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All right, good evening, everybody. Today is Thursday, October 9th, 2025, and it's 515 PM, uh, California time. My name is Michelle Ford, I'm the coordinator for the California Assembly.

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And you're tuning in to the Countrywide Coordinator Training Call with Anna Maria Reisinger.

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And it's not on the call as of yet, but we expect her soon.

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And before, um, we get started, is there anybody on the call tonight that feels called to open us up in a prayer?

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All right, hearing then, if it's okay with you guys, I'd like to go ahead and do that.

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All right, please, let's go to the Lord. Dear Heavenly Father, God, Lord, thank you so much for being with us tonight, and for helping to light our path and bring us forward into this movement, Lord.

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There's so much chaos and confusion going on in the world, and we know that in you, we find the truth.

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So thank you for being our rock, and for making it possible for us to come together.

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Because of the advancements of technology and connections, and everyone finding their way to the truth, Lord, we're so grateful to be of service in this incredible mission.

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Lord, we ask that you put your hand on Anna and protect her as she.

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Leads us forward in this, uh, what sometimes feels like an impossible mission, but we know.

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That through your word and through the truth, we will be.

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Uh, we will be successful in this. Great redemption, Lord. Thank you so much for being with us, and for protecting us.

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And may we be fruitful in this lifetime. Thank you, and in Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

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Alrighty, um, oh, wow, there's a lot of people in the waiting room since I started my prayer. Michael, do you want to go ahead and do the bivens?

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Sure, thanks, Michelle. This is Michael on Ohio. I'm not turning on my camera because I'm on my phone, and don't want to get kicked off. It happens.

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Problem.

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Alright, this is the Bivens decision from… the case, Bivens versus six unknown agents, 403 US388 from 1971.

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This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden, and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.

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To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state.

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County, city, or township agencies present. Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the first time?

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Hearing none, is there a response for the second time? Hearing none, is there a response to the Midland's decision for the third time?

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Anyone who's here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States, anyone who's being paid or coerced to be here.

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Was fully disclosed their presence and purpose now, or leave this call. If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.

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Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community?

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Apando responds to this notice of the Divin's decision, the speeding shall now proceed.

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Awesome. Thank you so much, Michael. Now, we do have several hands up. Um, did anyone happen to see if Anna.

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Hopped onto the meeting. If not, I would like to ask, um.

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Debbie Jo, to reiterate. The message that you dropped into the chat at 5-14 California time?

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Um, could you let everybody know a little bit about the town hall, the intention, how often it is, and um… And who's invited?

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Sure, I can do that for everyone. Um, Debbie Joan, Tennessee. The Tennessee Town Hall is invite… is an open invitation to all.

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Nationals, U.S. Citizens, or anybody needing to ask questions. It is led by Continental Chief Paul Pappas and Area 3 Chief.

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Continental Chief Sean Sorensen, and it is on the second and fourth Tuesday.

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Of the month, and so this link never changes, you can keep it, save it.

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And join us. You can also, if you have people that are needing questions answered.

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Bring them to the meeting as well. There's a wealth of knowledge that's there.

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And Michelle came to our last one, so, um… Again, all are welcome.

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Awesome, thank you so much for providing that. It's a great thank you, yeah, for, um.

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Very well.

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People anywhere in your learning journey, whether you're, you know, well-skilled and versed in this.

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Um, in this… Awesomeness, or if you're brand new to this conversation, so…

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Thank you guys for doing that. Um, a big shout out to the Tennessee Assembly.

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Um, also in the chat is, uh, the Ohio Assembly dropped in the.

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D20 traffic record system data, the JSON, it's a dictionary, um.

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And does that mean that Lisa is on the call? Are you here, Lisa?

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Oh, there you are. Okay, I see. Um, Anna's not in the call yet, and I know that you wanted some time to, um, review some materials. Are you prepared? Do you want to do that now?

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I'm ready. I'm ready. So I'm going to share my screen.

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Right?

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Yep, you've got permissions. Go ahead.

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Okay, so I want to share what Ohio has been working on and what we've discovered.

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Um, it's no secret that we've been working on our own

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Um, LRO system for our state and our counties.

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Um, and…

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Uh, anyone that has an IT team and their state desires

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their own LRO system, um…

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can contact us and, uh, we're beginning… we're just about finished. We've got a lot of great ideas. We're doing a lot of integration.

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With this website, but one of the things that we've been particularly challenged with

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is, um, and Ohio has their own credential card printer, so that when the system comes up, it'll be data-driven from our…

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credential card printer.

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Um, is the PDF 417 code that is on the back of your driver's license, and if you scan… if you take your driver's license and you look at it,

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There's a long, kind of funny-looking code on the back of it, and that's what they call the PDF

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417.

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Now, that's what… when law… you have to get a special reader for that. Not every QR reader will read.

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PDF for 17.

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But you can get one, they're free.

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Um, download it to your phone, and then scan the back of your driver's license.

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And you're gonna see some very cryptic codes on the back of it, and you're gonna… it takes you a minute to realize what they're talking about.

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But all of those codes are driven from this particular traffic record system,

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Data dictionary, and it is controlled

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by the American Association of Motor Vehicle

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administrators.

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They're third-party people, okay? But this is where they're controlling everything, and as we began to read

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and learn about what we needed, we discovered

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this chart, it's on page 31.

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I'm gonna speed down here.

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through everything, so that…

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Oops.

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I can show you, it's back here a little bit further.

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Oops, there.

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And what I want you to focus on is the black.

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This is how they gain jurisdiction, and this is how they know they are gaining jurisdiction.

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And if you follow those gray lines, you'll see conviction is one way.

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Driver's license is another.

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Um, testing agency is another.

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Registration.

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Inspection of vehicle

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And…

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We have a live mic.

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Yeah, and Los Bros is the next one. It's just so bright, but it's not a field.

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Suzanne Gephardt, uh, of…

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Yeah.

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All right, and so you've got vehicle

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Okay, but the last way that they gain jurisdiction

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is this vehicle brand designation brand.

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Now, this is something you're going to need to explain to your assemblies going through this process, because

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These are the ways they actually gain jurisdiction. It's not just a driver's license, it's not just

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insurance. It's not just registration of your vehicle.

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This is really important. This vehicle…

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designation or brand.

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Now, you might be thinking, well, yeah, when I register my car, the title has on there that it's a Chevrolet, or…

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You know, a Ford or an Acura, or whatever, it… no. That is not what they're talking about.

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What they're talking about is… is…

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brand in terms of, like, cattle's.

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And if that cattle hasn't been claimed,

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with a particular brand, someone has not claimed it,

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then it's free to claim!

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And they can claim jurisdiction over you because of that.

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So their cattle rustling,

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our cars and our conveyances, okay?

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So, as we discovered this code, we went down and we looked at what the brand code values are.

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And sure enough, here's code 00.

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Which says it's clear.

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There's no brand exists for the vehicle.

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Meaning they can claim jurisdiction.

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Because it's not branded, you know, as a cattle brand.

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Okay? So they put their stamp on you.

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under 00.

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And make you free to claim.

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Okay? So, when we realize this, we went through the rest of the codes,

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And this whole list of codes that's here…

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There's a whole bunch of, and you can… I put it in so you can download it, look at them.

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And this is on page, um, 19 of their guide. It's actually page 38.

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Um,

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As you scroll down here, you'll see lots of different things.

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But nothing for just a plain conveyance.

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Nothing for a private,

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conveyance.

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And so when we realized that, we realized that what we are going to have to do, it stops at 90…

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At 91.

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What we're going to have to do is we're… in order to get them to recognize us,

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We're gonna have to put our own suggestion of a brand in there.

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And we're gonna have to…

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write to them, and say, okay, we want brand 99.

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Brand 99 means…

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private conveyance.

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land jurisdiction.

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Do not stop, do not detain.

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Do not interrogate.

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Okay? It goes a little bit further than that, though, because we also discovered that further down,

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There's another code.

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And you'll see, and you're gonna see where they've got all these little required, and this is…

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This is how they look at our, also, validation of credentials.

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What is required? What is not required? What needs to be included?

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Um, in order to kind of…

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build the bridge between us and them.

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So, as we continue down, there's another…

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In here, and you can see…

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They do know jurisdiction. Jurisdiction code licensing.

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They've got jurisdiction codes for other things.

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And when we get down here, we're gonna see…

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We're even down to the states.

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Here's the jurisdiction code values for states.

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Now, it's international. This whole thing is international, so it applies

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And this is where Canada, Gwen, needs to be listening.

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Um, this applies to Canada.

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As well as it applies to Mexico and the territories, as we discovered. It's all controlled by this American Association

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of motor vehicle administrators.

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And so they're using all of the two-digit state codes

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And what was kind of eye-opening was this bottom here. U.S. territorial Possessions.

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And U.S. government agencies, where they assigned

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different jurisdictions

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To them.

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But there's no land jurisdiction there.

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Which would need to be added.

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In order to have us recognized,

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Um, in terms of…

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their codes.

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No matter what we do, they can claim jurisdiction

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As long as…

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We have any of that, or we're unclaimed in their system.

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Okay. So I'm going to stop sharing for a second. I'm going to reshare something.

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And so…

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We sat down, and we've written, um, a notice and requirement.

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And our hope is, is that you'll find this, this worthy and of value enough

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that each of your states will also adopt this and send this in.

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And push for all 50 states to place this requirement

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on the American Association of Motor Vehicles.

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administrators, as well as

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all of the related departments that have to go with this know this,

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And also educate it, okay?

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This is the great time of the year, because this is when they do all of their changes, their additions, and everything else.

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So you're gonna see where, in the notice, I've got

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in Grossman.

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And I've named him out not only in his private capacity,

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But also, in his…

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Public capacity, his corporate capacity.

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Because that way, it allows any of us in our courts to drag them in to our courts.

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When they don't follow through.

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So I've got him as president and CEO,

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I have the man who acts as chairman of their international board of the American Association of Motor Vehicles.

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I've named out every one of their

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um, board administrators,

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Here, as well.

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And then I've gone into the Ohio, and this is what you would have to do on your state, is look at

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Your Registrar of Motor Vehicles,

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You'll have to look at your Department of Public Safety,

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And often you'll find that the public, um, Department of Public Safety

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And the Highway Patrol are the same.

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Under the same control.

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Um, you're gonna have to look at the Ohio State Highway Patrol.

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Um, or… or your state highway patrol superintendent?

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Or they might call them…

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kernel, or general, or… I don't know what they might call them on your state.

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Your Attorney General, because this is commercial action, and you're going to see that in our notice.

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Director of Ohio Department of Transportation, so your state…

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Department of Transportation.

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Your Secretary of State, who's supposed to be protecting you,

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And isn't… that…

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Ohio, we put in the Ohio House

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Transportation and Public Safety Committee and members.

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Um, that gets it into our…

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Our House of Representative at the state level?

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The executive director for the Ohio Turnpike and Infrastructure Commission.

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And this would be important not only just for your state,

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But if this goes in, remember, this is for all of America, Canada, and Mexico.

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This affects every turnpike

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Every toll road

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every… everything that goes on. And so we've named all of those in this notice for your convenience. Our convenience, too.

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and effectiveness.

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Our Ohio Senate Judiciary Committee and its members

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Because it's going to be something they're gonna have to gnash about in there.

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The Colonel of the Tennessee Highway Patrol.

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And he is actually…

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Um, the law enforcement representative from the state high… all the state highway patrols

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to the American Association of Motor Vehicles.

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Then there's the Highway Safety Division, Prince Edward Islands, Canada.

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Um, the acting director, New York State Thruway.

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Chief Executive Offer, Pennsylvania Turnpike.

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New Jersey Turnpike, North Texas Tollway Authority,

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Florida Turnpike Enterprise?

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What does the word enterprise tell you?

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it's a business.

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Illinois Tollway?

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Indiana toll road concession Company.

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Secretary of Transportation, Massachusetts Department of Transportation, this is their tolling authority.

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Maryland Transportation Authority, that's their tolling authority.

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State road and tollway Authority. That's Georgia.

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Florida Expressway Authority.

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Richmond Metropolitan Transportation Authority, Virginia.

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Delaware Joint Toll Bridge Commission, Delaware.

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Delaware River Port Authority.

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American Roads LLC. There's a private

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corporation.

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Sintra US is a sub-corporation of a Mexican corporation that works out

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um, out of, um, a headquarters,

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a North American headquarters in Chicago.

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Uh, that's most of Texas's… also some of the Texas and the Mexican…

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Tollways.

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Skyway Concession Company of Chicago.

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Um, that's the Skyway going through Chicago.

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A30 Express.

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That's in Quebec, Canada.

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Transport… British Columbia Ministry of Transportation,

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That's, again, British Columbia.

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And then the Secret… U.S. Secretary of Transportation for the United States.

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And the notice reads as follow.

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Request to add code 99 and Jurisdiction code ZZ.

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Recognize ZZ?

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to the D20 Traffic Records System Data Dictionary,

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and data systems, including PDF,

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417 Data Dictionary.

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Response required within 30 days of receipt.

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Notice and requirement.

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This notice and requirement formally requests the addition of Code 99

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and jurisdiction code ZZ.

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to the D20 traffic records system data dictionary, and all associated databases.

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The proposed designation is Code 99.

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Private conveyance. Land jurisdiction do not stop, do not detain, do not interrogate.

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Applicable to declared American state nationals who are not U.S. citizens,

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As evidenced by proper credentials.

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It will be used on private placards and in credentials to

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to indicate proper status.

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Jurisdiction ZZ, private.

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land jurisdiction.

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These codes are applicable to declared American state nationals who are not U.S. citizens as evidenced

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by proper credentials. They will be used on private placards, in credentials,

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And optionally, on declaration of land asset forms,

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Within travel packets to indicate proper status and jurisdiction.

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This designation is necessary to uphold the unobstructed right to travel and private conveyances,

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As affirmed by multiple supreme

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and District Court decisions.

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And foundational principles of Liberty.

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The state of Ohio's authority to regulate motor vehicles is rooted in its power to oversee commerce.

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Not to infringe upon the fundamental right to travel.

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The right to travel is a fundamental right protected by the unanimous Declaration of 1776.

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Treaty of Paris and the Treaty of Versailles.

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As affirmed in Saints v. Roe,

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526 US, 489, the right to travel includes the right to enter and leave states.

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Be treated as a welcome visitor, enjoy equal treatment upon establishing domicile,

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Any regulation that burdens this right must pass strict scrutiny and be narrowly tailored

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to serve a compelling government interest.

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The imposition of tolls, stops, or interrogations

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On non-commercial private travel,

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Absent such justification,

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constitutes an unconstitutional infringement.

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The following cases establish stair decisis.

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Supporting the right of Americans to travel freely and unmolested in their private conveyances.

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Now, I'm not going to read the citation numbers just in the interest of time, but I'm going to read the cases.

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Escobedo versus state. This is California.

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It states, write, a legal right, a constitutional right,

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means right, protected by the law.

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by the Constitution, but government does not create the idea of right.

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or original rights. It acknowledges them.

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Schlechter vs. Tillingsworth.

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Clarified the financial responsibility laws must not infringe on the constitutional right to travel.

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Licensing applies to commercial drivers.

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Not private citizens using conveyances for personal travel.

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Chicago Coach Company vs. City of Chicago.

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Traffic infractions are not crimes.

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Thompson v. Smith.

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Held that the right to travel is a common right, not a privilege granted by the state.

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The state may regulate, but not prohibit travel.

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Traveling is a fundamental right, driving is a liberty.

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Not a licensed-based privilege.

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The court held that the right to travel is a common law right,

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And while the state may regulate,

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Traffic for safety, it cannot convert a right into a privilege.

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by requiring a license for non-commercial use.

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Tech lines versus Danforth.

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Distinguished between commercial transportation and private travel, affirming that regulation applies

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to business use.

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Not personal conveyance.

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Private travel is not subject to the same licensing or oversight.

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Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham.

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With regard particularly to the U.S. Constitution, it is an elementary right secured or protected by that document.

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cannot be overthrown or impaired by any state, police authority.

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Barbarian versus Lucyr.

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A firm that travel is a fundamental right protected by due process.

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The court recognized that automobiles are essential to modern life,

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and personal liberty. The right to operate a motor vehicle, an automobile upon the public streets and highways,

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is not a mere privilege. It is a right of liberty.

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The enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees

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of the federal and state constitutions.

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People vs. Battelle.

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Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law… licensing law,

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which purports to require a license.

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As a prerequisite to exercise of right,

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may ignore the law and engage with impunity and exercise of such right.

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Adams vs. City of Pocatello.

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found that a licensed suspension without fault or hearing violates constitutional protections.

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Traveling is a right protected by due process, and arbitrary enforcement is unlawful.

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Pain versus Massey. Rejected municipal fees and affirmed equal access to public streets.

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Regulation must not arbitrarily restrict movement.

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or discriminate against private travelers.

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Shapiro vs. Thompson.

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held the right to travel between states as a fundamental

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constitutional right. States cannot impose residency requirements or burdens that interfere with this liberty.

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Holland vs. Shackelford.

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affirmed that a Landover has protected right to ingress,

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and egress via public roads.

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obstruction without lawful authority.

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constitutes trespass and violates access rights.

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There can be no question of the right of an automobile owner's

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to occupy and use the public streets of cities.

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or highways in a rural district.

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Liebrecht vs. Crandall.

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The word automobile connotes a pleasure vehicle.

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designed for the transportation of persons on the highway.

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Stavola vs. Palmer clarified that a highway is a public way open to all.

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The court emphasized the distinction between public and private roads, and affirmed the public's right to unobstructed travel.

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So we just told them what we have to tell them, right?

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We're gonna tell them a little bit more.

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The following additions to the AAMVA PDF

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417, Code Dictionary.

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are required.

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Vehicle brand designation.

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A34.1 brand or code, 7 codes, 7 characters,

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private. A39.1, brand or code.

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99.

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A.2.5 brand code values

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Code 99, description of title, Brand.

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private land jurisdiction,

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Do not stop, do not detain or interrogate.

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These should be the default codes used during titling for all conveyances not sold as fleet,

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vehicles to assign any other brand code explicit evidence of commercial use.

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Collision, accident, or other qualifying event

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is required.

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jurisdiction. A23.1 Jurisdiction Code.

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Two characters. ZZ.

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A23.2.

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jurisdiction name,

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private land jurisdiction.

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Examples of private conveyances non-exhaustive.

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This is a non-exhaustive list of examples of conveyances used

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For non-commercial private travel.

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Personal automobiles, pickup trucks, motorcycles, trailers, when not used commercially.

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Bicycles, golf carts, horse-drawn carriages. That's a shout-out to our Amish community as well.

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Recreational vehicles, when not used commercially.

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Off-road vehicles used on private land or for pro-personal conveyance.

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Canoes, kayaks, private jet skis, boats,

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Used for private travel.

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Electric scooters or mobility devices.

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farm utility vehicles used for personal transport.

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requirement. The Ohio Assembly hereby requires the AAMVA2,

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1. Add Code 99 and jurisdiction Z code ZZ.

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To the D20 and PDF417 Code Dictionary Traffic Records System Data Dictionary.

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2. Ensure Code 99 and Code ZZ.

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are recognized across all member jurisdictions.

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3. Include code 99 and Code ZZ in all law enforcement databases,

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And traffic systems, including toll road systems.

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4. Implement protocols to prevent unlawful stops.

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Detentions or interrogations

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I've declared Americans national state nationals.

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traveling and private conveyances.

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Report how and in what timeframe these protocols will be implemented.

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5. Recognize placards bearing Code 99.

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or herein, 99.

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Do not stop, do not detain, do not interrogate. In all instances,

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Not involving harm to people or property.

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6. The Ohio Assembly asserts that any tolling mechanism applied to private conveyances

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of declared American, state, national,

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constitutes a form of compelled

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commercial participation.

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As such, it violates the principle that the state may not convert a right into a privilege. Murdoch v. Pennsylvania.

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Nor impose a fee for the enjoyment of a constitutional right.

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Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections.

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Toll operators must recognize and provide pass-through service at no cost.

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7. Acknowledge receipt of this notice and provide a written response

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Within 30 calendar days of the date above.

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Failure to respond or act may be construed as willful negligence.

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may trigger further lawful remedy under the Clearfield Doctrine slash Chevron deference.

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And be considered tacit after

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acquiescence. At no time has the superior concurrent general jurisdiction

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of land law been abandoned or surrendered.

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Recognize that we are communicating to dispel all controversy regarding the fundamental right

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to travel.

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Notice to principles, notice to agents, notice to agents.

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Notice to principles. And then it goes on to have signature blocks.

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Um, at the bottom.

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So, um, I would be happy to take any questions.

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Um, and…

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Um, go from there.

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It was a dog on San Diego. Yeah, so a couple things, um…

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Go ahead, Doug.

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The maritime equivalent of motor vehicle is vessel. So you might want to put that in there.

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.000
Okay?

00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.000
Right? Okay.

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A boat is not a vessel. So it's a… it's a vessel for commerce.

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Right.

00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:04.000
Also, the, um… you're giving credence to the fact that the states.

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Uh, lawful. So we need to… you know, they don't use gold and silver coins, so they have no sovereign delegation of authority.

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So… so they're… and anybody who takes jurisdiction without. Um, anybody who usurps jurisdiction, according to.

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Cones vs. Virginia. Is treasonous.

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So, we might want our fortunate.

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:42.000
Engaged in… uh, treasonous…

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Conspiracy. By the way, they're… they're wording things, and the failure to recognize the sovereigns on America.

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:58.000
So, Doug, one of the reasons we didn't include that was… is the adoption of Florida and Texas, and

00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.000
And there are a few, about 6 different states that are pending.

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:07.000
Gold and silver as, um…

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As currency, which…

00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:16.000
No. No. You know, it's… a state can use nothing but gold and silver.

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:21.000
If they use anything but. They are not a constitutional state.

00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.000
Okay. All right.

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.000
It's not… it's not a and, it's an. Only.

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.000
All right, thank you.

00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.000
Yep.

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.000
Sure, go ahead, Michelle.

00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:44.000
Yep, Maya, Lisa? Um, first of all, this is really great work, so thank you for putting this all together, especially, um, all in one place, those great traffic, um, cases.

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:54.000
The thing that really strikes me is this is an… they're called an American association.

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:55.000
They do.

00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:06.000
And associations have no… they have no standing. Um, at all, you know? So, I love where you're going with this, but what I'm wondering is, um, and it looks like Anna's on the call too, so this really could be a question for her, too.

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:16.000
Because they're only an association, and they have no standing. I see them as an educational organization, bringing their.

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:22.000
Rhetoric to, um… you know, certain, quote, motor vehicle departments throughout.

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All of the states. Um… But they don't have any standing to implement.

00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:35.000
Any… any rules whatsoever. So, with that being said, what I'm wondering is if…

00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:46.000
We issue notice to them to be included in their. In their writings, are we then asking to, um…

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.000
Be associated with them? In other words, are we granting them?

00:35:51.000 --> 00:36:01.000
A certain amount of jurisdiction because of, um. Requesting that we… have, you know, co… we implement a code.

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99, and then, um, the recognition of the jurisdiction. Zz, so I would love to know if, while you guys were putting this together, if that was.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.000
If that was researched, um…

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:18.000
So we did… we did talk about that and research and do a little research in that, Michelle.

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.000
And… and we know that

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that at some point, we have to…

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We have to get them to acknowledge us.

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And this… this makes them acknowledge us in a large way.

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.000
And… and it gives them notice, basically, as well, that they are…

00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.000
Um…

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that they are, uh, basically…

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Abrogating their duty within the constitutional… our constitutional rights as well.

00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:54.000
So, in a kind of a way that you don't have to go out and necessarily… maybe you do.

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.000
This is first notice, so we'll see what we get back in the reaction, right?

00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.000
And we can come back and hammer them

00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.000
You know, with those constitutional…

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.000
points, as Doug put up there.

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:11.000
Um, that… that they are, they're… they…

00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:15.000
They may be the body that recommends and pulls together as their jurisdictions.

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But we want our jurisdiction included in that, too.

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:24.000
Okay? And that we're… we're making sure that our jurisdiction

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.000
is called out, and that our jurisdiction comes up

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.000
And they leave us, pardon my French, the hell alone.

00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.000
Okay?

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.000
Yes, exactly.

00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:38.000
Exactly. Okay.

00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:47.000
I like that part. Nobody could argue with that. Now, you did have, um, you had an open-mouth emoji, um, Danica, uh, Danica and or Mike.

00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:55.000
Yeah, okay, so… First of all, thank you so much for putting all that together. I get…

00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:01.000
What you're doing… what you're doing there, and um… and my question is really a mix.

00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:10.000
With, uh, Michelle and with Doug, because, number one, um… Well, gosh, there's so many things.

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:25.000
Um, so lately, um, Doug and Christy have been doing this silver bullet, and I feel like, no matter what, if all these people are gonna be noticed, I feel like it's an opportunity for all our assemblies, um, or for Ohio.

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:31.000
To create a silver bullet on behalf of the Assembly as well, to include in the package.

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:39.000
As well as, you know, a possible true bill, because instead of doing this 1-2-3 notice like we've always been doing.

00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:55.000
They've been noticed for decades, and um… So, I really like the approach, what Christy and Doug have been teaching on Mondays and Thursdays, and I think that would be a real opportunity to include a silver bullet.

00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.000
Um, because it acknowledges exactly what Doug is saying, and which also.

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:06.000
Parlays into what Michelle is saying. What I'm… what I'm hearing is, um.

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:14.000
You know, but I also get. Yeah, we could still be included, but it's almost like, um…

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:20.000
Here's these criminals and pirates. And then we're saying, like, oh, can we be a part of your…

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.000
No, I'm not asking permission to be a part of that. Don't… don't misconstrue.

00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.000
Which I get, I get.

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:26.000
what's in there? Because…

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:38.000
Well, even maybe… Maybe just to call it an order instead of a request, just because we don't need to ask them. We are noticing them, but also.

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Putting that silver bullet, if you're not familiar with it yet, it is… it's a fantastic way.

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I'm glad.

00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.000
So these students, like, cohorts.

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.000
That, um, if they are… If they are not… there's a hot mic, there's a hot mic. If there…

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Suzanne, you keep unmuting. Please be careful. Thank you.

00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:13.000
If they're not… if they're doing crimes, which they all are, all the whole entire… that whole… I looked into that organization a couple years ago. It's like 7 board members. I mean, it is so bad. That… there is no way that they have… that is an overreach.

00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.000
It is high, high criminality. And so, to put… to put the silver bullet.

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:23.000
Oh, that was a long day. He wanted, um, me to take me now to Guadalupe.

00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:24.000
Oh my gosh, sorry. I might have to put Suzanne in the waiting room, sorry about that, you guys.

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:32.000
To put the silver bullet… To put this silver bullet and…

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Which, it's not called a silver bullet, it's just the shorter name.

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Yes. Yes, yes.

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And… yeah, Danica? I can talk to Lisa offline, or we can talk to Lisa offline, let Anna get in here. I yield.

00:40:43.000 --> 00:41:03.000
That I agree, and fantastic work, and also, I think even putting it out from the Federation, because all 50 states are… I am 100% sure we're all in agreement on this. So maybe even having it come through the Federation.

00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:08.000
Thank you. That's about half the body of travel law that I actually have.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.000
But it was the most apropos to what we wanted to do.

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to get the ball rolling, basically.

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And to gain the recognition.

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And make no mistake, we might have been polite in our first statement of, we are requesting.

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And after that, it was required.

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So, um…

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.000
So don't… don't misconstrue that. That's a politeness of…

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of, basically, political speak.

00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.000
At the beginning. Um, and…

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The finish is the requirement.

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and the reporting. Okay.

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:54.000
Awesome. Thank you, Lisa. Um, we do have Anna here, and um… I… although you have the floor right now, Lisa, I just want to make sure that.

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You know, it's… it's fine.

00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.000
I can put that notice in the chat.

00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.000
Go ahead and welcome Anna, and also, um…

00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.000
If everybody would like to be able to download that.

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:08.000
Um, it is in a Word document, and then

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The only thing is, is we need to be requesting the very same thing.

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:17.000
Okay, that's why I bring it to you all, is that we have to be unanimous on that.

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In terms of what we're asking,

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for them to recognize.

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Okay?

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:34.000
Fantastic. Thank you so much, Lisa. All right, welcome, Anna!

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.000
Hi, how's everybody tonight?

00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:45.000
Hello, hello! Hi, we're doing great! We just learned about the, uh, an amazing document that Lisa and the Ohio Assembly put together in regards to.

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:58.000
Noticing this, um, agency, the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, they did a deep dive on their, um, definitions and their rules and their little dictionary.

00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:07.000
And drafted, um… a notice letting them know that they need to acknowledge our jurisdiction and acknowledge.

00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:17.000
Our, you know, ZZ, uh, tags and all of that, so… Would absolutely love your feedback.

00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:24.000
Well, the right to travel is inherent and endemic and original, and there's nothing they can do about that.

00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:34.000
Um, it's very well settled in the law. And what's been lacking are the people with standing to use the actual public law.

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:41.000
And uphold the public law. So, every single one of you needs to be thinking in terms of.

00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:47.000
Gee, what can I do to get our drill assembly set up and rocking?

00:43:47.000 --> 00:44:00.000
It's crucial. It's what allows you to give your employees. Their instructions, instead of having them lord it over you.

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:07.000
Absolutely. There, you heard it, everybody. Enough bandying about, we need to stand up our courts.

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And, um, use, uh, the Ohio Assembly's. Example.

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Right. I mean… an awful lot of the complaints and things that people hassle with are motor vehicle related, and we don't even drive motor vehicles. If you look up the.

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:31.000
Um, meaning of motor vehicle, you'll realize very quickly that you don't drive one.

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You'll also realize you're not a driver. So, you know…

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This is just another scam to make revenue.

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That's exactly what it is. Um, they take everyday words, legalize them.

00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:58.000
Through their legislation process, and then they turn everything into policies and procedures and charge everybody for things that.

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:05.000
Occur naturally, and we can do freely, so… Mm-hmm.

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:14.000
Bunch of scam artists, criminals. And now that we have that firmly in view and understand how and why.

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.000
There's nothing to keep us. From taking action.

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To object to this, and to resist it in all lawful manner.

00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:34.000
Amen. By the way, you know, Danica took your article 5527 and 5528.

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And, um, put a video together highlighting the call to action, you know? She… she… And, uh, she and Kitty went… Line by line, and highlighted all of the different things, and did a great educational.

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:54.000
Opportunity to help dissect those two articles and. Guide people on what needs to be done.

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So…

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Well, hopefully more people will get involved, and as they do, there will be those that have the energy to spend on the driving issue.

00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:11.000
Because it's been a… a huge problem for a lot of years, for a lot of people.

00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:20.000
Yeah. Well, people like Lisa and others are taking a stand and leading by example and showing others, um.

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.000
You know, in addition to what you've been doing all these years.

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:29.000
And, um, giving us. Great resources that we can use.

00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.000
Um, I think a lot of times people feel stuck, they don't know where to start.

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:40.000
And these are great starts, taking on one… one avenue or one area at a time.

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.000
Well, and wrapping your head around it. I mean, it's a lot to take in.

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:48.000
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:54.000
Yeah, it's like, you have to get it here first before you can take action out in the world, right?

00:46:54.000 --> 00:47:04.000
Yes, and I think that… the, uh… The topics that we're… we're addressing are really key topics.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:14.000
Um, you know, who has jurisdiction? Uh, what is the… actual meaning of these different names and…

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:21.000
Styles of names. And… how are we connected or not connected at all?

00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:29.000
To these foreign entities on our shores. No?

00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:36.000
Uh, there are people who are federal citizens. I don't happen to be one of them.

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And yet I need to know that they exist. And they need to know that I exist.

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And we all need to get along. To make the entire country work the way it should.

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:55.000
So, anyway, um… Good thoughts on the silver bullet?

00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:01.000
Good thoughts on the, um… the travel issues.

00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:09.000
I can't think of anything that has… uh, terrorized and irritated the living people more than.

00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:19.000
The, uh, travel issues and the highway patrol. Uh, except perhaps the Internal Revenue Service.

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:27.000
Well, good news that however many got laid off recently, so I think it was yesterday or today.

00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.000
Now, 35,000.

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:34.000
You know. A thousand agents are, you know, poof, goodbye!

00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:43.000
Exactly. Yeah, so, um… I just wanted to drop in, let everybody know that, yeah, I'm alive.

00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.000
I'm… I'm here, I'm doing… Everything I need to do.

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:54.000
Um, yesterday was kind of an emotional day, because it would have been Jem's 84th birthday.

00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:03.000
We got together, uh, as a family and just kind of commiserated over dinner last night, and… That was very comforting.

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:09.000
And so, uh, yeah, we're… We're continuing our healing process.

00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:16.000
Uh, the, um… issues that are being brought forward on multiple fronts.

00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:24.000
Regarding, uh, the… kinds of claims that are being made as quote-unquote property taxes.

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:30.000
Uh, we are taking that up in sort of a three-ponged strategy.

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And, uh, our ultimate remedy is with the Army. It always has been since the 1860s.

00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:45.000
Um, and it is the U.S. Army Provost Marshals. Who are supposed to protect us.

00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:55.000
From illegal confiscations. It's called the… well, there's actually an illegal takings clause in the federal constitutions.

00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:05.000
That prevents them from doing this kind of thing. So, we will be attacking on several different fronts, all at once.

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:11.000
To finally resolve this issue of. Who owns the land, and who, therefore, owns.

00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:18.000
Um, the asset… Uh, the physical asset, as opposed to.

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:27.000
All these intellectual assets that have been developed. In a sort of scam sense.

00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:34.000
Uh, and then used to latch upon actual physical land assets.

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:39.000
So we're going after that, and… I think we may have an entire.

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Tax, uh… I guess you would call it a task force.

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:55.000
To develop the materials and the rationale behind completely obliterating. Uh, mortgages, which are a form of tax.

00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:02.000
Different kinds of, uh, municipal taxes. Franchise taxes.

00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:10.000
Um, federal income taxes. All these things should not exist.

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:17.000
And so, um, we are getting ready to. Mount a campaign, if you will.

00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:24.000
That explains in a very explicit way. Exactly why.

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:31.000
There are no taxes. You know, why are we each tax-exempt from levy.

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:39.000
And tax pursuits. Because it's our land.

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:40.000
All right?

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.000
Well, yeah, and the creator's always greater than the creation.

00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:56.000
Yes, ma'am, it is, and this whole idea that. Um, they can just come along and look over the fence and decide that they're going to call our property by.

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:01.000
Their name. Uh, and that they're going to donate their.

00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:10.000
Copyright interest in their name for a piece of property. Uh, that consists of a road easement.

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.000
And nothing else, and then use that by making false claims in commerce.

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:23.000
As a latch, a way to latch upon. Uh, your property, and defraud you out of it.

00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:27.000
Those days are coming to a screeching halt. And so, you will live to see it.

00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:31.000
Praise God.

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:38.000
Uh, I believe very, very soon. Within… You know, a couple, two, three days.

00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:43.000
You should see some really… interesting, major changes happen.

00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:53.000
Regarding taxes in general, and federal taxes in. The greater, um, spectrum of… of…

00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:59.000
Federal taxes, because. Remember, all of these things are federal.

00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:08.000
Uh, the state-of-state organizations are federal in nature. And so, um…

00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:15.000
Federal taxes are something that. Should only be applied to federal citizens.

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:26.000
And I are not one. And neither are you. You will… Willfully made the choice, you've looked at the pros and cons, and you have decided which.

00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:33.000
Political status best suits you. And as we bring this forward.

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:39.000
It's going to have a revolutionary effect. In that more people are going to be impacted.

00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:45.000
And they are going to wake up and wonder, well, gee, why was I paying a mortgage for 25 years?

00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:52.000
If I didn't actually owe the org… the, um, mortgage on it, and if it was actually owed by the Queen.

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:56.000
Who had secretively. Uh, and in breach of trust.

00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:02.000
Latched onto my property. Okay.

00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:07.000
There are all sorts of moments of de Numont like that, where you're just left standing.

00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:14.000
Mouth open, and then you're going. How could I have missed that, you know?

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.000
Yeah.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:23.000
Um, these are things that… are happening, and they're going to continue to happen on an increasing basis.

00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:27.000
Where people just wake up out of the blue one day and go.

00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:33.000
Wait a minute, I'm not living in a city. Why am I paying SUNY taxes?

00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:40.000
Things like that. So, it's happening, it's happening all at once.

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:47.000
Across multiple agencies. Uh, and multiple levels of the government.

00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.000
So, it's all pretty… exciting, and it's all pretty exhausting.

00:54:52.000 --> 00:55:00.000
And it starts at before 6 o'clock in the morning. So, if I'm kind of, um…

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.000
Yeah, I was 4 o'clock this morning, I put in 12 hours of steady labor here.

00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:16.000
Uh, if I'm a little bit groggy and tired. You know why.

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.000
I was, yes. I admit it. I'm having a reunion!

00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:24.000
Yeah. Well, and knowing you, you were probably up till all hours of the night last night, too, so… Well, do you want to…

00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:25.000
You are!

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:31.000
I'm having a reunion! Uh, yeah, some of the great old men of the, uh, the movement have been released from prison.

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:32.000
Woo! Oh my gosh, fantastic!

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:39.000
Yes, yes. Yeah, so some of our lead researchers, people like Winston Trout.

00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:44.000
Who were jailed over trivialities. Have been really snow.

00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:50.000
Get out of here. That should be headline news. That's so fantastic.

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:51.000
It is!

00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:57.000
Wow, so when is this reunion, and can we all come? That's the burning question!

00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:07.000
Well, all this stuff is happening. And… entire realms of the government are being restructured.

00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:19.000
As we speak. So, um… The things that you see that are happening, like… like me and this phony eviction.

00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:27.000
All this stuff is taking place. With this gigantic background in motion in the back.

00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:34.000
There's this huge change going on. And they're… they're basically using all of these.

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.000
Sort of distractions. To keep people from seeing what's happening.

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.000
Mm-hmm. Yeah, smoking, yeah.

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:48.000
And, yeah, smoke and mirrors, they're trying to cover up. And keep your attention deflected.

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.000
And one of the things you're going to find is that your attention.

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:59.000
Is fundamentally important. And fundamentally valuable.

00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:07.000
So if they have you distracted over here. Uh, watching what happens with one eviction.

00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:11.000
Uh, they keep you from noticing that over here in this other.

00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:23.000
Part of the world, or this other part of creation. That there is this huge, huge, huge change. The geopolitical change.

00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:29.000
Throughout the entire world. Giving back the, um…

00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:34.000
The proper status. To living people.

00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:35.000
Awesome.

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:46.000
Okay, so yeah, you are… You're witnessing history, but you don't even know that it's happening.

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.000
Okay, there are people out here like me saying, hey, look.

00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:56.000
This is happening! And it's not going to be long before it affects you.

00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:05.000
And so I want your attention to… Turn away from all of the… the kind of sidebar issues and the fear-mongering, and…

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.000
And all of the false claims and silliness that's going on.

00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:15.000
And keep fixed on what actually. Matters. What matters to you?

00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:21.000
Well, you know… Having money that's worth something matters to you.

00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:28.000
Uh, having a secure home. And having secure property rights. That matters to you.

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:36.000
Uh, having a system of law that's just and fair. That matters. I mean, there are a lot of things that.

00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:43.000
Profoundly do matter that are being taken up. But in the background.

00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:48.000
And I guess the one thing I would really recommend to people right now.

00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:54.000
Is to kind of look around. At all of the stuff that's being.

00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.000
Kind of offered to drag your attention away from what's important to you.

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:08.000
And say no, you know? We don't care what kind of politics is going on in Washington, D.C.

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:18.000
We don't care, um, if Antifa is. Defined as a… uh, terrorist organization.

00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:24.000
Strictly speaking, we need to be aware that the Insurrection Act has been invoked.

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:33.000
But even that isn't something that… should grab our attention and hold it for any undue amount of time.

00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:39.000
Because what we should really be concentrating on. It's what we want.

00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:48.000
You know, what matters to us? What kind of world do we want to live in?

00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:53.000
Because this is where we're making the future in the present.

00:59:53.000 --> 01:00:01.000
Okay, we've only gotten now, right? There's no other time. The past is the past, and the future isn't here yet, so what have we got?

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.000
We've got now, and we've got our own ability to think and to decide what we want.

01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:14.000
All right, so this is precious. This is when we get to decide the future.

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:21.000
Okay, the president is our fulcrum. It's… it's where we decide the future.

01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:28.000
And what we're going to experience. So we shouldn't be wasting our attention, our precious attention and focus.

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:35.000
On things that really don't affect us. Or things that we can't do anything about.

01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:40.000
Things that are just out there to kind of waste our time.

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:45.000
And waste our attention. And keep us from focusing in.

01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.000
On what matters to us. And so, you know, again, I'll make that plea.

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.000
Does everybody stop a moment. And think, okay.

01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:03.000
Now, what's nearest and dearest to my heart of hearts? What really matters, as opposed to.

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:10.000
All these sort of political and social. Things that can distract us.

01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.000
Now, we want to keep our eye on the prize, and.

01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:20.000
Our feet on the ground and our heads screwed on, our Shinola sensors on high.

01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:26.000
And, uh, just be very, kind of. Pragmatic about it, you know? Just the facts, ma'am.

01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:35.000
Uh, who are you? Well, Jay, turns out that you. Are the landlord, you're the land baron, you're the…

01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:42.000
The living man, you are the one that. All this stuff belongs to.

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:47.000
Who knew, right? But focus on that.

01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:56.000
Be sure of that. Know that! Um, one of the things we did this week was we published the, um, definition of the persons.

01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:06.000
That the Vatican Transfery Court provided. Now, the Vatican made up all of these different names, all these different persons.

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:11.000
Uh, they set in place the different styles of the names.

01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:18.000
There is no way… that anybody can… argue with it, or say anything about it.

01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:26.000
Because they are the creators of this entire. Nomenclature system.

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:27.000
Yeah, all these identities, right? They're… they're… Identity, yeah.

01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:34.000
Right! Right. Right. So concentrate on learning that.

01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:42.000
Concentrate on thinking about. What it means!

01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:47.000
Before, everybody has been… Well, we've had some limited success.

01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:53.000
Identifying some things through the Chicago Manual of Style, for example.

01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:01.000
Or from the government printing office, um, provisions. But there's nothing like having the people.

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:07.000
Who actually made this stuff up. Come forward and say on the court record.

01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:16.000
What it actually means. And when you… when you look at that, you go, oh.

01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:22.000
Well, it says here that it's a commercial vessel. How can you have two commercial vessels?

01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:27.000
Well, you can have a commercial vessel on the sea. Or on the land.

01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:39.000
Ah, okay, well, isn't that instructive? Suddenly, you know why you have two different commercial vessels that are named after you.

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And then you go down the list, and you say that, oh my.

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:53.000
Exempt from levy and tax pursuits. Hmm… Oh, well, that means I don't owe any taxes.

01:03:53.000 --> 01:04:01.000
Exempt from levy and tax pursues.

01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:07.000
And yet they're trying to attach your land. They're trying to claim that you have.

01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.000
Tax debts, that in fact. You don't.

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So, these are all things to kind of consider, ponder. Think about, roll it around in your brain.

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And be aware that. At least when it comes to government, as we've known it.

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Um, we've only been taught certain little bits and pieces. That happened to be of an advantage.

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.000
To our public employees. But not to us.

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Okay, so we have to turn our attention toward all of these factors.

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We have to think about what we want. And we have to be centered enough.

01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:59.000
To be able to defend our identity. Because that's where it all comes down, push to shove.

01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:05.000
Is your identity. That's what determines what kind of service, if any.

01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:14.000
You are owed from the government.

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:21.000
Yeah, when we expatriate our names. We regain…

01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.000
Authority over those names. You know, and, um, I think sometimes people forget that part.

01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:28.000
Right?

01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.000
Is those names don't just disappear into thin air. Those…

01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:41.000
No, the British Crown Copyrights! Uh, the upper lowercase name.

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They literally, too, there was… I don't know if it's still on YouTube, but there's an excellent, um, series called Lose the Name.

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Which shows how they remedy their own problem that they created with all these names.

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By removing certain names.

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.000
Hmm.

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Yeah. Yep, good reading, lots of good stuff, lots of… lots of grand old men being released from prison, lots of wonderful research.

01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:19.000
Coming forward, um… It was kind of a funny moment when.

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We all kind of looked at each other, and… you know, 3 quarters of these guys have been in prison for multiple years.

01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:34.000
Because, you know, they were attacked by the rats.

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Now.

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They never did anything violent. They never did anything to deserve being put in jail in the first place.

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But, you know, I guess the good part is, again, keeping our.

01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:57.000
What's our focus? Isn't they're out of jail, and now… they will bring forward the fruits of all of the different things they thought about.

01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.000
While they were in jail.

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Well, it would be awesome to be able to have a call like this, where, you know, you guys could be a panel, or something like that, for all of us, um, to be able to talk to them and ask questions and thank them for being.

01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:19.000
Pioneers right alongside you, Anna, and for… sacrificing all that they did sacrifice.

01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:33.000
Um, which we don't even know. We can… we can barely scratch the surface of all that they… have gone through, um… But it would be awesome to be able to give them a void, you know, give them a voice on all 50 states.

01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:38.000
And, um, helped to get the, you know, their stories out.

01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:48.000
Well, I'll certainly suggest that. And see if we can get… one or more of them to, uh, take the plunge and come on and talk.

01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:56.000
Winston Shroud, of course, is. Deeply into commercial law.

01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:02.000
And, you know, sort of secondarily into. The primary organic.

01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:09.000
American common law. Issues, and… the history of that.

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Um. I think that…

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That would be a great event, and I'll see what I can do.

01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:30.000
Awesome, thank you. I think it would be great. Now, Anna, do you… are you ready to take some questions? We have 3 hands up so far.

01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:36.000
But you may have some teaching still that you want to do for tonight.

01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:45.000
I guess the teaching so much as it is to teach… Keep your Shinola sensor on and control your own attention so that you don't.

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:50.000
Just fittering away on… Um, other people and other things that are…

01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.000
Not worthy.

01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:00.000
Absolutely. Stay focused, people. No more doom scrolling, no more doom scrolling.

01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.000
Right, right, no, or opium, either.

01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:12.000
I know this happens… Yeah, you get a lot of, uh, links, like, watch this, watch this, watch this, you gotta watch this, you know, so I get those all the time. Um, you probably get them too.

01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.000
All right, well, we, uh, why don't we go to Jamie on Louisiana? Go ahead.

01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:22.000
Michelle, I had to drop off, because my internet went out, but I was first in line.

01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:27.000
Oh, sorry, Doug. Okay, Jamie, um, I didn't realize that. Go ahead, Doug, and then we'll go to you, Jamie.

01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:33.000
Thank you. Well, Anna, today I'm the litigation call, there was about…

01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:38.000
Over half a dozen people that were railroaded by the courts, even when they said.

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You know, the courts would never answer who their sovereign delegation of authority was, or what the contract was.

01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:56.000
Or anything like that. And it is… I know you talked just a little earlier about the Provost Marshall. Is there any…

01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:02.000
Where we can expedite our connection to the Provost Marshal and get some results.

01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:15.000
Well, we have to set up each case very precisely. And so, to get the sort of systemic relief that I'm driving for, which is for all the different states.

01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:21.000
Um, there has to be kind of a come-to-Jesus meeting. Of the administrative state.

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.000
And the Army. So I'm… I'm…

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:33.000
Working toward that end. You see, what they do, they do in all the 50 states, all.

01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:43.000
All at once. So, anything that happens here in Alaska also happens in Washington, happens in Oregon, happens in Montana.

01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:49.000
All over the place. So, we want to put down these judiciary courts.

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:58.000
Like, you would put down a rabid dog. We want to get rid of these King's Bench ports operating on our land and soil.

01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:03.000
Where they have no… plausible reason to be.

01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:08.000
Okay, so there are a lot of things that are going into this.

01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:16.000
That have a larger scope of influence and meaning. And because of that.

01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.000
Um, it's not a real… It's more of an administrative action.

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:31.000
Done anything? Uh, because it comes down to misadministration of the public trust.

01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:38.000
So, can we start notifying Sarah Albert? About this?

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.000
And just get… bring it up.

01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:47.000
Well, she's a… she's… yeah, she's fully aware. Um, I have to do a couple of other little things that.

01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:54.000
That are just in the nature of notice. Um, and I have to do a couple of, um.

01:11:54.000 --> 01:12:02.000
I have to enter a couple of, uh. Complaint in diverse places.

01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:09.000
But as soon as that's done, uh, and assuming, of course, that they don't self-correct voluntarily.

01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:15.000
Then, uh, I will definitely be bringing in the Provost Marshals to make arrests.

01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:25.000
And to get these racketeers off the streets. So that people are no longer living in fear of non-existent taxes.

01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:31.000
Say, with her help of all… at all if we… put… gave notices to Sarah?

01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:33.000
Ulr, on that, then? Individuals… Okay.

01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:40.000
I think… I think not at this point. It may be a viable and good thing to do.

01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:52.000
A little later on. You know, the federalities, they operate as a democracy, and for them, it's all about numbers.

01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:57.000
But remember, we don't… function under any of the constitutions.

01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.000
We function under the Declaration of Independence.

01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:07.000
Yeah. Well, I've had people… I've had people, you know, say, where's… where's your contract?

01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:20.000
Show me your seven delegation authority, and then, you know, and they just run them over.

01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:25.000
Thank you, Doug. Yeah, they're definitely acting unlawfully, and they're acting like bullies.

01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:33.000
That's for sure. Um, so obviously Anna had to take a call, so we'll just wait patiently.

01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:41.000
Yeah, they haven't had any consequences, that's the problem.

01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:45.000
Yeah, we need, um, enforcement.

01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:50.000
Doug, while Anna's on the call, can you start… can you kind of just introduce… Sorry.

01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.000
Sorry, Anna's free now, Danica. That's all right.

01:13:53.000 --> 01:14:03.000
Yeah, I… I just had to very quickly take that call. I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude, it's… just, you know, the day.

01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:09.000
Um. I think that we have a lot of power.

01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:13.000
But we have to be pretty precise in our use of it.

01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:26.000
And, um, so… Let me get a little bit further down the track and lay in the plan to not only get relief for me, but for everybody.

01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:33.000
And at that point, then everybody in their different states. Will benefit from sending out.

01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:39.000
Notification of certain things. And begin the process.

01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:51.000
Um, holding these state-of-state governors and state-of-state legislatures accountable.

01:14:51.000 --> 01:15:00.000
Yeah, it's the holding accountable part that I think we struggle with, because there's… we don't have, you know, since we don't have our courts up, we don't have this enforcement that we need.

01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:06.000
But we're getting there, um, and I think that… you know, people are getting sick and tired of being sick and tired.

01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.000
Yeah.

01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:14.000
And they're going to get to that sort of, like, tipping point, and then that's gonna be it. They're just not gonna put up with it anymore, you know? So…

01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:23.000
Right, exactly. And whatever we have to do. To put the stick in their red wagon wheels, that's what we will do.

01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:29.000
Nice. Thanks, Santa. All right, Jamie, go ahead, you're up next.

01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:33.000
Hey, Anna, it's so good to see you again. And I don't have a question or a problem, I just wanted to tell you that I love you, and.

01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:40.000
I've been here.

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:48.000
And I'm thinking about you every day. I haven't texted you lately because… I know you're real busy.

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:54.000
And I, um, sorry, I'm getting a little emotional here. Um.

01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.000
I wish I could be there with you and give you a big hug.

01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000
I appreciate that.

01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:17.000
But I want you to know that you're in my thoughts and prayers all the time, and I just… my hat's off to you, and I'm just… And so much admiration for you, for your courage and your determination, and your warrior spirit. I love it.

01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:24.000
So, and I'm so grateful that you are. Willing to be… they are fighting for all of us.

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:31.000
And… You're an inspiration to all of us, I think.

01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:38.000
And you are such an awesome woman. You are the most awesome woman I've ever known since my mother.

01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000
Well, that's a great compliment.

01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:46.000
And… And I love you very much, and…

01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:52.000
Know that you're in my thoughts and prayers. Every day.

01:16:52.000 --> 01:17:00.000
And I wish I could be there to hug you. Hope one day soon, get up there and just give you a big hug.

01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.000
We'll go stand at the fence and wash the horses run.

01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.000
Yeah. Okay, then that's all, um…

01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.000
Sounds like a good thing.

01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.000
Big hugs and love from me to you, always. Take care.

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.000
You too. Thank you, Jamie.

01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:24.000
Thank you, Jamie. That was really beautiful. Um, Rocky, go ahead, Rocky.

01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.000
How you doing, Anna? You're looking a lot better today.

01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:32.000
I'm doing! I am. Life?

01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.000
I looked at my new passport photo, it's awful. It's absolutely awful.

01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.000
Yes, you will.

01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:45.000
My hair is sticking out on one side, and I have bags under my eyes, I look like I've been up for about 50 hours.

01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:46.000
Well, he probably was.

01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:52.000
Yeah, well, I'm looking at this, and. And we were commenting on what a terrible photo it was.

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:56.000
And uh… but then, you know, we stopped and we thought.

01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:11.000
You know? Anyone who's likely to be looking at my passport photo is probably going to find me in an airport where I've been drugged through in a novel and been on 6 different flights, and got waylaid.

01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.000
I'll probably look just like that! All right.

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:20.000
Probably would, huh? Um, my question is about the Union State.

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:28.000
What kind of, uh, either pillars or committees or. Whatever that the union state would need.

01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:33.000
To actually function with all the other… the counties.

01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:38.000
Well, it needs, um, basically all of the functions that you think of.

01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:48.000
Except the international business functions. Um, the Union states deal with national issues only.

01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:55.000
Okay, so, um… You wouldn't have the international business functions.

01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:01.000
Um, but you would have… Uh, local government issues.

01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:07.000
In terms of, um… For example, management of land and soil.

01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:14.000
Um, and especially, like, soil conservation. And, uh, surface water issues.

01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:32.000
Uh, dams, levees, um. Potable water for… communities. I mean, these are all local issues, and that's where you see the counties and the union states.

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:33.000
Okay, so it would be similar to the counties, then, on their.

01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.000
Uh, having their greatest functionality.

01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.000
What the pillars, or what… committees they would need to run.

01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:40.000
And… and… but you're… tying them all to all the counties.

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000
Yes.

01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000
Together would be pulling into that. Right.

01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:53.000
Right, right, you… yeah. And really, the Union states traditionally have been.

01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:58.000
More in terms of. Um, reflecting.

01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:05.000
Concerns of the counties? Like, when the, you know, the counties have a floodplain, say.

01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:06.000
Uh, and you've got 7 counties that are affected by the same floodplain.

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000
Mm-hmm.

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:17.000
Or, um, you have 3 counties that are. Affected by a, say, a, um.

01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:23.000
Like a super fund pollution site that's. It's partly in three counties.

01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:24.000
Mm-hmm.

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:30.000
That's where the Union State really comes forward and has its… powers to be able to address those multi-county.

01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.000
Mm-hmm.

01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:39.000
Issues, um. And do it together, to do it mutually.

01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:44.000
Um, it's… it's really a very powerful position, but it has to do with the things.

01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:49.000
That affect your life. Here and now, in your communities.

01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:50.000
Mm-hmm.

01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:59.000
So, the Union State is very precious and very powerful. Um, when it comes to those things that lap over county borders.

01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:00.000
Uh-huh. That's kind of what I was thinking, too.

01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:06.000
And affect more than one county.

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:12.000
The next thing is I'm… I'm building this voting software, you know, to do our elections and stuff.

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:17.000
And one of the questions that people come up with is that.

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:21.000
We're supposed to be doing, like, raising of hands, or, you know.

01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.000
Secret ballots or whatever, right? And the problem in Nevada is because we're a 24-hour state.

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:28.000
Right.

01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:34.000
It's hard to get everybody involved or able to vote that want to vote, because they have to work or whatever.

01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000
So, that's the reason I was trying to come up with some kind of software. I'm almost done with it now.

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:45.000
That they could… we could give them, like, 3-4 days a week, whatever, that you could go in here.

01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.000
You log in, and basically you do your vote, and you're done, right?

01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:56.000
And then it would be… everybody would be able to see the tallies. It'd be… fully open, so everybody can see what's going on, right?

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.000
Um, is that okay, or is that… something that we shouldn't be doing.

01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:07.000
Well, you know… Automation of voting is a very…

01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:12.000
Contentious subject. On one hand.

01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:21.000
Um, it does give rise to opportunities to hack elections. Uh, as we've seen.

01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:30.000
And the more sophisticated. A system is, isn't… doesn't mean it's more secure.

01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:31.000
Right.

01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:36.000
That's one of the oddball things about. You know, automated digital-type voting.

01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:42.000
Um, the means that we have. To identify.

01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:45.000
The one-man, one-vote principle? Is key, and the other thing is whether it's an open ballot.

01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:51.000
Uh-huh.

01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.000
Process where everybody can see how everybody else voted. Or if it's a secret ballot.

01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:57.000
Mm-hmm.

01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:03.000
Now, our government. Traditionally holds with the secret ballot.

01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:04.000
Okay.

01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:10.000
Uh, however, there are things, there are occasions when we have an open balloting process.

01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:14.000
And it's just, you know, everybody raising their hand. Um, both traditions exist in the counties.

01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:19.000
Uh-huh.

01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:27.000
And, you know, either one can be effective, depending on what the subject matter of the vote is.

01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:32.000
Um. Traditionally, uh, the secret ballot.

01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:41.000
Is employed, where there's some question. Where people might, um… be singled out if they oppose something?

01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.000
Or support something? Um, but other things, like, you know.

01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:48.000
That… that's what I was thinking, too.

01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:55.000
Typically, things that are not. That contentious, like.

01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:59.000
Well, I mostly wanted to use it for the committees, voting on committees.

01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:04.000
Voting on different things that we. Need to do in the Union State and the counties.

01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.000
And that way, it gives it an open platform so everybody can get into.

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.000
Um, I don't know if you know, too, I'm writing a Nevada LRO2.

01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.000
Uh-huh.

01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.000
And I've tied this voting to that. So you have to have an LRO account.

01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:21.000
And you can vote. That means I… I'm getting a one-to-one vote, so everybody that is an ASN or an ASC.

01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:24.000
Right.

01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.000
They're allowed to vote based on. Because you have an LRO account, right?

01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.000
Sure, sure.

01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:37.000
So, that's what I was trying to do to make it… Where it's easier to manage and easier to… for people to vote.

01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:38.000
Right.

01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:46.000
You know what I'm saying? The vote on things that we need to do is like you're talking about disaster stuff, and we need something to do, and we need a vote right away. I can throw it out there, everybody can just log on, vote on it.

01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:48.000
And then we can go do it, right? So, instead of, you know, trying to throw a quick meeting or something, we can throw an email out, go vote on this.

01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:53.000
Right.

01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:56.000
It's already out there, you know, and let them vote on it, right?

01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000
So, that was my idea, is I… I just… I don't want to overstep.

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:06.000
Or do something that… we really shouldn't be doing, you know, because.

01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:11.000
We should be an open government, and people should have. Access to what we're doing.

01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:18.000
It's the way I look at it. So… You know, it's… anyway, that's… that's all I wanted to say. I…

01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:21.000
Just hoping I'm doing the right things, you know? Um.

01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:29.000
Well, it sounds… it sounds reasonable. Just remember that some… Do some votes do reasonably require.

01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:32.000
Uh, a secret ballot.

01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:39.000
Mm-hmm. Yeah, this could be either way, because it depends on the reporting on it afterwards.

01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:46.000
If we can just make an open and we can show everybody that voted, or… You know, right now, what I have is just a total page that just shows you.

01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:52.000
Whatever the different person is, and how many yes, no's, and what abstains they have, right? So that's more of a secret type vote.

01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.000
So you don't know who voted on them, but… The votes are all there, and they're counted, right?

01:25:54.000 --> 01:26:00.000
Right.

01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:01.000
Yeah.

01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:09.000
Um, that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying? So it's… I don't know, I think I'm going the right way. You know, it's… I don't know if you really know, because I'm a software developer. I've been doing it for over 40 years.

01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:15.000
Okay? So I'm using my skills. On what I do for a living.

01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:19.000
To volunteer and give my stuff to the state, you know what I'm saying?

01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:28.000
And this is just some areas I can do things. And, you know, I just… I wanted to guidance, make sure I was doing the right thing.

01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:36.000
Great, well, as long as you leave yourself a way of being able to, as you say, identify that the person is eligible to vote.

01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.000
Mm-hmm.

01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:42.000
Have a means by which to do votes that are open.

01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:46.000
And a way to do votes that are secret. I mean, if you've got both those in place.

01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.000
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:56.000
Then, you know, there's no reason why you can't. Use a automated system.

01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.000
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm just a firm believer that I believe everybody should have the right.

01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:02.000
Um.

01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:07.000
To speak up in their assemblies? And everybody should be able to vote, right? Now I'm trying to come up with ways to get more people involved.

01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:11.000
Right. Well, absolutely, and people do…

01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.000
Yeah.

01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:21.000
Um. I think they do appreciate the ease.

01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:26.000
That the new technologies have introduced into our lives. But there are certainly some occasions, and there may be some boats.

01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:31.000
Mm-hmm.

01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:35.000
Where you will wind up wanting to use paper ballots. So, uh, you know, remember that.

01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:39.000
Yes.

01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:47.000
Just because digital voting is… Uh, so very easy compared to what you go through with paper boats.

01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:48.000
Um, there are some things that you do need to pay for ballot.

01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:55.000
Mm-hmm. Right. Like I said, if you're doing your row elections for officers and all that.

01:27:55.000 --> 01:28:07.000
I would assume we would need to do paper ballots, because that would be more… I don't know… more, you know, just there, you know, where people can see what's really going on.

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:11.000
Yeah, so there's a… there's something in the hand, there's some hard copy that.

01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.000
You can go back and check, and it is or it isn't, you know?

01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:16.000
Exactly.

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:24.000
Those sorts of things are very important. And, um… But for things like committee meetings, and we're going to…

01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:30.000
You know, vote a proposal in committee, yay or nay, or we're going to table something in committee.

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:39.000
Those sorts of votes can certainly be tallied. With digital means, and I'm sure all the other states would find that very helpful, too.

01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:46.000
Mm-hmm. Okay. Anyway, I yield. That's all I wanted to say, and you look good. Thank you.

01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:47.000
You believe me.

01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:53.000
You were looking really draw down the last few. Whatever. But today, you look… today you look more alive.

01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.000
Oh, well, I've… yeah. Well, good!

01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:01.000
And, you know, it's… I'm…

01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:06.000
I'm real happy because of it. Anyway, I'll yield, I'll see you later.

01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000
Thank you, Rocky. Okay, Gregory, go ahead. Yeah, just fine. Oh.

01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:16.000
Hear me? Okay, I got two questions… two questions, but I do have a comment.

01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:24.000
Somewhere around 9 months to a year ago, Dr. Jerome Corsi was working with a physicist, or maybe it was a high-end programmer.

01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:33.000
And 11 states that they checked, they, uh, as far as electronic voting is concerned, they found in the neighborhood of 100,000 ghost.

01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:44.000
Kind of people in there that the deep state could kind of come in and bring in and drop in there, so… That electronic voting system is so deeply corrupt, it's kind of mind-boggling, so…

01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:52.000
Um, I don't… I think, you know, in the beginning, everything should be stuck to paper ballots. I just wanted to make that comment. Anyway, my first question is.

01:29:52.000 --> 01:30:06.000
Um, I have an interest in… After 5 years of learning law on my own, and going through my own court experiences, and seeing the fraud in front of my eyes, uh, being incarcerated unlawfully, kidnapped by the police a few times lately, yada yada.

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:15.000
What… what'd it do? I found out, well, you can go to a law school, not interested in taking the bar exam, but I can go to a law school and I get a law degree.

01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.000
I also found out that you could have a bar attorney.

01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:25.000
Supervise you, and maybe pattern your own, uh, law studies off one of the law schools or something.

01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:32.000
And, um, I'm… but the thing is, if you do that, you have to take the baby bar to progress to the next year.

01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:39.000
So I'm kind of wondering about the concepts of… Um, the law schools that are out there, I guess, you know.

01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:47.000
The assumption is they're very skewed to, um… the legal system, but if you had your own study going on, maybe you could.

01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:55.000
Do something a little bit different? Is there a degree for a common law lawyer? Do you… can you advise on any of that?

01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:00.000
Well, what we used to do, the tradition, is that you read the law.

01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:07.000
With an experienced attorney or judge. And they become your mentor.

01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:15.000
And they teach you how to properly interpret. Law!

01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:24.000
So, you know, we do have our common law traditions. Um, it's kind of difficult to find those people. They're few and far between.

01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:31.000
I'm hoping to get some of them. Uh, who, you know, there are such people, they do exist.

01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:39.000
Awesome in England, and some here. Uh, who could do… classes, and…

01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:44.000
Actually raise up a new generation. Of common law.

01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:53.000
Counselors and law. So, yes, that is something that we're working on. It is something that is developing in the background.

01:31:53.000 --> 01:32:05.000
Um, you know, I basically read law. Um, which is the… The old traditional way of doing it, and we can still do it.

01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:35.000
I have to take this call just briefly.

01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:57.000
Michelle, while we're waiting, may I ask you a question? Okay, I'm gonna drop this link in the chat, and I don't know if anybody… I don't know if anybody saw this on Monday, this, um…

01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:15.000
Gosh, what's the guy's name? Uh, Arnett… Kevin Arnett? And there was, like, some ruling or something? Will you have that… pull… will you pull that up so that when I get my question? Because I was… I was going to ask Anna about it, and I was going to ask you to pull it up, if that's alright. I just…

01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.000
Dropped it in the chat. Yeah, okay, thank you.

01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:25.000
Yeah, I can do a screen share. Welcome.

01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:26.000
Anyway, so I was intently listening about. The common law of law and training.

01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:32.000
Okay.

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:37.000
Well, you know, there are books that we have available at TASA that.

01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:41.000
Um, are listed. We have an entire series of common law.

01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:53.000
Uh, a multi-volume set of American Commonwealth. Uh, it's, you know, practice and procedures from the early 1900s.

01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:00.000
By James Parker Hall, um, that we… that we have as a fundamental source.

01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:06.000
Um, Kevin Annette, what… Um, we're just about to discuss.

01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:13.000
The International Tribunal of Crimes of Church and State. Uh, is a common law court.

01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:22.000
Functioning in international jurisdiction. Uh, we can just as easily set them up in any jurisdiction.

01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:27.000
Uh, the thing that matters are kind of the rules of the jurisdiction and the, um.

01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:36.000
The nature of the subject matter. But anyway, uh, yeah, there's quite a bit out there. We've got Brett Winters, the, um.

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:44.000
The, uh, excellence of the common law. Uh, lots and lots of resources.

01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:49.000
For the study of common law. American common law, especially.

01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:56.000
So… And of course, the great source of British common law.

01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:05.000
Is, um, the Blackstone Commentaries. Sir William Blackstone, um, basically wrote the.

01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:13.000
The eulogy of British… common law back in the 1700s.

01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:18.000
Uh, and preserved. How the common law in Britain.

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:24.000
Functioned and, uh, you know, what the practices of common law were, and all of that.

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000
The sad part is that equity law, which was far more.

01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:37.000
Um, what shall I say, uh… If remunerated, the government and the judges more, so…

01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:45.000
Of course, equity law took over. And edged common law out in England.

01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:57.000
Pretty rapidly, and uh… So, British common law has been stagnant for two and a half centuries.

01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:05.000
But it nonetheless does tell you what the common law was in Britain before the development of equity law.

01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:11.000
So, we've got lots and lots of wonderful resources on the common law.

01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:21.000
And we're developing more, so there'll be ways and places and times you need us to study all you want.

01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:31.000
Okay, well, all the courts for representation need an attorney with a bar card, except for, I think, is there one in New York that International Court of Trade or something?

01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:36.000
If you're a well-studied. A common law lawyer.

01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:44.000
Do you have… can you find yourself access into the de facto courts to do things to help people? As an example, we have Eugene Pang.

01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:51.000
They're… they're, you know, they've got them for over 60 days now, he refuses to sign anything, and maybe somebody could come in as a common law lawyer.

01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:55.000
And take that… take, you know, the friend of the court, or I don't know, something.

01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:03.000
What is… what's the status of you well-versed in common law, trying to go into these courts and effectuate anything?

01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:11.000
Well, that is kind of pointless, because they're functioning under a different form of law.

01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:25.000
I mean, if they're functioning under admiralty or equity, or… Administrative law… It's just a different form of law, and it's supposed to be applied.

01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:34.000
To different subject matter. And they're… they're basically committing crimes, personage, and barotry against us.

01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:45.000
Every time they address us, every time they misaddress us. So, it's identity theft and misrepresentation.

01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:50.000
And this administration of law. None of these parts, none of their ports.

01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:56.000
Are competent to speak to. A living man.

01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:07.000
And yet they do so all the time. So, um…

01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:08.000
It is.

01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:15.000
It's just kind of a catch-22. I mean… maybe a two-point… two-pronged attack, we had a common law lawyer and a bar attorney working together, but…

01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:24.000
The other question I had was, um… I am kind of chomping at the bit to put an office together, fill it with office furniture and equipment, and uh…

01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:34.000
Go recruit myself, like, 10 or 20 law students at the local colleges, and… start putting some flyers around my neighborhood, uh, well-crafted.

01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:39.000
Say some stuff and not too much that looks like you're in an Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole.

01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:47.000
I'm just trying to alert my neighbors, pass out some American peace flags, and um… Of course, it takes some, uh, some assets, and I'm just kind of wondering if…

01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:59.000
Possible we can get maybe one or two or three of these bank exchanges going, or, you know, is there anything we can do to focus on a couple of banks to… so we can exchange some money and get some of our ideas rolling?

01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:07.000
I mean, there's, uh… the fair here in San Diego, great place to set up, they have, uh, suburbs have their own.

01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:14.000
Little fairs and going, and said, you know, we need to set up booths and kind of do some outreach.

01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:20.000
Yes, of course. Um… The entire infrastructure and… and…

01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:27.000
Everything that has gone into the bank is now through the second round, which was… well, first it was.

01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:35.000
Setting up for the American Federation dollar and for. Being able to trade in gold and silver coinage again.

01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:40.000
And so now we're just completing the prepaid credit side of it.

01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:45.000
So that both will be… available and will be on the same.

01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:55.000
The same banking screen, so that you can pick which one you're… you're doing. Uh, that in the educational modules are now.

01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:03.000
Virtually complete. So, it won't be long before you'll be able to access your.

01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:07.000
Different kinds of money, and be able to start figuring out how all that works.

01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:15.000
But that will go to individual people first. And then it will go to the assemblies.

01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:21.000
Because, well… People matter more than things.

01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:28.000
People matter more than institutions. People have to eat. Institutions, not so much.

01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:36.000
And so, um… the individual accounts of the living people will be what's accessible first.

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:41.000
And then, uh… Probably, I'd say, a month after that.

01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:52.000
The assemblies will actually get their money. I'm hoping that people will… appreciate the new system and appreciate the money they're getting back.

01:40:52.000 --> 01:41:01.000
Enough so that they'll be able and willing to promote. Some of the assembly activities out of their own pockets.

01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:12.000
Uh, in that little time in between. And be able to give the assemblies a few bucks to do outreach, and to get some things printed, and.

01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:25.000
And, you know, do more normal outreach and organizational things. So I guess it really kind of depends on the choices that individual people make.

01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:36.000
How fast the assemblies themselves. Get, um… booted up and on the road in the way that you're suggesting.

01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:42.000
Right now, um, the real power of the assemblies is their standing.

01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:49.000
And their inheritance, that their heirs, the people in the assemblies are heirs.

01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:56.000
Um, so that is the real importance, that role that the assemblies are playing right now.

01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:02.000
Um, but hopefully, once the money comes in. For the individual people.

01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:13.000
They'll extrapolate some of that back to the process and to the organizations that made all of that possible.

01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:17.000
Okay. All right, well, thank you. I think it might happen by the end of the year?

01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.000
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean…

01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000
Okay, I…

01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:25.000
Yeah.

01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:31.000
Awesome. Thank you, Gregory. Um, Mike and Danica, go ahead, Danica.

01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:46.000
Thanks, Michelle, and uh… Anna, it is so wonderful to see you back, and we really, really echo the same exact sentiments that Jamie said so beautifully, and we just love you so much, and yes, you are one.

01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:53.000
One heck of a woman, I'll tell you that much. A real, real role model for all of us, and.

01:42:53.000 --> 01:43:00.000
Just… I mean… You know, and our condolences, and we just love you so much and appreciate you.

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:08.000
And my question is, um, Michelle, are you able to do a screen share?

01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:18.000
There was a ruling, I think it was on Monday or Tuesday, with…

01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:19.000
Karen, I'm not.

01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:28.000
With, uh, what was his name again? I started talking about that as well, and I'm wondering… Yeah, would you… are you familiar with… with this decision that… that just happened a couple days ago? Um…

01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:37.000
And would… would you speak on it? It… I don't know if this is the right word, but it, like, indicted all these people.

01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:44.000
Um, including the CEO of the Territorial Corporation. Um.

01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:59.000
And I… I think it's asking all the world… the different countries are… if they're able to help with the enforcements. Anyways, I'm wondering, what are your thoughts and, um, if you could speak on it.

01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:05.000
Well, Kevin has been at this for many years. He's been at this particular, um.

01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:10.000
Endeavor, probably… I don't know, 25 years?

01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:16.000
And he created the International Tribunal. Of crimes of church and state.

01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:25.000
Um, the ITCCS… Um, and build it from the ground up with the help of.

01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:34.000
Individual people, um. Who agreed with him that there was evidence of crimes.

01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:39.000
That we're being committed by the state and by the churches.

01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:45.000
Uh, so that the very institutions that are supposed to protect us were, in fact.

01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:51.000
Acting in breach of trust, and in some cases. Uh, not only just.

01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:59.000
Stealing the custody… custody of children. But we're murdering children.

01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:09.000
Okay, this is… this all started out. When he heard, uh, as a pastor, an Anglican pastor, or was it a Unitarian pastor?

01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:15.000
Anyway, Kevin was a clergyman when all this started. And, uh, parishioners came to him.

01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:21.000
And told him about abuse that took place in Indian reservation schools.

01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:27.000
And how children disappeared and were simply never heard of again.

01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:38.000
Uh, and so he began investigating this. And of course, it ultimately… brought him face-to-face with the Ninth Circle cult.

01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:44.000
And, uh, various other. Cults that, um.

01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:51.000
Are Satanists. I mean, you know, they, um… They actually sacrifice.

01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:59.000
Living people. They even cannibalize other people. And so, um.

01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:04.000
If he got into this. Very dark underbelly.

01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:11.000
Of, um, you know, religion. And he reacted…

01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:17.000
By investigating and continuing to investigate, and to getting other people.

01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:23.000
Involved in investigating. And prosecuting these crimes.

01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:32.000
So, this has grown into the ITCS, and this particular. Um.

01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:38.000
Ruling, or order. Uh, finding the…

01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:46.000
People that were named as defendants guilty. Of these crimes against humanity.

01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:53.000
And requiring their arrest. Now, they don't have any kind of.

01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:01.000
Broad spectrum enforcement power for all this. But there are 3 countries that have stepped up.

01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:09.000
And, uh, have promised their help in enforcing. The ITCCS.

01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:14.000
Rulings. So those three countries are…

01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:20.000
In a position to… deploy considerable resources toward.

01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:32.000
Actually apprehending, arresting, and um… you know, bringing these… Guys that have already been tried in absentia.

01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:39.000
To justice. And that's about where it stands, is that, yeah, they've got.

01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:47.000
Some partial enforcement. Uh, and they have their deliberations, they have the evidence.

01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:56.000
And they have the results published. No.

01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:58.000
I hope that answers your question.

01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:07.000
Yeah, I really wanted to hear your thoughts on it, and I appreciate that, and um… And I do feel like, just overall, in general.

01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:19.000
I just feel like we're moving into enforcements as a whole. It just feels like, overall, it… Like, everything you're going through, and what you're…

01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:24.000
Looking to establish on behalf of everybody, and I just feel it, kind of.

01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:32.000
Kind of oozing out all over the place. I feel like California, you know, we've noticed our legislatures, we've noticed the governor, I feel like.

01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:38.000
Doug and Christy with the Silver Bullet, and I just feel like everything is really lining up.

01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:45.000
For really us to just take our hands and put a pen in our hand.

01:48:45.000 --> 01:49:02.000
And get things, you know, written and get those silver bullets out there, get those true bills, you know, we could do these agricultural liens that apparently Washington has been doing for, um… quite a long time, but it just feels like we have…

01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:10.000
More tools these days. It feels like things are really… you know, getting ready, but it's really us that has to do it.

01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:11.000
We have to do it!

01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:19.000
Yeah, that's the hard part, understanding that the government is us. It's not something out there external to us.

01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:20.000
Right, it's we the people.

01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:27.000
Yeah, and that's a difficult concept. That is the, uh, whole…

01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:32.000
Issue of self-governance. You can have the right to self-govern.

01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:42.000
But if you never actually exercise your rights. And you never actually exercised the responsibilities underlying those rights.

01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:52.000
Then you get picked up and carried along. And subjected to foreign law, and you go through all of this misery and taxation and everything else.

01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:57.000
Simply because you aren't operating your own government.

01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:18.000
Yeah, because it was right before you came on, Lisa had introduced us and shown us this really incredible document. I mean, to me, what was the most interesting on that document was all the names and the addresses, because those are contacts, and when we have the contacts, I feel like mixing in with what.

01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:30.000
Doug and Christy has really boiled it down to with this silver bullet and the TrueBill, because we've been… we've been notice… you've been noticing them for decades, so they know.

01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:44.000
So it's not like we have to do this extensive due process, you know, because they already have had it, and I think it's so much… I think it's easier than we know, you know? It's kind of like, hey, Assembly.

01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:59.000
Do we want to do this silver bullet? And then, you know, and then we could start the liens, you know? And we don't have to wait for courts to be so established, because we are in… we individually… like, when you had your.

01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:12.000
House, situation. Everybody came. You know, everybody faxed out, everybody emailed, everybody wrote letters. We all came together, and it was a powerhouse.

01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:17.000
And that is a living example that just happened a week ago.

01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:23.000
And we need to know that about ourselves, you know? And we could do that again, you know?

01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:36.000
Anyways, I just love you so much, and… I just feel this, um… This shift that we, you know, we cross lines because we've been… we're 5 years old now.

01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:37.000
Yeah.

01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:46.000
And think about what a 5-year-old is, you know what I'm saying? Like, we know the alphabet, and we know how to deal with numbers, and, you know, we know how to walk, and we're riding bikes, you know?

01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:55.000
Yeah, so we're beginning to actually… get the… get the skills and the ideas, and we're beginning to move.

01:51:55.000 --> 01:52:04.000
In ways that are very important. Um, everybody in all 50 states has their own court of record.

01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:05.000
Yes.

01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:13.000
Uh, everybody in all 50 states. Has the ability to join with their neighbors and actually set up.

01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:19.000
A grand jury, and or set up. A trial court.

01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:31.000
And issue the… the judgments of the… Um, the trial court as.

01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:32.000
Is that just our phone, where it froze? Is that just us?

01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:36.000
Or the record courts as, um, foreign judgments.

01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:37.000
Oh, no, you're still here, Danica. We can hear you.

01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:41.000
Oh, darn it.

01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:45.000
Sounds like she might have frozen. Sorry, Anna.

01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:55.000
Okay, I thought it… I thought it was over here on my end, and I was like, darn it, because we're traveling, so… I was like, oh darn. Okay, so Anna froze.

01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:56.000
No, I think I'm here.

01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:58.000
Gosh, she didn't freeze. She was finishing talking about the grand jury or the trial courts, you know, or the court of record.

01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:04.000
Oh, I'm so sorry.

01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:15.000
Right, and our enforcement for those, on paper. It was a foreign court judgment that we can issue to any of the other courts.

01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:16.000
You see, we're not sovereign citizens. We are foreign citizens.

01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:20.000
So…

01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:25.000
With respect to the de facto government.

01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:33.000
So, in a case like Eugene, they could have… on Pennsylvania, they could actually issue.

01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:42.000
A… a foreign judgment to that court to have him released as an idea. That's something.

01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:46.000
That, that, um, Pennsylvanians can do?

01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:51.000
Well, yeah, anybody can do. Um, but…

01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:56.000
You can… you can review the circumstance of why he's in jail.

01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:04.000
And you can speak to the law and the facts. I mean, part of what's so pathetic about this entire situation.

01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:09.000
Is that we're supposed to have our courts. Engaged, up and operating.

01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:16.000
So that we can judge the law and the facts. These other courts can't.

01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:21.000
They're totally incompetent. And have been left incompetent.

01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:30.000
And have been left in these foreign jurisdictions. Specifically because they cannot speak to the law and the facts.

01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:35.000
So when we issue a foreign court judgment, and we are discussing.

01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:42.000
The law and the facts. They really don't have any recourse.

01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:48.000
And if they fail to follow the instructions of the foreign court.

01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:54.000
Then they're an insurrection.

01:54:54.000 --> 01:55:01.000
Okay, it's a lot of… a lot that we just discussed, and I'm so grateful, and I just know.

01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:10.000
We're 5 years old, we're coming around, we're coming around. So thank you so much, Anna, and I yield.

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:18.000
Thank you.

01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:24.000
Hello! It is very nice to see you. It's been a little bit, and I wanted to offer my condolences as well.

01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:31.000
I had a question about the St. Crown Exchange, because there was something posted where they.

01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.000
They… are they not using the AFD, and they have their own gold back?

01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:35.000
Coin, does that mean that…

01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:43.000
No, no, they're just… they're issuing their own token. They have their own gold token.

01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:50.000
But it said something like it was changing from AFD1 to the name of their token. Does that mean ours is not on theirs anymore?

01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:54.000
No, it just means that they have their own token.

01:55:54.000 --> 01:56:04.000
Oh, okay, that's good news. I'm not sure if I was, uh… I got on a little late, so I didn't know if you did, like, a banking update, because I know the last time.

01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:10.000
You spoke, you were really excited that. You know, you said that you had a way to make the, uh…

01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:18.000
Other banks, uh… you know, communicate with everything. You said that we had a way to force their hand or something like that, and…

01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:27.000
I just wondered what was the status on that situation, because you said that GFG and everything was completed, and there was nothing left for us to do. We were basically waiting for our.

01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:30.000
Instruction email from GFG. Um, is…

01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:38.000
I should tell you… I should explain to you that we don't need St. Crown or anybody else. We have our own exchange.

01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:39.000
Right, I remember that, too. I wondered what…

01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:45.000
We're just… we just work with other… other banks and other organizations, other countries.

01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:52.000
Um, to be able to more fluidly interact with their economies, that's all.

01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:53.000
Um.

01:56:53.000 --> 01:57:02.000
How come we can't use the exchange now? Like, what's the name of it? And, like, do we have a link that we can see it, or is it gonna be on the dashboard?

01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:11.000
All this stuff comes through the Treasury that we established. And we have, um… We have the physical assets.

01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:17.000
In one bank, and we have the commercial assets in another banking structure.

01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:24.000
And you'll just have to get used to and learn all that stuff as the, um.

01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:31.000
The dashboard comes back. When the dashboard comes back, you'll see that you not only have AFD.

01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:36.000
You also have prepaid credit. And so, um…

01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:37.000
We'll have to…

01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:43.000
Right, I remember you explaining that. I do remember that very clearly. I just wondered… Uh, how come, like.

01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:49.000
Gfg hasn't sent us the instructional email yet on, like, when we can access it and everything.

01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:59.000
Well, they have sent out, um. Educational emails, you know, they're just small little blurbs, like a minute, 2 minutes, 3 minutes.

01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:04.000
Uh, they're like little mini modules that just cover one topic.

01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:11.000
Um, and there have been several of those, and when the dashboard comes up, hopefully, if we've done our work.

01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:16.000
It will be very user-friendly, and you'll simply be able to understand that.

01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:22.000
Okay, if you want to do this, this is how you do it. If you want to do that.

01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:23.000
Yeah, I saw a picture that they put in their Telegram thread about.

01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:26.000
That's how you do it.

01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:43.000
You know, something like changes, they crossed out coming soon or something, and it's here, like, here now, and… So, um… I just got excited thinking that we were gonna be… is it gonna still be in, like, in the month of October, or are we looking at going longer than October?

01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:47.000
No, we're… we're still… we're still gunning for October.

01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:54.000
Okay, well, that's great news. Okay, well… Thank you very much for answering my questions, and I yield.

01:58:54.000 --> 01:59:05.000
Okay, guys, I need to get some sleep. I only got 4 hours sleep, and I've been turtled down working like a dog all day, so I'm going to go take a nap.

01:59:05.000 --> 01:59:06.000
All right. Yes.

01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.000
Well-deserved nap. Thank you so much, Anna. We love you.

01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:11.000
Hudson… hugs and kisses, everybody! I will have a nice little lamp.

01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:18.000
Thank you, Anna. Have a wonderful time. God bless you!

01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:20.000
Good night, guys!

01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:21.000
Good night! Good night, everyone!

01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:22.000
Love you, good night.

01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:23.000
Goodbye.

01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:27.000
9 a.m.

01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:30.000
Thank you. Good night, everybody.

01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:32.000
Not everyone…

01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:33.000
Good call, Mitchell.

01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:34.000
Hi, everybody. Love you guys.

01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:36.000
Thank you.

01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:39.000
By Anna!

01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:54.000
It's a group effort. By the way, um, one of our state nationals on North Carolina sent a, uh, a song that he wrote and converted into AI, like, AI put music to it.

01:59:54.000 --> 02:00:03.000
And I was planning, just for the end of the call, it's about a 4-minute long song, but I'm gonna wrap up tonight's call by playing this song.

02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:07.000
So, feel free to hang around, and then we'll… We'll go ahead and end the call after this, okay?

02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:13.000
Hello? Hello?

02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:14.000
Yes, who's that? Rock? Oh, someone… someone's talking.

02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:21.000
Hello!

02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:51.000
Hold on one second. We've got… some hot mics. All right, here we go.

02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:59.000
In the heart of.

02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:06.000
A car rings true with unbroken wings. Sovereign American in the sky, so grand, claiming.

02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:11.000
And Cheryl, this is Lee Childs.

02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:13.000
What was that?

02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:19.000
This is Lee Childs. How do I get that document? That Lisa Schaefer.

02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:21.000
Uh, put on chat.

02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:26.000
Oh, it's in the chat. All you have to do is, um… All you have…

02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:31.000
I see… I see the… document… I mean, the…

02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:38.000
Place, I assume it is, I double-clicked it on it, and I can't get it to come up.

02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:41.000
I'll send… I'll email it to you, okay, Lee? All right, you're welcome. By the way, can everyone hear the song?

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Thank you.

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I could.

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All right, we're going back to the side. Way to go, Mike Mossbach! One moment.

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Yes.

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I'm your booth, right? Take a stand. Not just a face in a shadow.

02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:08.000
No crowd, but a spirit untamed and ever proud. Games can soar on the soil.

02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:16.000
Of our ancestors, forevermore.

02:02:16.000 --> 02:02:23.000
Declaration's promise. Speaking so bright, we rise from the silence and step into light.

02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:29.000
I'm a U.S. Citizen now! By the chains were that American national.

02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:36.000
Where liberty reigns.

02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:44.000
Fruits, let the journey be gone.

02:02:44.000 --> 02:03:14.000
Of this nation, together we strive.

02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:29.000
The declaration's promise. I'm speaking so bright, we rise from the silence and step into life.

02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:35.000
Another U.S. Citizen bound! When an American state national.

02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:42.000
Liberty reigns. Lesbians, but awaken the.

02:03:42.000 --> 02:03:49.000
Bruce, let the journey be gone.

02:03:49.000 --> 02:04:09.000
Of this nation, together we strive.

02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:23.000
Our sovereign Americans, let our voices be clear in the land of the free we hold.

02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:32.000
So stand and rejoice in this vibrant land. And a tapestry woven by hope and by hand.

02:04:32.000 --> 02:05:02.000
For together we flourish, together we see the joy of existence as sovereign.

02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:10.000
If you don't believe…

02:05:10.000 --> 02:05:19.000
All right, thank you again to Mike Mossbach on North… Sorry, on North Carolina for, uh, making that song. I thought it was really cool, fun way to end our night tonight together.

02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:29.000
Thank you all for being here. I will, of course, uh, send out the recording to all of the coordinators, and, um, get it up on the mop and Bucket Rumble channel.

02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:31.000
And we'll see you next week, everybody. God bless you.

02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:32.000
Thank you, Michelle. Good night!

02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:34.000
Thanks, Michelle!

02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:36.000
Thank you, Michelle.

02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:37.000
Great song.

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Thanks, Michelle.

