. Okay, UCC 1-309 says you have the right to accelerate at will once you've.

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Anytime you feel insecure or. Or whatever. So… when we have included.

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the. Um… Sovereign letters patent.

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in our, um…

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Criminal information. There's evidence.

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that they've been noticed, and the Pope has been noticed.

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And the queen, and… the UN.

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have been noticed since 2015.

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So, if they're still ignoring that notice, then we are… Um… not feeling secure.

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You know, they're just going by everything, okay? So the… Another thing is… Um…

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If they don't have sovereign delegated issue of authority.

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They're not a government. So the ancient law of commercial law.

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Which is the maxim… 10 maxims of commerce apply.

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And no other of your codes that says other, because.

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California Commercial Code is, you know, instead of UCC 1-303, it'd be California Commercial Code.

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1103. They just pull the dash out in California, and other states have.

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you know, um, title… I think one is Title 104.

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Uh, 1103… Something like that. So, but I need to look it up in your state.

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For the commercial code. Anyways… So, if they don't have any sovereign eligation of authority.

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Then there are codes and rules do not apply.

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And they're using Federal Reserve notes, which are commercial paper, so the maxims of commerce apply.

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Just like it says here. The law merchant.

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So, Maximumbers, i.e. The law merchant, and that's 5,000-year-old law, which was restated in the Bible.

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2500, 3,000 years ago.

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So that's, that's… we're telling him here what law we're using.

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And here it says the law of kinds. a B above invalidating cause is.

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They've agreed that the… That they're violating the law of kinds.

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And then, you know. After 72 hours.

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you can put a lien on them. And then they have a conflict of interest if they.

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call you into court, or if they try and do anything.

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They don't have clean hands anymore.

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Any questions on this? from anybody.

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I don't have questions other than, um, I think that.

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it would be really, really great to hear. testimonies of people that have used this with success.

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Almost on the door! Why is it so cumbersome for ya!

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Oh, thank you. Mike, you have a hot mic.

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Doc, I'm just coming in the door. And locking it.

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Let's see, I'm gonna… sorry, I don't mean to mute you, but I'm gonna mute you, okay?

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So the thing is that… I've just… this part of it, the.

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Um…

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Mm-hmm.

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ABCD I've just done this week. So, but this… but… And, you know, and I've… Uh, let me…

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bring up the, uh… criminal information.

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So the… and… So, uh, Patricia on Nevada.

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is gonna go into… Court, um… Tomorrow.

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And so, if you listen to. Um, the recording from today on the… due process call.

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you'll see that, you know, we went over a bunch of things that she can do.

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So, um… You know, number 5 here.

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To therefore are not. alleged agents, and their alleged agents because they have no sovereign delegation of authority.

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duly noticed and bound by the unrebutted. Exhibits A, Declaration of Joint Sovereignty and.

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And the letter's patent.

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be extinguishment order, and C, international proclamation of restoration.

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There may be… thereby… or hereby made part of this presentation.

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Presentment is set forth in full.

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So… We put in evidence.

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before them. the, you know, the fact that we are the.

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Part of what it says in there is that we are the preferred priority creditors.

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And that we're, you know, and the. The Pope and the King and the.

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Bank of International Settlements, we have… we've put in proof.

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I've all been noticed in 2015. So then it comes back to the fact that.

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That we're outside their jurisdiction. And they're… There's a court case that went over on the class today that.

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that says that, oh, actually, no, there's… it's in the, um… Um… postal treaty.

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:21.000
On the section on jurisdiction. It says there that the plaintiff must.

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put proof of jurisdiction on the record. So they have to rebut the Sovereign letter's patent.

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in order for the court to get jurisdiction.

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:41.000
So, they can't… use their rules or codes until.

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That is on the record.

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So we've really boxed them in, and, you know, part of it is.

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is knowing all these pieces and how they fit together.

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And, as I said, I went over. A lot of that today on the call.

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Any other questions? Oh, yeah, one more thing.

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is number 6 here. is the, um… fee schedule.

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So it's all included.

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And the, you know, the 5-page fee schedule, I can't even understand a lot of it, so…

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Go ahead.

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Doug, this Merlin. What do you think about the Sperling on Washington? What do you think about, um, having the recording secretaries add this.

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To, uh, their… Um, documentation when they… record and publish, uh… a living man or woman's paperwork, and then they have it.

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And it's done, you know what I'm saying? High yield.

01:19:54.000 --> 01:20:04.000
Right. Well, the… Um… You know, the, um…

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:17.000
Your election did not pay taxes. should be sent with this.

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You know, and then… and this… and… Um, I was talking with.

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Terry, the… everybody that. owns any land.

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:36.000
should send this to the county recorder. The Land Record Office.

01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:53.000
Because you only have title, you don't have. the, um… You know, so… because U.S. Citizens cannot own property.

01:20:53.000 --> 01:21:01.000
So that's why every. ASN.

01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000
who owns land? has a cause against every.

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:16.000
a cause against their… Their county land recorder.

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:17.000
Go ahead.

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:26.000
Doug, this is Carly on Washington, may I? In that case, would you include, uh, like, up at the top, an RE line regarding parcel numbers, that kind of thing?

01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:33.000
So that they know what it… directly, uh… is tied to? What land?

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:39.000
Yeah. Sure.

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.000
Thank you, Ayield.

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Or if you're doing a court case, you know, you can… do that. But… And notice… Number 2 here… It says, Therefore, so this is, you know, they're not using gold and silver coins.

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:04.000
Therefore, are not alleged incorporated states agents. And hence… alleged chartered corporation.

01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:13.000
their alleged chartered corporations agents. Okay, so that… in order, and Anna went over this.

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9 months ago or so, I can't remember when it was.

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But in order to. Um, charter a corporation, there must be a sovereign entity.

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So the state of states have no sovereign delegation of authority, they have no.

01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:35.000
authority to charter a corporation. They have no capacity to charter a corporation.

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That means that… any corporation that comes.

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after you. that's incorporated in your state.

01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:54.000
Is… Without sovereign delegation of authority.

01:22:54.000 --> 01:23:02.000
And they're… they're gonna be using state law. Which is… Not your jurisdiction.

01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:07.000
So this is… that's how all this… how all this ties back.

01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:11.000
To the… our courts of record, if we can.

01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:17.000
you know, establish with a… a, uh, decision from a foreign court.

01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:25.000
foreign to them, our courts. And we don't need a jury and everything to do that, you're just presenting the evidence to the court.

01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:30.000
So, and that's… that's what Anna was talking about when she was talking about the.

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the border counties. had standing to stop the.

01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:40.000
border invasion a couple years ago.

01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:41.000
Yeah, and Doug, may I, um… So this would be… you're recommending that people send this.

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Yeah, go ahead.

01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:55.000
like, to their… the, uh, Secretary of State… State of State Secretary of State, for example, on their.

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Yeah.

01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:04.000
State. Um… And then, when there's evidence of the delivery of it, and it goes unrebutted.

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That then stands as proof and evidence in the event that you ever need to provide.

01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:18.000
proof that there was an unrebutted. this declaration was completed and done and unrebutted, right?

01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:19.000
Right, so…

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So, I guess what I'm saying is people shouldn't wait for trouble, they should get this on the public record, just as we've done.

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Hour, 1779s, our two witness testimonies. deeds of fans, you know, the assumed name document, the FSIA, etc, right?

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Right.

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Yeah, and notice here where it says, I require.

01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:50.000
1 through 5 above. to be rebutted in kind, and in kind means.

01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:51.000
Hmm.

01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:55.000
in the form of an affidavit. Which, um… you know, I… Which I reiterate down here.

01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:00.000
Technically, they can't do, right? They'll have to… Uh-huh.

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:06.000
Issued in the form of an affidavit. Okay.

01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.000
Mm-hmm.

01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:16.000
um, post-taste substantiate any claim against me. Or, correct your records within 72 hours.

01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:22.000
of your receipt of this presentment. to show my status and.

01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:29.000
as a sovereign land barren exempt from levy. These are all Anna's words here.

01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:33.000
Soverend Landburn, exempt from levy tax per queue, non-combatant.

01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:40.000
And to hold me harmless for all past. present.

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:51.000
or future fictitious claims, or those void. and or those void sovereign delegation of authority.

01:25:51.000 --> 01:26:01.000
Okay, so… Any claims that they have in the past, where they haven't had sovereign delegation of authority, are void.

01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:07.000
Not avoidable, but void. They never were.

01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:15.000
So you can go back with… You know, and… So part of what we do here, you'll notice the.

01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:21.000
Um, and the exhibits here.

01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.000
e and return service. So if they send you a.

01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:31.000
a document. Those of you who are familiar with Eugene Pang's process.

01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:35.000
So you diagonally write in red across it, return service.

01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:41.000
And we put no sovereign delegation of authority. No contract.

01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:45.000
Because they… if the… if you had a contract with them.

01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:54.000
Then they could have jurisdiction. So we're precluding… Either way, so nope, nope.

01:26:54.000 --> 01:27:00.000
because they're in commerce, the. And they don't have sovereign delegation of authority. They could have a contract.

01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:06.000
So we preclude that. We say no sovereign violation of authority.

01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:12.000
no contract, and then you put your. autograph on there.

01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:18.000
And date it.

01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:23.000
And some people… and you can, you know, put your thumb seal.

01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:30.000
On your… on your autograph as well.

01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:31.000
Craig on Ohio, Mayor.

01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:34.000
So that… Yeah, go ahead.

01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.000
Alright, so with this new process,

01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000
We don't have to do 3 notices to lien them.

01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:53.000
No. I went over that… let me go back to the… self-executing drill, Bill.

01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:57.000
Like, with the criminal information claim notice liability, we did…

01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.000
Three separate notices, then we could…

01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.000
Go to the lien process, but it sounds like…

01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:04.000
Don't have to do that now?

01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:26.000
Right.

01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:32.000
Okay, this is your opportunity to cure. So, remember I said before the.

01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:40.000
the criminal information was the first notice.

01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:47.000
And up here, we've given them. you know, this true bill will be waived if you rebut.

01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:51.000
the criminal information or you comply with a 72-hour requirement.

01:28:51.000 --> 01:29:02.000
To correct your records. Alright, so we're giving them the opportunity to cure.

01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:08.000
Default judgment effects. And debt shall occur.

01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:18.000
After 72 hours. by right to accelerate at will.

01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:23.000
So they've… they've had notice of who we are and.

01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:28.000
And everything since. well, actually, 2014.

01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:40.000
With the, um… Um… Final judgment and civil orders notice, but we provided evidence with the.

01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:48.000
You know, with… delivery confirmation.

01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:58.000
With the, um… Sovereign letters patent.

01:29:58.000 --> 01:29:59.000
Great, thank you. Thank you.

01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:06.000
So… so that's… you know, so we're… were… and it… it also says in the.

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:12.000
criminal information. That we're exercising our right to accelerate at will.

01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:20.000
So… so we've told them… in the criminal information, and if they… failed to rebut.

01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:25.000
that fact and the criminal information that they've agreed with.

01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:31.000
And that's rebuttal in the. Form of an affidavit.

01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:42.000
So, sign down under penalty of perjury. You're one of the maxims of law is, um…

01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:51.000
The maxims of commerce is, um… Sacrifice is the measure of credibility.

01:30:51.000 --> 01:31:01.000
So if you're not willing to sacrifice. Uh, being able to… or… being held accountable.

01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:06.000
for. your axe if you commit perjury.

01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:14.000
then you're… Whatever we say has no validity.

01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:19.000
So, and that's… and that's why I said.

01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:23.000
in the, um… criminal information that they must.

01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:30.000
Respond in kind. In the form of an affidavit.

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:38.000
It also says in there that it's… the criminal information is in the manner of, quote, warranto.

01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:47.000
Which means, show me your authority. So if they haven't shown their authority, they have, you know, if they haven't.

01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:53.000
Giving you a… presented you with an affidavit.

01:31:53.000 --> 01:32:05.000
Or in the form of an affidavit showing their sovereign delegation of authority than they have none.

01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:06.000
Yes, thank you.

01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:12.000
Did I answer your questions.

01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:13.000
Yeah.

01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:29.000
Thank you, Doug. Also, you're making me think of something that, um… Louise Anthony did a… like a training a while ago, and… You know, she recorded it and sent it out, but.

01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:38.000
One of the things that really stuck out for me in that training was the, um… There was a hearing.

01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:43.000
Uh, in, you know, in the de facto, there was a congressional hearing.

01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:57.000
in 2013. about, um… It was a… it was, like, the IRS was targeting.

01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:58.000
Yeah, it was the tea party then, I think.

01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:07.000
you know, quote, conservative groups at that time. Yeah, this was one of those, um… where the de facto Congress was doing an investigation into these allegations.

01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:14.000
And one of the things that they said in that committee hearing was that.

01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:32.000
Um… paying taxes is a voluntary thing, right? And so… I wanted to, um… share… Um, you know, share this particular document, I'm actually going to put the link into the chat.

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:40.000
Because it's directly from… Um… It's a, you know.gov.

01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.000
Yeah, but…

01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.000
website. So, when you're done with your… part of the presentation on this… on this document, I want to be able to…

01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:58.000
Yeah, I'd say, again. So this goes back to the… Um… criminal information.

01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:09.000
Mm-hmm.

01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:17.000
Number 2…

01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:23.000
Therefore are not. The alleged incorporated states agents.

01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:28.000
So if you think about it, if there's no.

01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:33.000
sovereign division for the. States.

01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:39.000
then there can't be any sovereign litigation for the Congress.

01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:40.000
Right? That's why I say in the second part.

01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.000
Mm-hmm.

01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:49.000
Incorporated United States of America agents and the alleged.

01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:56.000
incorporated United States agents, or any of those. for here and after alleged agents.

01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:08.000
are operating outside any sovereign dilation of authority with respect to me, a lawful state person, and that's where Anna had me put lawful state person in there.

01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:20.000
So, um… You know, the… If… the de facto states.

01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:28.000
are comprised of United States citizens. they're not sovereign.

01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:35.000
And so they can't delegate any sovereign authority to the United States.

01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:41.000
the Congress doesn't have. can't confer sovereignty.

01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:49.000
to an entity that. Which they don't have themselves.

01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.000
So this is a key point. Is there anybody that.

01:35:51.000 --> 01:36:01.000
has questions about that.

01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:06.000
Yeah, very clearly, um, only a sovereign can grant authority.

01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:15.000
Exactly. How can you delegate authority which you do not possess?

01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:16.000
home and art.

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:17.000
Right.

01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:22.000
Right. So that's, you know, the sovereignty we have was delegated.

01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:27.000
From… James Quinton Bilger.

01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:33.000
His… is, uh.

01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:44.000
Relatives, all the way back to. Um… William the Conqueror.

01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:53.000
Yeah, that point in and of itself, I think, is incredibly important, because not, you know, as our assemblies are growing, not everybody knows that fact.

01:36:53.000 --> 01:37:01.000
There's this unbroken chain of sovereign, um… a familial line.

01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:08.000
All the way back to… You know, the early 1000s, like.

01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:15.000
165 or 1065, or something like that. I forget what year it was, but it was the early 1000s.

01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:21.000
And so that's how come anyone born here. Um, is born free.

01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:22.000
And that's what makes America such a special place, you know?

01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:32.000
Yeah. Yeah, one of the, uh…

01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.000
Thank you, David. I see 1066 AD in the chat. Thank you.

01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:46.000
Yeah, so one of the documents here, the, um… international proclamation, but… of, uh, restoration.

01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:57.000
There's a… I just made it all one PDF, so it wasn't… but there's… There's the case law.

01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:01.000
about their sovereignty, and one of the. I was thinking on that.

01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:07.000
1786. case called Chisholm v. Georgia.

01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:12.000
Where it says that. The people… we the people.

01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:21.000
Do our day in established. This constitution for the United States of America.

01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:27.000
And then that's the quote of the Constitution, then the… case is, you know, here we see the.

01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:37.000
the people. in the right… Um… authority.

01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:45.000
Establish a constitution. which would bind the states.

01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:58.000
Okay, so the… the, um… State governments are bound by the Constitution.

01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:03.000
And… but the state of states we see today.

01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:09.000
use something other than gold and silver coin, a tender repayment of debts.

01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:13.000
But that's a specific… limitation.

01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:14.000
on states that they must use gold and silver, must use nothing but.

01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000
Wow.

01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:26.000
Now, in addition to, but nothing but, no thing but gold and silver coin.

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:32.000
Yeah, that's what's it right here.

01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:43.000
And the, um… case law document also has the Declaration of Independence, where it says that.

01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:50.000
government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:55.000
So they have no consent to use anything but gold and silver coin.

01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:01.000
Tender payment of debts. So therefore, they can have no sovereign delegation of authority.

01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:08.000
So, therefore, the states. The courts, the judges, the attorneys.

01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:18.000
the money are all counterfeit.

01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:23.000
And… and you never have to go past that point.

01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:28.000
You know, if you start arguing codes and things like that, then.

01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:38.000
You know, you've let this one go. And as I said before, you know, if they don't have any sovereign delegation of authority.

01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:43.000
then their codes, and… Um, ruled.

01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:47.000
Their court rules, and anything that comes out of the judge's mouth.

01:40:47.000 --> 01:41:01.000
besides dismissed. There's actually in the, um…

01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:07.000
I can't remember. Anyways, but there's a court case that says that the.

01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:13.000
you know, if… jurisdiction isn't on the record, then the.

01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:21.000
the only thing the judge can do is dismiss the case.

01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:28.000
So, any… anything… else that he says.

01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:38.000
You can send them a true bill for. $10 million.

01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:48.000
But that… but that… time you should have… presented this, you know, return service on your summons.

01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:58.000
to the clerk of the court. And so they've already all defaulted, so they're… none of them has clean hands.

01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:10.000
in order to press forward. And you can… you can say… For whatever they say that's not true, you can say.

01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:20.000
I reject that statement for cause without dishonor. And that's a specific… commercial term where you're not dishonoring this.

01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:31.000
You say, without dishonor, fact's not an evidence.

01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:35.000
And I've actually used that phrase in court after the.

01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:41.000
A judge issued a traffic.

01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:42.000
Please repeat that. Sorry, Doug, would you please repeat that?

01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.000
Citation judgment.

01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:52.000
Certainly. I reject that statement for cause.

01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:01.000
Without dishonor. Facts not in evidence.

01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:08.000
So the. You know, the court case says that the plaintiff, this is in the postal treaty, there's a court case that says.

01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:23.000
The plaintiff must. Put evidence of jurisdiction on the record.

01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:33.000
Any other questions?

01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:34.000
Go ahead.

01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:40.000
May I? Uh, Doug, I just want to throw this on the… Add on to the table.

01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:51.000
Uh, because I think it might be useful. Um, first of all, the… I sat in on a meeting here with one of the Yusufrak groups.

01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:55.000
Um, just to, uh, to learn a little bit about what they're up to.

01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:59.000
And I heard a story on there. So, the first thing they said was.

01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:07.000
That our paperwork, if our paperwork is done correctly, and that would be the four notices where you end up with an estopple.

01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:15.000
And I know that's the legal system's. Uh, terminology. But that becomes the court of record.

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:19.000
And that record needs then to have an order.

01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:30.000
written to the corporations to enact that order. And it was a story told, and it was secondhand or third-hand story. There's apparently a man in.

01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:38.000
Brisbane, so I'm from Terra Australis. who has discovered that there is a Supreme Court of equity.

01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:40.000
Now, you can't look it up on the website.

01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:45.000
Uh, they keep it well hidden, but it's a backdoor into the Supreme Court building.

01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:52.000
And he's uncovered a way, when he runs out of money, he goes and gets himself pulled over in his unregistered automobile.

01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:56.000
head straight around to this Supreme Court of equity.

01:44:56.000 --> 01:45:00.000
And a few days later, he gets a $25,000 put into his bank account.

01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:09.000
So, again, that's a second-hand or third-hand story. But it maybe indicates that there's a way through their Supreme Court of Equity.

01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:16.000
for us to get these. liens and these bills.

01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:21.000
Actioned. And I've suggested to the litigation committee here that.

01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:29.000
They should perhaps research that and see if there's a way whereby when a man or woman's been through the self-governance.

01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:41.000
portion of getting their documents in order. And I love the term you raised earlier about the lawful state person, because we do need to make sure that the jurisdiction is correct on those documents.

01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:47.000
But the litigation committee potentially could act as a grand jury.

01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:54.000
And review the… the evidence, so review the letters and just make sure that they're in the correct jurisdiction, they've been done correctly, there's.

01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:59.000
proof that they've been delivered. And then they would send an order.

01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:08.000
with the copy of the documentation. to the Court of Equity, or to the Attorney General, or whoever it is that would then have to enact it.

01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:16.000
So, I'll just bring that forward as a… a snippet that I've got that might be of benefit.

01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:21.000
Yeah, that kind of ties in with, you know, when Anna went to court on her house.

01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:27.000
She was there by special appearance to collect the bond.

01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.000
Yeah.

01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:32.000
You know, I'm… that's… That's kind of all I know about that. I mean, this guy knows how to.

01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:38.000
Yeah.

01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:39.000
Hmm, yes. using… using the assembly to enforce the… the order.

01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:47.000
press the buttons in the right place. I don't. But… You know…

01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:54.000
off the back of the court record is sort of where I'm coming from, so instead of men and women… going alone, we've got.

01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:55.000
we are assembled. There's a way…

01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:01.000
Right. Yeah, well, that's… That's where the, uh… Court of record can come in.

01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:02.000
Yep. Hmm.

01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:13.000
Our state court of records. To, um… So we got a foreign judgment that they have to recognize.

01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:14.000
You know, and that's why I've been… Trying to get all the Anna for weeks.

01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:18.000
Yes. Yes.

01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:21.000
You know, after she said that, and I said.

01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.000
us know more. But the other… sorry.

01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:30.000
Yeah, so… and I've… you know, I've asked her to… What we need is recipes.

01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:34.000
for how to do this, if she just drops the.

01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:40.000
I'm sure when she said court of record, it went over everybody's head but mine, because.

01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:41.000
I related that to what you said about the border invasion and the counties along the border.

01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:46.000
Hmm.

01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:52.000
had jurisdiction to stop the invasion, but. We're never told how to do that, so.

01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:55.000
Yeah. Um, the other I was going to make was… in relation to sovereignty.

01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:02.000
May I?

01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:09.000
And I'm quite convinced, and… Obviously, there's people on here with much more knowledge than me, but.

01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:15.000
Sovereignty is vested in the people. It doesn't say sovereignty is vested in the man.

01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:21.000
But it's in the people. And God did not grant me sovereignty.

01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:31.000
God created me in His image. The word sovereign, you will not find sovereign, or I've not been able to find sovereign in any.

01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:38.000
law dictionaries, legal dictionaries. Uh, but you will find it in some of the older.

01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:43.000
English dictionaries. sovereign, the creator.

01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:50.000
is sovereign. And it's my… opinion from studying this that.

01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:55.000
We are sovereign. And when we assemble, we create a sovereign body.

01:48:55.000 --> 01:49:00.000
And that's the vested in people. part of it.

01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:06.000
And I think sovereignty is all about. when we come together.

01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:11.000
we have sovereignty, we have the ability to interact with the.

01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:18.000
the corporations. And I sort of stumbled on this idea because I can remember years ago reading in an old.

01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.000
book, and I've been looking for it, I can't find it again now.

01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:27.000
But there was something just to throw… almost a throwaway line, but it said that the.

01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:33.000
Um, the kings and queens had sovereignty. Because the people allowed them.

01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:41.000
And that sort of stuck with me. Again, I'll just throw it on the table, and… I yield, thank you.

01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:47.000
Yeah, so the, um… What was I gonna say?

01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:56.000
The, um…

01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:05.000
Yeah, oh, yeah, there's a… a famous… case in, um… you know, Supreme Court.

01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:14.000
United States Supreme report, um, about a. a Chinese laundry that was.

01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:20.000
administratively kind of wouldn't… San Francisco wouldn't give them any permits.

01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:30.000
So it went all the way to the Supreme Court, and they said… Um… sovereignty is above the law.

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Because it's the source… the law comes from.

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And that would be the soil.

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That's… that's, uh… Yick Wove vs. Hopkins is the.

01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.000
U.S. Supreme Court.

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Mm-hmm. Cool, thank you.

01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:06.000
Yeah, and, you know, it's…

01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:14.000
Kind of on that note, I've… I've seen a lot of… stuff that… that works.

01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:24.000
in their system, but it doesn't. address this root problem.

01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000
you know, that… the guy that goes in and gets the $25,000.

01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:36.000
checking his bank account. He's not addressing the root problem.

01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.000
You know, he's just playing the system by their game.

01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:42.000
That's right, yeah, he's…

01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:49.000
You know, by their rules. But it's… it's not… it's not… letting the… the act… the alleged.

01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:57.000
agents. know what the game really is.

01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:05.000
So that's… that's paramount in everything I do. I don't… I don't just try and get by, I go to the.

01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:12.000
You know, there's nothing more basic than. and sovereign authority, so…

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They don't have it.

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So again, if he moved past that. item, then you've agreed that they do have sovereign authority.

01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:30.000
Yeah, Doug, this is Carly on Washington again, may I?

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Any more questions?

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Uh, let's get… getting back to the nuts and bolts.

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Yeah.

01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:42.000
Um, and I apologize if you already went over this, and I… and I missed it. So, say we've already.

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No.

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uh, leaned the. alleged agents that were sending the true bill to.

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Uh, do you recommend we include the lean report?

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Yeah.

01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:05.000
as an exhibit, or somewhere? in the true bill?

01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:18.000
Um… Never thought of that. Um…

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I was thinking that could go in the exhibit section.

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whammo!

01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:29.000
Well, so when… so the thing is. But when… if you've done a lien on somebody already.

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Then you just amend that lien.

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You know…

01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:43.000
amend the lien. I've been adding. All the paperwork that I've sent in to the court.

01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.000
as exhibits to my lien, so… But I've never told them that I leaned them.

01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:51.000
Right, so…

01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:57.000
Yeah, well, you can… you can do that.

01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:03.000
you know, yeah, you can send a…

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you know, it'd be… It might lean on a little, and no pun intended.

01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:17.000
lean on them a little bit to actually do their job.

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You know, and correct the record.

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So, um… Yeah, you could… Just… all you gotta do is send the… the state and the number of the lien.

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The recording number.

01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:52.000
Yeah, so you can do a, like, a screenshot of the… the home page, or the, yeah, the.

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landing page for the lien.

01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:07.000
Okay, any more questions?

01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:08.000
Yeah.

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May I, Doug? Yeah. That's the lowest. This is maybe a silly question, but, um, I am reading what you got on the screen now. So, the statement of fact, that is point number 1.

01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:26.000
Continues with another statement of fact. Therefore. But then we have.

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an interrogation sentence starting with R naught. But I don't see the question mark ending. Is that because it's at the end of the document?

01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:39.000
No, it's… Well, it's not supposed to have.

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No, it's… because… It's because the document is… Um, all one… there's no periods until the end.

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It's because the dog.

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It's just one big question.

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Well, it's questions and statements. You can see that there's just a period.

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down at the bottom here.

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So it's, you know, it's a standard form. for these kinds of things.

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And…

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Yeah, you want to make… And it would just make it too long, but the.

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the, uh… Usually, you just want to have one.

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statement under each number, or one question under each number.

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Because if they can rebut any part. of a number, then the whole thing is… is wiped, but we're pretty.

01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:54.000
Yeah, so here's, you know, here's where I say, um, in the manner of, quote, warranto.

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That means, show me your authority.

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Okay, thank you, I yield.

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And again. Uh, another thing is… You're reporting a crime.

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And everyone has standing to report a crime. So if somebody else gets arrested.

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You can go in as friend of the court, like Marlene did.

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And, uh… present the fact that there's a crime being committed. They can't shut you up if you're reporting a crime.

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You know, and…

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We can work the, uh… Court of record process, like.

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Thank you.

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I think we can, you know, from what Anna said about the border invasion.

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I believe we can. Then, uh, you know, we're gonna… We're gonna have a whole lot more.

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Cloud and the, um… Sovereign letters patent.

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Again. you know, gives them a notice.

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And it was… It's very important.

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Uh… Number 4. Therefore would not any attempt to address me a lawful state person.

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By any alleged agents. be a criminal act.

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Collins vs. Virginia. to usurp jurisdiction would be treason to the Constitution.

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And 18USC. conspiracy against rights.

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Deprivation of Rights under color of law. Um… And Anna mentioned this a few times, the, um.

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Um… Um, aggravated identity theft.

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I think… I can't remember what 341 is.

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Um… and, uh… 2381, 2382 are treason.

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And, um… Miss prison treason.

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Which means knowing about a treason and. Not doing anything about it.

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Go ahead.

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Doug, I mean, Anna usually refers to, um… You know, the state person, right, that you're referring to here. She doesn't refer to it as a state person, she refers to it as a lawful person, capital L, capital P.

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So I'm wondering… where the lowercase L for lawful, and then uppercase state.

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Where is it?

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And then uppercase P. For love.

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I made a mistake.

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Oh, okay.

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May I, Michelle?

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Yeah, I think it would just be lawful. Yeah, go ahead, Michael.

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A lawful person can operate both in…

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in-state and intrastate, which would be…

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Um, internationally, and also internationally with other countries. So it's a…

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A good one, depending on

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where your case goes, or even who's talking about you, or looking at you.

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Or whatever, it's a declaration.

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That you have capacity to operate, indulgis.

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Yeah, I just… for consistency, um, Anna… routinely uses the term lawful person in this particular type of a context, so I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something or.

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Um, because that uppercase S state. You know… Go ahead, Doug.

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And I fixed it. I fixed it.

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I always like to capitalize, too, because it indicates the definite article.

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Yeah.

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Rather than a, uh, mere description.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and lawful person… Um… It already conveys.

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you know, in the state. It already conveys this international.

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Um… nature.

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Exactly. Like I said, you can operate in all jurisdictions.

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And if you're capitalizing L and P,

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It's… specifically speaking, you are characterizing yourself as that. The definite article.

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rather than just the beer description that you are able to operate in that capacity.

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Mary.

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Right, yep, I'm totally aligned with that. And Anna, does it just a lawful person. She doesn't have the word state in between those two words.

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Well, this is what she told me to put in here.

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Okay, she said to put lawful state person. Okay.

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Yeah.

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All right, I'm glad I asked. Thank you.

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you know, I forgot to capitalize it, so that one was on me.

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No worries.

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You know, it took me 6 times to pass English 101.

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Well, good job for passing. That's the most important part.

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Way to go, Doug!

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All right, any other questions for Doug, you guys?

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Yup, yup. Yeah, you can all listen to the recording of this.

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All right, and just to… oh, go ahead.

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And go over the documents on your own. I am.

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Yep, and… you put those PDFs in the chat. I think it was, um, a quarter past the hour.

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at 6.15 and 6.16, if I'm not mistaken, California time, uh, Pacific time.

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So, um…

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No, not the 15 one, just this… the two that are 16.

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If that makes sense.

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The, uh… The 115 minutes after the hour was an old version that.

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I'm… clicked on the wrong one.

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So it's number 2 and 3 at 16 minutes after the hour.

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Thank you, that's right.

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Okay. All right.

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Hey, Doug, thank you for all your work. Um, I will tell you that your silver bullet document is extremely popular.

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Not only are people using it, but a lot of people are just learning about it and asking about it.

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Um, do you have an editable copy that you can put in the chat that people can just grab?

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like a Word document that's editable or something like that.

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Doug?

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Those are Word documents.

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Alright, thanks. I was just wondering if you could put one in the chat so people who are, you know, just looking at it or hearing about it, or don't have a copy can grab it.

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Yeah, 15 minutes after… pardon me, 16 minutes after the hour.

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Okay, I missed that. Thank you.

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Alright, super. Well, if there are no other questions, shall we wrap it up until next week?

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So, uh, whatever.

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Yeah, what's up?

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Great, Glenn. Hey, nice to have you here, Glenn!

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Sounds good, Michelle.

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All right, everybody, we'll wrap it up, and we'll see you next Thursday. That is going to be… what is that?

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Michelle, how many minutes can you give us just to copy this chat?

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Holy Toledo Batman, that is…

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Oh, take… take your time. We'll just wrap it up. How about, like, 2 minutes, maybe?

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Hey, Michelle, while we're at it,

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Is that enough.

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Yeah, so…

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I was told that I needed to tell all the coordinators

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that, um, each of their states should be looking for a state chief marshal.

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to go into state for their state

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marshal service, okay?

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So, um, they need to be thinking about that.

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Um, the other thing is, is I know that Pennsylvania, so Glenn, I'm doing my job.

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Um, is reminding everyone that

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Uh, we'll have the family reunion and details coming out.

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Um, I believe EventBookings.com

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That is where their event is listed.

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Um, our 250th actual anniversary

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of, um, the United States of America. That's us.

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um, happens on September 9th.

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And so, the Pennsylvania Assembly is hosting, this year the American States Assembly Family Reunion.

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Um, I believe it starts September the 8th.

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Uh, it's going to be somewhere in the, um…

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Uh, Valley Forge area of Pennsylvania.

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Um, they haven't list… they haven't released yet the list of hotels or any of those kinds of things.

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Um, that are in the area, and there's plenty of campgrounds in those areas, too. So if anybody wants to try to camp,

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Um, and reduce their cost a little bit if they've got a camper, or…

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Can Lisa Camper and… and…

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And do that for the time that we're there.

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Um, so it'll run, like, the 8th through the 15th or 16th.

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of September. And, um…

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We'll be probably taking trips into Philadelphia, as well as to Valley Forge.

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Um, to Gettysburg,

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Um, during that week, and trying to… they have other things planned in there, so…

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Um, so I just want to remind everybody, put it on their calendar, start saving your pennies, and…

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We hope to make it a great big vent for our 250th anniversary.

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Only… only if I get double ginger ale, Glenn, thanks.

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Lisa, may I?

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Double ginger ale with no ice cubes, right? That was the order, right?

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No. That's right.

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Those ice cubes are what you gotta watch. Um… The, uh… for those interested, please go on to events booking and.

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Um… get your tickets, they're free. We need to know some kind of, uh, account to go to the hotels.

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We've talked to one hotel already, and they said that.

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Unless we were booking 300 rooms, they wouldn't block anything for us.

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So we… we… we gotta come up with some kind of account.

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Uh, the sooner the better. So, anybody, anywhere.

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go to the events booking that Lisa talked about.

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And, um… put on a… you want 2 tickets?

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You don't want to bring your wife, you want one ticket, whatever it is.

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Um, just let us know you're… you're coming so we can… have a number to go to these hotels with, and… We have a lot of the things that we're looking at to pull together and try to work.

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Um… And I appreciate you guys talking about it on here.

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So, uh, I'll make sure you get a real strong double shot at gender allies.

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Thanks, Glenn.

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Thank you.

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That's awesome.

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And Michelle, I don't… Michelle, I don't know what I'm going to get you yet. Might have to be ah.

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Ma- may I listen?

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uh, double sprite or something.

02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:04.000
Okay, then how about wine?

02:10:04.000 --> 02:10:15.000
I don't drink any high fructose corn syrup, but… We'll figure something out when I'm there. Thank you, Glenn. You're awesome.

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Sure, go ahead, Dolores.

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May I, Michelle quickly, Dolores, yeah. Um. On Michigan, we have a tab on our website called Events, and we are.

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putting this information there with the link. and the QR to make it as easy as possible for the people from Michigan.

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the GA members, this is on our private site, so I don't know if other assemblies are doing that, but if all the assemblies help a little bit in Pennsylvania, I think we can make a wonderful gathering there.

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And we had so much fun!

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I yield. Thank you.

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So…

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That is awesome. Thank you.

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I know, we are ready for another one, aren't we, Lisa?

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Yeah, absolutely, Dor Lawrence.

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You guys have never had a party with me yet, so… be ready.

02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:09.000
That sounds like a challenge.

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That's right.

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That from the guy that doesn't drink at all, right?

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May I, Michelle? This Marlene, Washington.

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Sure, wait, who is that? Sure, Marlene.

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Hey, the other day, um, Carly and I were doing some outreach, and we were looking around at other people's, uh.

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websites, you know, just to… For… for something to do, you know? See what's happening.

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Because it's always fun to see the growth and change, you know?

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Anyways, um, some of the assembly sites are not live.

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And you have to… Uh, log in and put a password in.

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So, you might want to check your, uh, sites.

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And I don't know if it's an IT issue, or if it's… they've.

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Oh.

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Got something clicked, so… Just a heads up, everyone, check your site.

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Thank you, very helpful. Yeah, we'll definitely do that.

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And Doug, did you put your hand back up?

02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:36.000
Doug? Oh, there you go. Okay. All right, did everybody have enough time to grab those, um, attachments?

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Those documents that Doug put in the chat?

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Yes, very good. Thank you, Michelle.

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You're welcome. Thank you, John. best corner ever.

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It's true! You're welcome!

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Thank you, Michelle. Very good!

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He's cornered the market.

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I got it.

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Exactly. All right, everybody, we'll see you next week. Um, that'll be Thursday, February 5th, um, same time, same… Zoom room, and um… alright, everybody, go ye forth and multiply.

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Please check the emails, Michelle, so we get them all.

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I'll…

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Thank you, Michelle.

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Love you! Thank you!

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I will. Thank you, John Russell. Love you too! Thank you.

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Thank you.

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idol.Thank youGood nightGood night

