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So, nothing was mailed or anything like that. It just…. You know, I didn't know how to get around that unless.

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You print off, you know, the document, and you just mail it in. It seems like they would have to honor the exemption at some.

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Some point. It's their responsibility to. To track the money of where it's going, not….

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After, um, you know, like. Anyway, I don't know enough about that stuff. I don't have a W-2 or anything, W-4.

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Um, anymore, so…. I couldn't… I couldn't answer the question, but, um, any information, um, on this recording would be helpful, and then I can.

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Um, send it… send it off, so thank you, I yield.

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Thank you, Tricia. And you know, uh, I don't know whether or not Lisa's gonna be on the call tonight, or if other people have had the benefit of.

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Receiving the information about, you know, the W-2, W-4 situation, so….

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We can open it up and, um, maybe some of the hands are there to answer these questions, but.

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Before I, you know, we… the… it's…. 516 now, California time, so we're gonna go ahead and officially start the call, and is there anyone on the call tonight?

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That would like to open up our meeting in a prayer.

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Uh, John from Seminole in Florida, I'm here. And somebody else wants to, that's fine too, but I definitely want to open in prayer for us.

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Go for it, John.

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Um, I have a father, we just humbly come before you.

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Lord, thank you for this season. Um, that we're in this weekend, and….

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The significance of it, the importance of it. Um, the people that, uh.

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Died for what we're fighting for now. And Lord, help us to never take that for granted, but to always be appreciated.

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Of their commitment, first to you. To the country and to the future for us.

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And Lord, I pray for tonight's meeting. Thank you for Michelle, how she's faithfully every week.

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Here to coordinate all this, and…. And make it happen with the technology, and….

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Pray for Ann as well. Everybody's on this call, I pray that them and their families will be blessed.

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Um, help us to continue to learn what we need to learn each and every one of these meetings are special.

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I believe they're all by your divine appointment, Father. Grateful for that. And we just give you praise and glory.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Thank you so much, John, so be it. What about, um, somebody that would like to volunteer to do the Bivens tonight?

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Where's Michael Bearwald when you need him? All right, in that case, if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and I'll pull up the Bivens.

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Um, from our agenda. I know every state has a slightly different iteration or version of the, uh, Bivens.

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But here goes. This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.

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And shall be addressed in an appropriate manner. To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting?

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That is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency of the pub… or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.

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Is there a response to the Bivens decision? Going once….

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Going twice. Going 3 times….

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Okay, hearing none, anyone who's here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States.

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Anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the premises.

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If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses. They are discredited for failure to disclose.

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All right. So, good evening, everyone. Today is Thursday, July 3rd, 2025. Um, it's about 20 minutes, almost 20 minutes past the hour.

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And this is the countrywide coordinator Training with Anna Von Reitz.

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Um, Anna did text me a short time ago letting me know that she's on the way to the hospital.

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To visit with Harold, um, at the Federation. And unfortunately, um.

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Uh, she's not gonna be with us until about an hour into this, so… and it's hopeful that.

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She'll be able to make that happen at that time. She said that she has urgent business to take care of.

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Um, I did ask her, you know, how is… how is he doing, and he's actually doing very well, and so is Jim, she said, so that's really good news.

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Um, now, I know we've got a bunch of hands up. I'm, you know, like always, I assume that these hands are for Anna.

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Um, but does there happen to be anybody on the call that heard Tricia's.

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Question moments ago regarding, um. The W-2 question?

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That might be able to be of service and helping… and help everybody answer that question.

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Is lease…. Awesome, go for it, Rocky.

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Michelle, this rocky? Um, can… can she repeat the question? Because I only got part of the app end of it.

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But I do know a lot about the W-2s.

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Awesome. Tricia?

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Yes. Um, you can hear me alright?

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Sure can.

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All right, um, yeah, the question was brought to us about, um.

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The W4, so, um, there's an ASN that got a new job, and this corporation is, um….

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The payroll clerk at this corporation is saying that it is their company policy.

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Um, for everybody to do a W-4, and they will not accept the W-4s that… with the exemptions.

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So they don't accept exemptions. So they're insisting that he….

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Um, you know, files the W-4 with claiming something. So, he's trying to figure out how….

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What to do with this. He hasn't ever had a problem with the W-4 until this corporation.

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Which just happens to be based out of Ohio, I think.

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So… and that's… that's the question, that's all I know.

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Okay. Okay, so they… they are not using the standard IRS form, W-4?

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Well, if they are, then there's an exemption part on that form.

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They should be using the standard W-4.

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But I have a few people that work remotely. And basically everything's done through the computer, so you have to log into their website and fill out their.

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Doc, you know, their form online. And, um, basically, they do have….

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A place where you could put in exempt. But if they don't….

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Well, the problem…. Sorry, the problem seems to be that this corporation will not accept.

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Okay, so when he does it, the exemptions, fill it out to 99.

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A W-4 that… with the exemption. He must claim something. Fail.

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I'm sorry, would you repeat that, please?

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When you fill out the amount of exemptions. Filled it out to 99.

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That would be…. You have so many exemptions, there's no money to take.

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And what does… what does that do?

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Okay. Yeah.

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You understand what I'm saying? It's like a…. For every… for every exemption, you… I think it takes off about….

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I'm trying to remember, like, $1,200 or something. Of taxes, but if you….

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File, like, 99. Depending on how much… unless you make a million dollars, you're not gonna pay any taxes.

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Okay, that's a… I've never heard that, um. Uh, well, I don't know anything about W-4s anyway, so… but thank you for that, um, that suggestion. I'll….

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Okay. Well, I yield then. No yield.

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That'll be important. Thank you very much.

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You know what I could do? I could do a screen share. I just, uh, went onto the internet and.

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And pulled up a W-4 form. And so, it's over here that you're talking about. Um, are you talking about this area, Rocky, where, um.

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Either step three, claiming dependents or other credits, and you would do, like, a 99 right here, is that what you're saying?

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Yes. So basically, where it says your claim number… step two or three? Step 3?

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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Reocclaim your dependents and other whatever. You know, you put 99 in there, and that's….

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Basically, like, saying you're…. Exempt. Because the deal is, is when they, when they….

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Hey, Michelle, can I chime in?

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I was just gonna say the same thing, Jason, I was gonna chime in, too.

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When they put in the 99, basically calculate. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

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Can I chime in? That's all wrong. I'll tell you, you guys want the sauce? You guys want the secret sauce?

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All right. Hold on. Yes, we do want the secret sauce, but let's try to not interrupt people, but um….

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Yeah, go ahead, I want to hear what he has to say.

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Rocky, were you done? All right, super. Um, Jason?

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All you gotta do is fill out. 4c, put exempt.

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Go ahead.

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In that box, and then… yup, and then right above your….

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Right here.

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Byline signature, right there under D, write out exempt and put parentheses around it.

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Sign in with your byline? Copyright symbol, all rights preserved.

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Without prejudice, and send that bad boy in. And that'll get you….

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What the lady said, though, is they don't allow you to go exempt.

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State and federal taxes off.

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So if you can't put the word exempt in her like you normally do.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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And file it for exempt. And they won't accept it.

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That's what I'm saying, is if you… if you take…. The corporation.

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Who won't… who won't accept it? Well, then Tim, what you do?

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The employer.

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You call the IRS and report them, because it's a contract between you and the IRS. See, what the IRS does is pin us.

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Between us and the corporations, so you report that employee, you tell that employer you're breaking the law.

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But you can do that, but the person trying to get a job will not get a job.

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Their law.

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They'll get a job, they can't deny that. That's illegal. But I yield.

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Yeah. Yup. Yeah, you'll be fighting it. The deal is, is to get around the word exemption, because they… if they don't like it.

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If you put 99 in there, when you… when they go to calculate the taxes.

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With amount of exemptions? You almost can't make enough money.

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For the exemptions that takes up all the money. It's the same thing.

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And that's where I was gonna jump in real quick and just tell you something else, and this is kind of far out, and I wasn't gonna….

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Jump in or anything, and I don't want to be accused of anything, but I believe the way out of the matrix is into the matrix, because you have to.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, do some stuff. If you want to send me an email, uh, we could talk more about it. I'll give you the real gist of it. Um, people are saying.

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Where is the contract? You know, and I've been looking for the contract for 5 years.

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Well, I found the contract, and it's with the IRS, because there's something called the CAF number.

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And when you collapse the calf number, which is the same thing that.

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Anna's talking about collapsing the trust. I'm sure there are many other ways.

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Maybe not, though. I don't know. I believe that the only way in is out. I mean, the only way out is in.

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So, if you want to send me an email, I just did this process on a couple of things, and.

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Next week, I'll be getting some calls, but I'm absolutely positive, because I've tried everything else for every other thing, and I absolutely know that as much as I did not want to.

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Be privy to, or whatever with the IRS. I… this is, like, after 5 years of trying stuff, you know what I mean? So, if you want to send me an email, give me Liberty LLC.

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That proton dot on me. And I believe that I know where the contract is and how to.

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Get rid of it. But you have to…. Do a couple of things so that you're not, like.

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In the water with no life raft. You need to have, like, a life raft, a lifeboat, maybe a yacht.

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You know, and that just means that you need to have representatives.

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Like, with the IRS, which…. You know, we can go into whatever that is, but what I'm saying, oh, the one point that I was gonna make is that if you look into the 706 gift tax form, and I'll be real brief and go on.

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Is that everything, when they say, oh, you have 91 days to pay.

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You know, and then you acquiesce, or you do this, or they do this, or whatever. That's because after 91 days, it's considered a gift.

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So, it's either that, or a 1099-A abandoned. Right? So, they call it a gift.

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And file it on the 706 form, which is the same thing.

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That we should be doing with everything. With everything. If you're filing taxes.

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That's how you should be filing them, because you have a $13 million for a lifetime.

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To, you know, take over into the tax-free, because you have $13 million. Unless you're a trillionaire.

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Or whatever, you…. It works out very well, and it was put there for this reason.

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For, I guess, people to figure out, or something, but…. It's not that hard to figure out. It's just the 706 form, but if you send me an email.

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I'll go over some stuff with you, and this is not me.

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Thinking that I like the IRS. I do not. At all. But, you know, when you talk to me in 10 days, you're gonna… I'll tell you exactly why. I like the IRS at this point, you know, because….

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I tried everything else, and…. You have to collapse the calf number.

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And you collapse it with the IRS, and that… and if we did, and I've told all my friends this, they've heard this over and over.

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If we collapse every single thing that our name was…. Attached to.

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Then we would collapse the fake corporation. I mean, you just say, no, I'm the fiduciary, I'm the fiduciary, same thing that Anna does.

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On our behalf. And she has said it many times, you need to be your own fiduciary.

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And I believe that I figured out how to do that, and I'll land.

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Awesome. Thank you, Jocelyn. Okay, um, and would you… I know that you spoke your email address, but for the people that want to send you any….

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Awesome. Cool. Thank you.

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I am now, yeah, I will, yep. Mm-hmm. Thanks, Michelle. I'm sorry I butted in, but I actually just sent a packet to the IRS, like, an hour ago, so I'm actually celebrating.

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No, no.

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Because I can just feel it, and I don't know, it's just… it feels great.

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Well, you know, the IRS is a funny thing. So the IRS kind of disappeared out of my life.

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Thank God, but um…. You know, by… by communication, of course, but who hasn't….

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Disappeared, okay, is the state Franchise Tax Board. Okay, the state one….

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This relentless…. Uh, paper behemoth, okay.

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But I, you know, I visualize that it's the size of, like, a little.

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Piece of dust, you know, and it just doesn't even exist or matter, you know what I mean?

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If you find their EIN, we can get rid of them for you, I guarantee it. Just find… I mean, I have people that are finding EINs, too. If you can't find their EIN, I'll find it for you, but.

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Yeah.

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Send me an email or a text about whoever the…. Corporation is, and I'll find their EIN, and then I'll… we can set up a meeting, and I'll show you exactly what I did on.

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And now I'm doing it on every single thing. I just did it on….

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The electric company and the internet, Xfinity, and Xfinity's about to get another notice, but because they're putting.

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Uh, whatever in the Wi-Fi, like, you can't even get around it? What? And then I said, oh, I should probably have my own modem.

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And they said no, so this is all a very big lawsuit, and don't ever do class action lawsuits. Do your individual lawsuits, because.

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You don't… you don't want to do class action lawsuits. I just… I get class action lawsuits, come to the email.

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I researched them, and then if anybody has that problem, we can file it individually, and.

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You know, at least access the trust back. You know, so if you have issues with that, once you do this, they should be sending you.

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Every single thing, whether it's a…. Tax liability or a dividend check.

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So, and they will do that, because that's what the form is for, and it's not a notice, it's not a….

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Document, it's just a form. And they type it into the computer, and it closes that number for them to be able to access.

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The trust on your behalf, because you gave them power of attorney, whether or not you knew.

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You knew it or not.

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Amazing. Thank you, Jocelyn. What's… now, where is Summit? What state are you on?

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So we just revoke that.

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Colorado, you know I'm in Colorado. You know, it's Jocelyn. You're like, why do I sound different?

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Oh, cool. Oh, it's you!

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Because I'm, like, elated right now. I'm like, they're gonna give me a call on Monday, and I'm gonna be like, uh….

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That's so good.

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So, yeah, I'm really excited. So yeah, it's Jocelyn, just… and I think that you've… I think we've texted. If you just want to send me a message and.

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I mean, I do a whole class once I get…. Results, but I'm telling you, I don't want to be involved in it, but if we can collapse it on every single thing that's attached to our name, then we can collapse.

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The United States Corporation. Whether or not they're in the process of doing that, I'm sick of waiting.

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Yeah, it's, you know, it's, uh, there's so much happening, and I hope everybody had a chance to see the article from Anna yesterday, along with the attachment.

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Regarding the indemnity bond and the process for each state, and I think Elvia is on the call. Elvia sent a cover letter.

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Um…. And Anna did get back to me on that while she was on the road to go to the hospital.

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Okay.

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And she said a couple things regarding your letter. She said that it doesn't have to be… it doesn't have to be done by a Sign in America coordinator.

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Um, she also said…. It doesn't need to be as lengthy.

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Um, but it says…. Can be an SIA coordinator who affirms that the.

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The individual is eligible for relief. Or it could be a designated recorder.

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Okay.

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Anyone who can officially affirm the person's paperwork is recorded. Um, we don't want to get wrapped up and give them anything to work with beyond the bare facts.

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So, less is more, it sounds like, in this situation. Um….

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Michelle, Lisa's on, I think.

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Oh, yeah, she just is hopping in through the waiting room right now, so… awesome, awesome. She might want to contribute to the topic that we just had moments ago regarding, um….

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The WA fan?

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Regarding W…. Well, yeah, you know, some people say W.A. Ben.

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Um, you know, that form is kind of oxymoronic. On one hand, it's like, you know, check here if you're not an individual, and then later you're affirming that you're an individual, so it's kind of funny.

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Um, so, uh, but maybe…. I know we've got other hands up, I don't want to make any assumptions, so….

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Is there anyone on the call with a hand up that wanted to contribute to that part of the conversation we were just having regarding.

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Um, taxation and…. Irs and Franchise Tax Board and the forms.

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Hey, Barbara!

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Well, Michelle, this is Barbara Newton. Hi, um, I can't find the… to put my hand up, but to contribute to this, I thought on Monday night at the webinar.

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Ana said that they, um, did whatever they need to do, and the IRS is down.

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Gong.

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So, I don't know if it's too late for the person who is struggling with this company for a job with the W….

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Poor and all that, but, um…. Anna said definitively that the IRS is now out of the picture.

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I yield.

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May I say something real quick about that? I just want to be real quickly, okay? So, I'm not gonna go deep into it, and I could, but I'm not going to.

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There is the IRS, and then there is the Internal Revenue Service, and I know you guys.

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We realize, oh, there are two. Well, there are two, because one's in the public and one's in the private. And I will let you know that I guarantee you.

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That the IRS on the private side will never go away.

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Because it is the structure, it is the…. Whatever. Yeah, so can we collapse the whole thing? Absolutely, let's just do that and light it on fire, but….

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If they don't do that, then that's what I'm saying. So, when she's saying it's gonna, uh, collapse, it probably will on the public side.

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I mean, it probably will be evident that it…. Already has, I guess, so….

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But you have to realize that all the private conveyance is all still in the private, and that's not going to go away, because there's no governance over the private side. That's why we all want to get on the private side and act from there instead of.

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The public side. But anyway, that's why I'm not going to go into it, but yeah, it's a very good point. I just wanted to make sure that people know that there's a public and a private side. The private side will never go away.

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Well, when… when Anna comes on, she could maybe clear that up with a….

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Absolutely, that would be amazing, yeah. Thank you so much, Barbara. I'm sorry I butted in.

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Oh, it's okay. I yield.

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Thank you both. Now, you know, I know many, many of Anna's articles talk about.

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One being territorial and one being municipal. Um, so I'm wondering about….

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About… about the pro… you know, this private side that we… you just were talking about, Jocelyn.

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Could you ex…. Okay.

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It's more like the trust side, so it's basically saying… and I look, and today, I got a download from the Most High about.

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Why I've been doing trust for, like, 5 years? Why do they call it trust? Trust, trust, trust, trust, trust, trust?

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And I came up with this, and I was talking to Jason earlier, I don't even know if he heard me, what I was saying, but.

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The trust is the trust between the public side. And the private side. Because eventually, it's all gonna go back to the private side if you have it set up right, and then they….

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Don't tax you, they don't do this, they don't do that, but you have to have….

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Like, air quotes, representatives, like, maybe you have a business LLC on the public side.

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Then you would have a private side. Nobody wants to hear about this, but… and I'm not going into trust and stuff like that, I'm just saying.

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You have to have, as above, so below, yin-yang. You have to have a balance between.

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The entities, and if you look at the way they're doing it.

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That's exactly… they're taking from your private trusts. And they're charging you in the public. Then they're taking that public debt, which is what they call it, which is an asset.

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And moving it back into the private, and it's considered a credit. That's why they say everything that goes out of the trust comes back into the trust, because.

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If you convey the student loans from the public, the use of correct all-caps name, into the private.

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Then it becomes a credit on the 1041. So, and that's where the 706 comes in, with the $13 million exemption. I do not advocate for filing with the IRS.

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But I'm gonna get out of the matrix, and I'm gonna prove to everyone how to do that. So… and I don't want to go with the IRS, I don't, but….

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I've tried everything else, so I… this is very simple, it takes 5 minutes to fill out the form, but it takes.

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At least a month to set up the entities and stuff, just so you can have protection on the private side. So, I'll land there, and if you… I would do… I'd be happy to do any kind of call with you, Michelle, anytime.

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Thank you, Jocelyn, and I know Lisa hopped on the call, and I see Lisa's hand up, so I don't want to….

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Have Lisa jump ahead, um, in the conversation, but, um, not everybody who has a hand up was like, I want to talk about taxes!

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So, Lisa, are you here to talk about this topic? I see….

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Great, yeah, please chime in, thank you.

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I am. So I did put… I did put some forms in the, um, chat.

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Um, the first one is the W-4, um. And how you should fill it out.

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And the instructions with it, because most of us never. Read the instructions.

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To the IRS forms, okay? And in the instructions, I highlighted exactly why you can claim the exemption.

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All right? And, um…. And it basically says that if you didn't owe taxes the year before, and you're not going to owe taxes this year, federal taxes.

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Then, um, you, um…. Can claim exempt.

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And so, with our statuses, what we do is… is, um….

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And we have to explain to our employers that we are non-resident aliens.

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Mm-hmm.

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Now, I know the Oregon Assembly, they wrote me I didn't have time today to get them back, but I just sent them a note.

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And there is a federal… there… this is what…. Federal law is recurring.

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Requiring employers. To accept employee-submitted IRS forms.

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At the bottom, employers must accept and act upon IRS forms when properly completed by employees or payees.

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Two code provisions, and they're implementing regulations govern this. So you have a statutory authority called 26USC.

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Wait, do you want me to pull it up on the screen, what you dropped into the chat?

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Section…. Um, well, this, this isn't on….

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Okay. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean it.

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In that, I could drop it into the chat. Um, so, um….

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So these… this U.S. This 26USC section.

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3,402. And it's F….

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And I-2 mandates that employees. Holding certificate.

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May form number, uh, Form W-4 is the exclusive basis for computing federal income tax.

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Withholding. Okay? They can't change that.

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No one can determine your taxable status. But you. And not a lawyer, not an accountant.

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Not your employer, none of that. That runs afoul of this IRS.

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Uh, this 26 USC. Section 3402.

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F and 1 through 2. Also, the regulatory requirement is that Treasury regulation.

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Is Section 31.3402. F, and 2-1.

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B. Provides that an employer must use the withholding allowance certificate.

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Furnished by the employee. And may not question its validity if it's properly completed.

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If an employee fails to furnish the W-4. Um, under Treasury Regulation 31.3402.

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F and 2-1A directs the employer to withhold at the single rate.

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With zero allowances. So, right there it says.

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They're not allowed. To change or judge your form.

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Mm-hmm.

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Only you can determine. Now, most employers. Are under the misimpression, because they have to certify those W-4s.

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Under penalty of perjury, that they're going to be liable for your taxes.

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If it's not done correctly. Wrong, okay? That is wrong, wrong, wrong.

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I worked HR for 38 years. For our family company.

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And I'm gonna tell you, the only time… the only time IRS would ever see a payroll form.

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Because those stay with the company. They stay in their employee… in the payroll file.

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The only time the IRS would see that form. Is if they came in and actually audit the business.

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For that particular form. Or they audited the business, and they had those forms mixed with their other files.

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So any of you who have businesses, you need to keep any payroll forms completely outside of.

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The rest of your file cabinets, so the IRS can't jump.

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Into those forms. Okay? That's a… that's a standard practice in… in… in payroll and in HR.

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Okay, so, um. Those two… and I'll… and I'll put those… those statutes and those regulations in there.

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So, they cannot question that. And you can report them to the IRS.

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For questioning your W-4. Only you can do that.

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Now, the other forms I put in there, because you are all non-resident aliens.

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Non-resident of Washington, D.C. And you're alien to their jurisdiction.

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That's what a non-resident alien. Means in the language.

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And so, I put in there a W8BEN. And a Form 8233.

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And the Ohio Assembly, we wrote an affirmation that has all the law in it.

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As to why you're a non-resident alien, what the law actually is.

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If you decide to submit a W8BEN, and the difference between the W8BEN.

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And the W4. Is a W-4 has to be filed every year before February the 15th.

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Between January 1 and February 15th. When you submit a W8BEN and an 8233 to support it.

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Along with your affirmation. It's a once and done.

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You're done. Forever and ever, as long as you stay in that job.

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Okay? So…. It would make more sense to do the W8BEN.

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Most employers are not even aware there is such a form that exists.

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And that's where the… that's where the…. Um, statutory regulation from the IRS comes in handy.

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Because you turn it in, and they can't question it. Plain and simple, okay?

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So, um, I always explain to people when I do my… my webinars on payroll taxes.

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You want to fill those forms out by hand. Okay? They're gonna constrain you in… some places constrain you into….

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A computer program, a payroll program, or a tax program to fill out those forms.

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And what you want to do is you want to fill those forms out by hand.

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And fill it out the way I put it in there in the information.

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Okay? And submit the handwritten form for your file. Do that before you fill out their computer program.

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Because what does that tell you? What does that do? That means that that determines your intent.

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Because their computer program. Constrains you to their program.

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They don't give you the choices you need to make to make an accurate and viable.

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Tax form, okay? Um, whether that's revocation of tax, or if that's, you know, declaration of your non-permanent, or your non….

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Resident alien status. Or, if you're….

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No, you're not going to be around in that job very long, and you just need to get a form in.

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For right now, or you're pressed to get a form in the W-4.

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Okay? And so…. Um.

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You want to put that intent in in handwriting, and ask them to keep that with your file.

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In their payroll file, that that goes with your form. So that when they print out your form from the computer.

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And you ask them to date it? And timestamp it, so that it is pre….

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Predates the form that they have. To determine your intent.

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Okay? Fill them out by hand. And so, most of the time, if you fill out a form by hand and submit it.

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They're gonna accept it. Now, I realize, Oregon, you've got… you've got… we've got some employers, too, that are so ignorant and so obstinate.

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That they're not gonna do that. What I would recommend is that you….

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Send the IRS code to them. That I… that I told you. Um, the 26USC….

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3402, you give that to them. And you let them know that that means they can't do that.

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And if they still do it, then I would report them to the IRS and fill out a criminal….

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Incident Report. And when your courts come up.

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Then I would charge them in your courts. I would take them to your court.

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The very person who tread on your rights. Okay? So, um….

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And… and make it stick. I… that's… that's basically what it is.

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But those forms, those should help you, and those cool codes should guide you along to make any employer who says.

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Wait a minute, I better go check this out. And the other thing is, is to notice the accountant who's in charge of your payroll, or your head of.

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Of HR, and to say, here's what USC… 26 USC says.

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Are you violating my rights under this… under this statute? Okay?

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So… so that's… that's what I would recommend that you do, okay?

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That's awesome.

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Now, they might still tread forward, but you have remedy to do… to….

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To do with it, as long as you're. You decide, and you may have to do that very quietly in the background, and when you get the opportunity.

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Um, and your cortis up to go after them that way, but to at least put the criminal incident report in.

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And let them know that you object to them violating. They're… the U.S.C codes.

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Okay? So….

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Now, Lisa, can you just clarify, when you were giving those codes, you said, um, like, 26 US, 340.

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I'll put it… I'll actually… I'll actually put it, and I'll just….

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Fni2… is it N like the letter N?

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Copy the text and put it in your chat. Then that way, everybody will have it straight out of.

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Super. Yeah.

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What it is, okay? All right.

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May I say one thing about the U.S. Eco real quick, and this is something that I literally figured out, like, a month ago.

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Um, if you take your USC code and, however you want to do it, if you do it through, like.

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I'm not advocating for AI, but somehow just say, figure out what the equivalent to the CFR code is.

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I am finding that it is way, way, way more effective, and this is something very new to me, too, so you just… whatever the code is, that's why I was trying to write it down, she said, uh….

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I actually didn't get all of it, but when you said that, Michelle, I was like, oh, good, yeah, put it in the chat, and then I'll convey it to the CFR code, because.

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Um, there's a different…. There's something different, there's something going on where the CFR code.

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Is way more executable in that way. So, I believe, and I'm just gonna say this, I know there are, like, a lot of conspiracy theories going around, but they put that USC code there to….

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Divert you. I'm not… I'm just putting it out there, because I've come to some serious understandings about.

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So you just look up what is the CFR code for.

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Whatever USC, blah, blah, blah. And it will give you that, and then you use that side of the banking, which is the private side.

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So, that's what I was talking about, the private and public. I don't want to be overly complicated, I'm gonna land. Thank you so much, Lisa, you're amazing.

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Awesome, thank you, Jocelyn. And thank you, Lisa. You came in at the perfect time, and, um, everybody….

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Just in case you're not paying attention to the chat, Lisa dropped in.

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Some, um, PDFs that you can download and save. She also.

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Typed in the statutory authority, the regulatory requirements, and the practical effect with some.

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Very important details. So, thank you, thank you, thank you. Um, alright, well, that was a ride, wasn't it?

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Going down the whole IRS situation, and of course, we know Anna's big announcement on Monday regarding.

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The Internal Revenue Service, or IRS, you know, being gone, so….

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Um, this might all be a moot point before too long anyway, so….

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Hallelujah! All right, we've got some hands up. Um, are you guys waiting for Anna, or did you want, um, did you want to open up your questions?

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Um, I see that J…. Uh, who was that? Sandra! Yeah, go ahead, Sandra.

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May I?

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I was wondering if Lisa could comment on the…. Um, W….

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I think it's T, where it terminates it. Do you have any knowledge of that? It's, like, hard to find on the internet.

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But does she have any knowledge on that?

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Uh, unfortunately, I do not, as far as termination. However. Um, I would say, Sandra, that… that, um.

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You know, our letters of revocation into the IRS. Um, and… and our receipts on that mailing should be, if.

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Have the… the common law effect of any form they have.

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For termination. Um, so I'll have to… I'll have to go and look that up a little bit, and give me a few minutes, and I'll research it and come back to you.

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If I could, real quick, it's the 2848, and it's the revocation of power of attorney, and that's what I was speaking about earlier.

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Uh, I do not recommend anyone doing this right off the bat. This is why I don't speak about it, but….

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If you have certain things in place where it has you fill out the representative's.

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Underneath what you're revocating. Then that's the goal. That's what I was saying about, send me an email, and that's what I'm….

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Gonna be teaching real soon, you just revocate the contract, the CAF number, and it collapses the trust. So, you do it on… you can do it on the employer.

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And then they would have no position to ever… you can do it on the county, they would have no position to ever charge you taxes. I am going to do it all on all these things on my own. I'm doing them, like.

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I've done, like, 4 of them so far. But when I get to the county, I'll let you know if anyone has county issues. When I get to the….

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Whatever, but I don't… I don't… I'm not employed like that, so I wouldn't know that if you wanna….

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Have me counsel you into what this does, then you can make your own decisions, but….

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That's how you revocate. You… you do it with the 2848.

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And I'm not putting it in the chat. I'm not doing that, because that's… no, that's it. Write it down.

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Yeah.

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Mayor Michelle?

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Hey, hi, Michelle. Oh, you're….

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I'm sorry, I muted myself, I didn't realize that. Sorry, Beth.

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Back to Alicia, then.

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So, yeah, it's important that we all remember that, you know, if you haven't read the 1779 in a while.

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Or, if you have not… if you've done your 928s. We do a cancellation power of attorney.

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And those… those cancellation powers of attorney are general cancellation. Powers of attorney that affect all powers of attorney that we've signed in our history.

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And… and so those are evidence. You know, properly, um….

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Signed and published, uh, witnessed and published. That we have revocated our powers of attorney, and they have absolutely.

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No power of attorney over us. It's in the 1779, and then anybody that's done the 928s and done their cancellation power of attorneys.

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It's also in there, and that is your… that is your backup evidence for all of that.

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So, you know, if you're not… if you're not sure, and you're not reading those documents.

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Go in and look at them. Start tearing them apart, and really, really read them carefully.

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Because there's a lot of remedy just in those documents. Um, regarding, you know.

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Um, anything that they have. Because in order to get personal jurisdiction.

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You've canceled… you've canceled all your powers of attorney! They have no personal jurisdiction.

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And they have no subject matter jurisdiction. So, it doesn't matter whether it's the IRS, the federal government, the state government.

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The local police department or anything else? Um, those forms should stand.

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Um, and…. You know, you have to know them inside and out, because they're not going to allow you just.

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To say, well, here's my magic paperwork. Because we don't have any magic paperwork. You have to know it.

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You have to comprehend it, and you have to be able to stand on it.

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And explain it. So, study those up, because that's… that's real important.

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And if I could add to that, I love that, Lisa, and what I would say about that is that there is a system where.

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I don't think people… the majority of people read the contract, like, I like to give the Kroger grocery store, okay? You went to go get a Kroger card, or whatever grocery store is in your area, right?

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And that you just, oh, yeah, they're telling me I'm gonna get….

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You know, discounts, whatever, you know? But you gave them. A power of attorney, and you didn't know that, you know? Same thing went with….

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You re-upped your driver's license, you didn't know that, but it's in the fine print, you know, somewhere, but….

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What I'm saying about that is you can utilize that POA that you already established on the private side.

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To execute on the public side, but that's where people are getting confused, and that's why people are like, oh, I don't….

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But that was a private document, and you can execute that on the public side if you know how to do that.

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And that is through the CAF number. With the IRS, and you just say, oh, I already said I did that 2 years ago.

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Here is my proof that I said that, which…. You technically don't even need that, because they just type it in the system, and if it's a minor child, they call about it.

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And that's it. And once you give them verbal, yes, I did revocate on blah blah blah, health and human services, yes.

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And they're gonna call me on Monday, and I'll confirm that next week. I land, but yeah, that's how the IRS code is set up for that, you know?

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So, IH completely agree with that, and I have tried to execute all of my private documents, but I didn't realize that.

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I was in the public when I was doing it, so that's why it wasn't working.

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And that's, I think, the key of realizing the public and the private side. So, I'll end there, but Lisa's amazing.

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So, so you give up… basically, that's the essence of the statement of giving up your liberties for convenience and safety.

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And the black cheddar will be included.

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Okay. Right.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, and you know, when you… when… given the idea of this, uh, Kroger card that Jocelyn was talking about.

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It's true. Um, I know it sounds conspiratorial, but they pay attention to what you're.

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Purchasing. You know what I mean? And they're, like….

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What they do, though, what they do, Michelle, is they take that name, and they trade it on the stock market.

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And they create a private member association on the private side, and then they trade you on the public side, and then they take the public assets from the public side.

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The debt, and I convey it. So whatever you spend. They bring it over onto the… into their trust.

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Wow, that's one.

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This is Melanie, may I? What Jocelyn's speaking about is Mosiah, and if you go back to the coordinator's call, I think it was April or May.

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Uh, Monica, our vetting. Our, um….

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She is our…. Oh my gosh. She's on… for vetting. She asked Anna about Mosiah.

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Because we had an individual that wanted to be our martial at arms.

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And she said he needs to get out of that. He cannot… you cannot do both.

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You do Anna's process.

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Oh, absolutely not. No, no, no, I am not. I'm a private banker, and that's it. No, there are no… nothing is attached to me. I'm just a private banker, and I only follow banking code. That's it.

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That's it. You don't follow… there's nothing outside of that, you only follow banking code.

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And that is it. That's the… the matrix is banking code.

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Through… through what is this through? Is this through Mosiah? Okay, I thought I heard you say Mosiah earlier.

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No, absolutely not. I do not… I'm not affiliated. I'm a… no, absolutely not, please, no, no, no. I am a private woman.

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And I'm willing to help people, no problem, because I just got my packet in for one situation, and I have a….

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Few days, if anybody needs help on anything, I can give you, like, a little bit of guidance. It has nothing to do with.

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Any group, it's just being a private bank, or being your own fiduciary.

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And telling them, you cannot be the fiduciary anymore, I'm going to be the fiduciary. That's it.

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That's all you… and if we do it all individually, then it would help, and by collapsing all the trusts. You just collapse it. Even if you don't do anything else.

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You know, you just collapse it. That's all I'm saying. No, it's not a… there's no cult here. I'm one woman, I meditate a lot, I teach yoga.

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No. No. And my email is givemeLibertyLLC. At proton.me.

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Thank you, Jocelyn. Go ahead, Lisa, sure.

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So, Michelle, may I…. Okay, so in the… in the course of the chat, um.

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Kevin on, uh, Washington State says, well, what about…. If you're leaving… if you're living off a 401K or an IRA.

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Or realize that there are some specific rules to that if you don't meet the minimum age.

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For withdrawing that, and that was part of the contract when you took those out.

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But if you're after that age. Then what I would suggest that you do is you float to them.

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Your W-A-B-E-N. Uh, Form 8233 and an affirmation.

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Now, and you can do that with your retirement as well.

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And, um…. And you're gonna get one of two reactions. You're either gonna get.

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Sure, no problem. We stop taxes. Or, you're gonna get….

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Um, the money managers, who's gonna tell the investment managers. That you're not allowed to do that.

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And usually, unfortunately, those money managers are Jewish in the background.

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Okay? Jewish firms. Um, that… that manage the… manage the money.

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And what I…. I ran into that when I got ready to do… when I got ready to retire 3 years ago.

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And, um, my investment manager told me that they would not accept my WABEN.

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And as a matter of fact, they were going to start taking out 30% tax.

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Because of… of…. My, uh, submitting a W-8BEN, telling them that I was a non-resident alien. They would just hold it.

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For my… my true… my government. To come and claim.

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And I explained to him that my government didn't. Didn't have taxes.

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Um, that it was the true…. The United States of America, not the corporation.

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United States of America, and they said they would absolutely not honor that.

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And so I went out. And at the time, um, my husband had an account.

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An IRA account at TD Ameritrade. Which is no longer… no longer in existence.

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Switched everything.

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And, um…. But they were just bought by Charles Schwab.

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And so, what I ended up doing was I sent my WABEN, my 8233, and my affirmation in.

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And told them that I would open an account. Predicated on the fact that they would accept.

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And acknowledge my WABEN, my 8233, and my affirmation. Okay? And I sent that in to them.

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And I waited. And I had to call. And it was sitting on their lawyer's desk.

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And I reminded him that he wasn't allowed to deny my tax forms.

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Right? And they opened my account the next day, and I rolled my entire….

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Um, uh, retirement account. My 401K, and all of the rest of my investments over.

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To Charles Schwab at that time. Lock, stock, and barrel. And my investment advisor called me up and went, uh, uh, uh, uh, you sent in… you just rolled everything out.

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Of your account. I said, yep, close my account.

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Well, why are you doing that? I said, you wouldn't accept my tax forms.

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So I'm out of there, I've got somebody who would. And I will tell you that in 3 years, I'm not paid a dime of tax on any.

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Of my retirement funds whatsoever. With Charles Schwab. So that's what I would recommend that you do, is….

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You… you… if… if they won't play nice in their sandbox.

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Then, um, I know that Charles Schwab. We'll play nice. And you just roll it over.

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And… and roll it out. They can't charge you any tax for doing that, for rolling it over. It's a simple transfer.

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And, you know, you just have them accept your tax forms before you, uh.

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Agree to transfer any funds. So, yeah, it's a little bit of extortion, but they're happy to do it to you.

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So… play hardball. And I yield.

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Awesome. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, um, we have several hands up, and I know that I asked… I sort of, like.

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Nebulus asked the question, is there, uh, anybody who has their hand up that you're waiting for Anna?

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Or would you like to ask your question now? Or make your comment.

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If I can make one last comment about the IRS real quick.

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Sure.

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Um, the IRS, and I'll make it real short, okay, it's real… it's gonna blow your mind that.

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The IRS is like a facilitator, okay? We look at it.

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About filing taxes, because… and I'm saying, you know, I just figured this out, so I don't… I've never filed my taxes properly either, you know? But….

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I believe that once we do it the way that. And I know it's satanic, I know, and I feel… I meditate all the time, I….

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Give praise, I, you know, whatever, but…. Like I said, the only way out is in. And we're about to be out, but….

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If you fill out their forms and do the stuff, like, I believe that if, you know, we're saying fill out a W-4, what's the difference between that and the 706?

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You're filling out an IRS form, what's the difference? You know? But anyway, the point is that the IRS, if you're filing properly.

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Will not take your money. You know, that… there… I'm not saying they come out and make… have bake sales about it or anything, but they… they….

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Have it in the instructions, like Lisa was saying, which is very important, like, the….

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The instructions will give you the key to any form. You just look up a form, read the instructions, read them again.

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Wait two days, come back, read it again, wait two days, come back, read it again, you know, that kind of thing. But the IRS is a….

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I look at it as a transmitting utility. I need something on… you have my private trust, and I want to access it.

00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:21.000
And that's to the IRS, because I've tried everywhere else, and there's nowhere else that's the IRS, you know, so… but the IRS is not necessarily to collect taxes if you're filing them right.

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You know? And that's through the gift tax. In general, because everything's a gift, but that's….

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You know, there are other things you have to have set up, and you have to make sure you know what you're doing, and you can file properly every 3 months, things like that, but once you do that.

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Then it's… it's all a gift, because income is not…. Tax reportable in the first place, or income, because it's not income.

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Wages, you know? That's a gift. A wage is a gift. That's how you need to look at it. The water is a gift.

00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.000
The electric is a gift. Everything is a gift from the Most High.

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All in there.

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Awesome. Thank you, Jocelyn. Okay….

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:06.000
Yeah, go ahead, Anita.

00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:13.000
Maya, Michelle. Uh, I had a quick question for Lisa. Uh, we have a man that did his.

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:22.000
Payroll papers last year. He's a pilot with UPS, and they accepted it last year, and now they're coming after him again.

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:30.000
Um, and somebody said that was because UPS is a…. Government employer, but….

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Uh, do you have any information on that? So I can give it to him.

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So, UPS…. Fedex, airlines.

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Uber, Lyft. Taxis, buses.

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All of those things are under commercial transportation. All of those things are governed.

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You know, working on the railroad. Those are all governed.

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Under, um…. They're, uh….

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Basic contracts regarding transportation. And commercial transportation.

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So, you know, I have a bunch of FedEx. Um, drivers on Ohio.

00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:27.000
Who… who have…. Gotten their taxes start… stopped, and then at one point this year, the IRS was ordering certain ones of them to have taxes collected.

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And, um…. Fedex is honoring.

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Those demands from the IRS. And it's based on their commercial.

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Licenses. Because they're using that in the exercise of a commercial activity.

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So, you know, when we're doing these things, we have to remember, you know, even those of you who might be driving Uber or Lyft.

00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:59.000
That is the commercial side of your driver's license, or driver's licenses are commercial contracts.

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And if you're doing that, you're operating in the commercial side.

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And they do, at that point, have a claim. Um, to those taxes operating in that… under that.

00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:20.000
Uh, commercial use of FRECT. So, we all know taxes are illegal. We all believe that we shouldn't pay that, but.

00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:30.000
Transportation is actually part of their contract. So, we have to be really careful about what we are signing up for when we sign up for it.

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Okay?

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Okay, thank you. I yield.

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You saw me ain? Okay.

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Sure, go ahead, Loretta. I'm calling on people because those with hands up aren't… aren't….

00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:55.000
Okay, um, Lisa, I just have a couple of questions. We're trying to finalize our, um….

00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:05.000
The structure guidelines and meetings document, and I just wanted to know, for the electors, um, it says in there that, um, because we're using our template, um.

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It says that the, um…. Each, uh, Missouri county shall hold an election to nominate and elect their electors during the month of December. The elector voted in by his or her county will start serving in that position on the first day of the new year.

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Is that for… is that meant to be for, like, all states that can use that, or is that just for your guys' state?

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Who do you work?

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So the intent behind that. Loretta was, and you really can't do the elector side of.

00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:51.000
Of your elections. So, the way our assemblies right now are direct Republican government, so we each have a hand and a vote in our.

00:56:51.000 --> 00:57:01.000
Assemblies. Eventually, our assemblies are gonna morph. As we get all of our counties standing, and that's an important key word.

00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:06.000
All of our counties. Standing, because that… at that point, that's the only time that we can.

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.000
Good morning.

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Lawfully really put the elector system in. That basically represents.

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By direct vote of the county. Their wishes and desires to the state.

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That's where, um…. That other, um.

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Take a statement of the safe house, not going around. Large enough? I don't know.

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Entity on our state. Comes into play, okay?

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.000
So we have to get… we have to get all of our….

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We have to get all….

00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.000
Hold on, Lisa. Hey, really quick. I'm gonna… I'm gonna… I'm gonna mute Loretta for a second, just because the background noise… I want to make sure people can hear what you're saying. That's okay, Loretta?

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Oh, great, sorry.

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So we have to get to the point where we've got all of our counties standing.

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Because they have to be equally. Represented.

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At our state. So we went ahead and put that in our documents in anticipation of.

00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:08.000
Someday, you know, remember we've got living documents, so someday. Each of our counties will be standing, and they will each provide electors.

00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:14.000
And as electors then become…. Part of our… the actual….

00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:22.000
Governing body of our state assemblies. Okay? We… they… they will bring our opinion from our counties.

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:30.000
To our state. Now, that doesn't mean we won't have a voice or can't go to a state assembly.

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But our representatives, our electors. Because we don't like calling them representatives, but that's what they are.

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Because they're going to be bringing our vote directly, and the difference is that when we do electors, our electors have a fiduciary duty.

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To present our county's vote at the state level. They can't change their mind.

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Like in the other system, they can't vote whatever they think is right for the county.

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They have to vote what the county. Voted, okay?

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:13.000
So, there's… there's some differences and some changes coming. Ohio just kind of put general language in their documents to take care of it.

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When the change happens. Does that make sense?

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:22.000
Okay, well, thank you for… it does, and thank you for that clarification. I just have one other question.

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Um, where it says that the Jural Assembly is also responsible for creating states and counties.

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Um, we're trying to clarify exactly how that happens. Um, is it the ASNs, the people? People create the state and the county through the General Assembly?

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Sure. So, let's… let's say…. For example, Ohio has 88.

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Counties of right now. And let's say that we have….

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A half a dozen that. We can't get stood up.

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And so, our Jural assembly at that point. In order to continue the business of the state.

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Could look at that and say. Well, we can annex those counties into XYZ County.

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And when we finally get people on that county. Then we can separate that county back out.

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But in the meantime. We can assume that.

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So, you know, we've got a few states, like, for example, Vermont.

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That they can't seem to get any representation, or any people standing.

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On Vermont, and get Vermont rolling. And eventually, Vermont could be, um….

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You know, New Hampshire. Or part of New York. Or part of Pennsylvania.

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Um, it… it just really depends, or, uh, Massachusetts. So it's, you know, it really depends.

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And the general assemblies would be the ones that would go through, then.

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And, um, have to…. Communicate that to the people of Vermont.

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They would have to, uh, vote on. Um, doing the annexation of that state.

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At that state level, and so with the Federation, of course. The Federation would have to approve that.

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But that's where it comes from, is in that juroral assembly.

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And if they don't… if they decide that they're not going to.

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Um, you know. Play with the rest in that way, rather than lose the territory, they would be annexed.

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And the same thing happens within your state. A county can be annexed. So, for example.

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Um, Alaska. Alaska has… has quite a few counties.

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But they really only have one or two counties that are populated.

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And Alaska turned around and determined that. Um, because of the sparseness of the populations in the other counties.

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They were going to do one county. And so, they essentially voted, among them.

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To annex all of those counties in Alaska to one county.

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Plain and simple, and that came through their drural assembly at the time.

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Thank you so much for that explanation. That just explains so much, and completely different from what we were thinking, so….

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I want to take that back to the Assembly, and I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

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Okay. Uh-huh.

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Bye.

01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.000
Thank you, Lisa. And thank you, Loretta. Yeah.

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Um, this is Annie. Uh, Michelle, I had a question going back to the taxes that Lisa was talking about before we get too far away from it.

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Yeah, sure.

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Um, we've got. Lady that we're helping in the litigation committee on Arizona, and she has that exact issue. I think she drives for….

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I don't know, Uber, or Lyft or something like that? And we've been helping her do the void for Fraud and all that stuff in the… make sure revocation of election and everything is done.

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Um, are you saying that…. It doesn't work for her.

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Can give me a little bit more, because I don't want to misdirect her.

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Uh, we weren't aware of this.

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Okay, so a lot of people are not aware of, when you sign up for Uber or Lyft.

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You are then driving on the commercial side. And, um, so originally when… when Uber and Lyft came out, if you… if anybody remembers.

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Um, you had to check with your personal. Insurance company.

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Because you had to have additional commercial riders. In order to drive for Lyft or Uber back then.

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Now that Uber and Lyft, they kind of have put their own insurance division.

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Together, and… and they will take an indemnify you as a driver.

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It's still commercial insurance. And when you… when you pick up, remember the language of traveling.

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If you have a companion in the car. And you are a traveler, and you have a fellow traveler.

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You are traveling on the life… lawful. Right to travel.

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Um, under your rights of the Declaration of 1776. As a free man or woman.

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But the minute you put a passenger. Which means that they've paid you.

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To drive them somewhere. You have entered over onto the commercial side.

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And your driver's license. As we all know, is actually a commercial driver's license. That's why.

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Normally, if you can get a passport and use your passport card.

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Instead of your driver's license. Um, then most of the time, you can.

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You know, I wouldn't say… unless there's harm involved. You're gonna be left alone.

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Because of that passport card that… that says that you're traveling in the private.

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Okay? But when you… when you take a passenger, when you are paid to transport someone from one place to the other.

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You are driving on the commercial side.

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So then, uh, this $20,000 tax bill that she has going back to 2020, she's liable for all that. We can't help her.

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Is that what you're saying? As far as I know, yeah.

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Well, is it all from Uber or Lyft? Because if it's not all from Uber or Lyft, she would only be liable for.

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The portion of it that came from her commercial. Activities.

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This is where records are real important. Okay? So, you know.

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Um, she's gonna have to look at those fares and see.

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You know, what those fares were. And… and what the tax liability on those fares would be.

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Okay, I'm assuming it's whatever she put in. So then, I need to tell her that, uh, doing the… the stuff that we're doing for revocation of election isn't gonna help her.

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Not on… not on those particular items. Okay.

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Correct? Okay, I will let her know. Thank you, I yield.

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Well, you know, can I, uh, interject on this as a….

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Sorry.

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Sure.

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Really coming from an innocent place. You know, I'm not an expert whatsoever when it comes to the three-letter agencies, okay?

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So, um, I really am coming from…. A place of total ignorance in this particular regard, and so my question would be.

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Um, you know, when Anna talked about transport… transportation. Being a federal activity. She talked about it in relation to alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.

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And the transport of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, specifically as it relates to crossing state lines.

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Not within…. One's own state, at least that I recall.

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And so, when it comes to this idea of transportation. It isn't, from my comprehension, and this is why I'm asking the question, Lisa.

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Is it… is it that all of transportation is considered federal, quote, income?

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Or is it specific to alcohol, tobacco, and firearms transport?

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So… so, under… under the commercial term, and you have to remember, we're… we're separating commercial terms.

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And commercial licensing. Okay? And that's where… that's where it gets very dicey in there.

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Um, for…. Um, the….

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Um, commercial activities. And… and so, you know, if we're traveling in our private capacities, again, you've got private, you've got.

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Public. You've got… you've got private, and you've got commercial. And so, when you… when you go over, you know, we had somebody on Ohio.

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Who, um…. Uh, was in his private vehicle, but he was transporting product over a state line and got pulled over for a license plate. Well, there you go.

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Okay? Um…. And, you know, when it comes to.

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Taxation, they tax commercial. Commercial entities.

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When you're driving commercially… commercial. You are using….

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When you have a passenger, you're using your all-caps name in that driver's license.

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That commercial…. Portion of your driver's license, not your private capacity.

01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.000
Right? So there's…. There's….

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000
Yeah, it would be, like, livery, um, if you've got… if you've got, um.

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.000
Right! That's exactly what it is. Yeah.

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Because the definition of driving in this… in this…. Context, well, really, in all… in all the contexts, is….

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That you're driving commercial, quote, driving commercially, and you're doing it for hire. Like, you're… someone hired you, and then by definition, the one that did is called a passenger.

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And so, um…. But this is a really fascinating question, because….

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That's right.

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That still wouldn't make the man or woman a federal. Income earner, or a….

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Date income earner. So, um….

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This is a really, really good… this is a juicy learning opportunity, I think, to.

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Confirm, you know, with Anna when she comes on, and there might be someone on the call that's already done a.

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Kind of deep dive on this, and I know you have, Lisa, so you're really, really versed in this, and I super appreciate.

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Your support in helping to untangle…. And….

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Well, I wouldn't say… I wouldn't say that I'm well-versed. But… the thing is, is that… is that you are engaging.

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In, um, basically a commercial contract at that point. And… and so, you know.

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We say we don't need a driver's license for our right to travel unless we're driving commercially.

01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:37.000
And the minute we take a fare, and we take a paycheck from it.

01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.000
And we put somebody in our car, and we call them a passenger.

01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:48.000
Right? That's taking a fare. And so we… we place that on the commercial side.

01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:55.000
Which all driver's licenses are actually commercial because of our use of FRUC that is on our driver's license.

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Are all cap name. Okay? So we're taking ourselves out of that private travel… right to travel.

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.000
And into the commercial. For hire.

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Um, because remember, Anna, she used to. Just write on your driver's license, retired not for hire.

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There's the difference, right there.

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Mayor, this is Doug.

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This is funny, man.

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By the way, that… that works. That works. I actually did get pulled over for, uh, at night the other night. I didn't know I had a burnt-out brake light on the back.

01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:42.000
And I'm like, oh, great. Woo! You know, and I gave him… I did. I pulled out my card, and then I was like, oh, you know what? I'm just gonna give him this stupid driver's license, and he flipped it over, and on the back, I have it all in gold.

01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.000
And he was looking at it, and he was like, do you know why I stopped you? Like.

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No idea. And he said. Got a burnout brake light.

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You know, and I was like, oh, man, thanks for telling me, I'll get that fixed.

01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:01.000
And it was a pleasant little… I mean, dare I say it was pleasant.

01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:12.000
But he was like, alright, be safe, you know. It was super easy. Um, but anyway, I saw Doug first, and then I also saw Jason with an open mouth emoji, so go ahead, Doug.

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Yeah, so it's 8…. Okay. 18 USC….

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And I… Annie, I have one more question, too.

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31a, 6, and 10 defines the….

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Super-duper.

01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:34.000
Could you put that in the chat? And my other question, Lisa, is would we do an offer and compromise?

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If we cannot get the, uh…. Taxes removed for revocation of election.

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Of course, you could… you could do that. You could do an offer, you could do a conditional acceptance.

01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:47.000
And I yelled.

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Um, you know, you can look up conditional acceptance. Um.

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Conditional.

01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.000
That might not work so much in this case because of the commercial nature of it.

01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:02.000
Um, but yeah, you could make a… you could make them a….

01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:06.000
Try to work a deal with them.

01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:13.000
Okay, I think that we already did this for settlement, um, enclosure of the account, where you….

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Do the stuff, like, on the MOSI. And we did all that.

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Alright, thank you. How are you?

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Yeah. Okay, but then after that, you know, um, if you do… if you do that, MOSI.

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And you get no response from them. Then you… you more than likely can go ahead and write a conditional acceptance.

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If you go to AI, it'll help you write the conditional acceptance.

01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:46.000
And you do a conditional acceptance, and you say, hey. You know, you… I offered to pay you.

01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:52.000
And, um, I've not heard from you, and you've not accepted my payment or made my payment.

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Therefore, I consider the debt…. Settled.

01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:58.000
Okay? And… and you can go at it from that way and see if you get a response.

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Okay.

01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:03.000
I have to give them 10 days. Okay.

01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:07.000
Fantastic. You know, we'll try everything we can. Why not? All right, thank you so much.

01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:17.000
Exactly. Throw the spaghetti up on the wall and see if it sticks.

01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:18.000
Michelle?

01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:24.000
Thanks, Ani. Thanks, like, thanks, Lisa. Um, okay, Jason, you had an open mouth a little bit ago, and then I'll go to whoever that was. Go ahead, Jason, did you still have an open mouth?

01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:31.000
Yeah, um, when Lisa was talking about the faith and counties, I just want to reiterate this, because there's a lot of misinformed.

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People out there, so…. There's a lot of states that are held up because they're trying to build up their counties first.

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Without your state, you're worthless. I'm just sorry. I'm just gonna tell you that.

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You gotta get your state up, because we're doing this back… we're doing this backwards, coming out of the sea.

01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:54.000
Back onto the land, not like our founding forefathers, who were here in the land.

01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:01.000
So, get your state up, and then by…. Getting your state up, it will trickle down and get your counties up.

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At the end of the day, yes, your county is the highest law of the land, but without your state.

01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:13.000
You can't do international business. And so, I just wanted to put that point out there for everybody.

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Because tonight, there's…. 203 participants on this call.

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And there's a lot of people out there that's like… I keep hearing county, county, county.

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If your state's not standing and seating, your county's worthless. You're done. You can't do anything.

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I yield.

01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.000
And that's correct, Jason. 100%. You need to be concentrating on your state.

01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:39.000
Yes, you're populating your county. At the same time you're populating your state.

01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:46.000
And your county should be learning the organization. From and through your state.

01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:54.000
And they'll… they'll change some things on their county. But you're gonna be… you're gonna be setting up those things.

01:15:54.000 --> 01:16:02.000
Once you get your state set up. Your counties become much easier to set up in their governance.

01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:09.000
Because you have a model, and you have…. Some of your state structure together to be able to do that.

01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:16.000
And so, concentrating only on counties. Um, is not going to get your state standing.

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:21.000
And as I've… I tried to explain it as. You know, when Anna….

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Uh, and James stood up the Federation of States. They wrapped a great big.

01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:33.000
Giant hug around all 50 states. And they protected them.

01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:40.000
And our… as a state, our first job is to wrap our arms around our county and protect them.

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000
We have to stand our states first. And that'll….

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.000
And to piggyback off that… oh, I'm sorry, Lisa, I thought you were done, sorry.

01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:55.000
And then that allows our counties. To be protected while they are developing their counties.

01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:01.000
And it allows them to protect their cities, townships, and villages.

01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:06.000
So it's this giant…. Wrap around that trickles down through our state.

01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:11.000
And by the way, tomorrow is the one-year anniversary of HIO.

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Operating as a public government.

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.000
Congratulations, Lisa, and Ohio Assembly. Um, but just to piggyback off that, because….

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:21.000
In one meeting. Yep.

01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:27.000
The last couple months. There's a lot of misinformed individuals.

01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:32.000
People out there talking about county… I'm sick and tired on these Thursday nights, talking about county.

01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:38.000
If your state's not standing and seating. Stop talking about your county.

01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:44.000
He'll backtrack. And then also, uh…. Oh, shoot, I just lost my train of thought, I apologize.

01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:49.000
It's real critical, um…. We talked about it earlier.

01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.000
If you only have one county that's populated in the whole state.

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:59.000
And your state standing and seating, and you have, like, 250 counties in that state, and you're trying to capture, and Anna always talks about.

01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:03.000
Hey, we can… we can expand our state lines and… and….

01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:08.000
And get Kansas Territory involved, if some states are not, you know….

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:13.000
If they don't hold over that land. He was talking about, we can annex other states.

01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:20.000
Same thing with your county. If your state has 300 counties, you only have one county. If your state's standing and seeding, and you only have one or two counties stood up.

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:25.000
Those one or two counties can annex the rest of the state and create one county for the whole state.

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Just to make things simpler and easier.

01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:35.000
Thank you, Jason. We love your passion. You're a passionate guy, Jason.

01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:44.000
Um, so I think what, uh, regarding this one county, you know, so when we stand up our state, that's our State of the union, right? When we… when we stand up the counties.

01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:53.000
Ultimately, the whole patchwork quilt within the. Borders of our state, right? Um, that is our union state, so….

01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:59.000
Um, it does make sense that. You know, if you've got sparsely populated.

01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:03.000
Areas or counties. That one state, um….

01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:09.000
Union state makes sense. So, um….

01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.000
Thank you for that contribution there, Jason. Yeah, Barbara, go ahead.

01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:22.000
Michelle? I just want to ask to be sure, I don't remember whether you said in the beginning, is the, um, evening being recorded already? I hope you recorded.

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Oh, yeah. It is, yeah.

01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.000
Oh, totally. Thank you. That's it. I yield.

01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:31.000
And the other thing, so I don't know who it is on the call, you know, it's fine, but….

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There's always, um, when someone joins the call, you know, I hit the admit button, and, like, 20 people come in at a time.

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There's always a, like, an AI bot. That as soon as I let them in, it asks me to, um, allow.

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Recording, like, transcript recording. And so, um….

01:19:54.000 --> 01:20:02.000
That's happening, too. But I don't know who that is. I just know that there's a… some kind of an AI bot.

01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:07.000
That someone uses, and it transcribes the meeting, apparently. So, um….

01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:14.000
Or they just have the bot come in, like, infiltrator, you know, Vivens.

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.000
Even if it's not a real entity, it could still be Bibbins, you know?

01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.000
Oh, could be. Mmm, we know how well-funded they are.

01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:27.000
Because it would especially be Bivvins, yeah. I don't know, I don't know, I think that Mike might know, if Mike's on the call, like.

01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:33.000
How we could track the…. In and out of that, because, I mean, you know, like, when….

01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.000
Um, you're on, like, a X or Twitter feed, I don't really call it X, but….

01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:44.000
Or whatever, social media, you know? So they have a bunch of bots, or YouTube, anything, you know?

01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:53.000
There is an algorithm that…. I mean, I feel like it's as easy as a FOIA. I don't know how we do it on ours. I could do it on YouTube, but DeFoya Who is….

01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:58.000
In and out at a certain time, so that you could track down the….

01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000
Disgusting bots that put. Weird, shady-handed comments in the chat. Not here, but….

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:08.000
If that is the case, it's infiltrating probably from Meta. I'll land.

01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:17.000
I think Zoom has an AI recording thing. That's an option that you can use.

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:22.000
Could it be that, that somehow it got…. Turned on.

01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:23.000
Michelle?

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:36.000
Yeah, actually, I do have that automatically for, um…. Because it does the summary, and you know, when I post to the… to the Rumble channel, I put the AI summary.

01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:44.000
That way, when people… because sometimes people are like, man, what was the… what week was that meeting when you guys talked about, you know, fill in the blank?

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:48.000
And then I'm like, oh, geez, I'm a wheeze. I don't remember what day that was.

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.000
But I can go through the summary in the… on the Rumble and find it there.

01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:02.000
So it kind of helps, um…. It kind of helps, you know, that there is a summary. I kind of like that, even though it doesn't always.

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Transcribe with proper style, you know? Like, it might not say, you know, THE California Assembly with a capital T or a capital A, right? So….

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Those little nuances. We have to use our own discernment, but as far as the.

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That thing could let bots in, too. I'm just saying, when you let an AI record, it could have, like, a team of bots, too. If you're saying you think it's a bot, I mean….

01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:32.000
We could put a notice to Zoom and let them know. I don't know, I'm just saying.

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Well, you know, the way I look at it. This is just a Michelle says, okay.

01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:41.000
I look at it like, we own all those companies anyway.

01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:46.000
Absolutely, you do, and that's why you just gotta fill out a form and take them back. Exactly, exactly, Michelle, exactly.

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Yeah. And the other thing….

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The other thing I learned recently, that people are falling in love with their bots. Have you guys been hearing about this phenomenon? Like.

01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:05.000
There's a whole…. I know, exactly. This is the whole point, is there are people that spend so much time interacting.

01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:13.000
With their… their bot, right? And then their bot has a name, let's say. You know, Josie, the bot, or whatever, and um….

01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:22.000
And there's a phenomenon happening where people, um…. Are… the bot is telling them.

01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:28.000
Like, telling their owner of the bot, uh. Or the user of the bot, um….

01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:34.000
Like, I feel your heart, or like, it'll say random stuff like that, and people are like.

01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:40.000
And they're, like, believing it. You see what I'm saying? They're like, oh my gosh!

01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:45.000
My AI bought…. Talk to me, and said, it felt my heart.

01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:49.000
Isn't that amazing? And I'm like, no, it's not. It's a machine. Okay, like….

01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:56.000
Don't lose it, okay? Stay sane, people. Stay sane, all right?

01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:01.000
Anyhow, a little… a little levity. Um.

01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:07.000
All right, so we're still waiting for Anna. She was supposed… she was hoping to be here by about 6.15.

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California time, so… or 515 Alaska time. So we're still kind of waiting. This was one of those, uh, impromptu evenings where we didn't really know what was going to happen, but I haven't heard from her since, like, hey, I'm gonna be later than I thought, or anything like that, so….

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Um. Yeah. And I'm assuming, still, that the hands that are up are for Anna.

01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:39.000
Just assuming. Although I learned in the 70s, I think it was, like.

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:50.000
An episode of Archie Bunker or something. Don't assume. Those of us that are old enough remember that episode. What was it? Was it Archie Bunker, you guys? I forget.

01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.000
Anyhow, hilarious.

01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:54.000
Who's Archie Bunker?

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I was gonna say an example… sorry, go ahead, Jason.

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Jason is so young. Be quiet, Jason. Just be quiet. He's, like, the youngest one in the room.

01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:06.000
Who is our… oh my goodness, I'm dating!

01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.000
Well, you know what, that… that gives me hope for the future, that we've got young people that have no idea.

01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:14.000
For real. He's taking care of it.

01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:19.000
You have to go and Google all in the family. And it was funny!

01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.000
Yep. All in the family, and the Jeffersons.

01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.000
Yeah, well, they were just funny, I thought.

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Well, you know what, that was back in the day when no one cared. Like, there was no… you know, everyone… it was… it was already, like, kumbaya, but, you know, I don't know who took over the, the, uh, you know.

01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:41.000
The universities and colleges and high schools around here that are, like, they, like.

01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:42.000
Sucked the brain out of….

01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:45.000
Can't be a snowflake and watch All in the Family.

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I mean, you knew Archie Bunker was an ass. And he turned into….

01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:58.000
Learning a little more, especially from his son-in-law, who is doing… the whole show.

01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:04.000
But, you know, that was a long time ago. I'm older than most of you.

01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:05.000
Or Don Rickles. You guys remember Don Rickles? Sorry, I know we're not talking about assembly business right now while we're waiting for Anna, but Don Rickles.

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If not all of you, so….

01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.000
Yeah.

01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.000
He offended everybody.

01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:22.000
Oh my gosh, nowadays, I mean. Nowadays, there would be, like, a lynching. I mean, there would be….

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I mean, it's no laughing… lynching is not a laughing matter.

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But my point is…. People are so sensitive, you know?

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No, I wasn't laughing at that, I apologize.

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Or George Carlin.

01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:34.000
Oh, George Carlin, right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Super.

01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:47.000
Oh, amazing. And something I was gonna say, I don't know, I'm a 77 baby, but, like, and I remember this. Back in the day, and it's weird, because, like, you… you… I've walked through.

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Many a forest and picked up many a rock, right? But, I don't know, and I don't… I… I….

01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:56.000
I think, Michelle, you and I are, like, similar age, but….

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Listen to what I'm about to say. Sit, oobu, sit, Michelle. Michelle. Sit, ub-bu, sit.

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God bless you. Thank you. I will take that.

01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:06.000
You know exactly what I'm talking about! You know what that was? Did you ever… when you….

01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.000
That would…. Yeah, that would come… that was, like, a production company or something.

01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.000
When you were little, though, did you… were you like, why are they putting that out there? Let me tell you why.

01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.000
Yeah.

01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:23.000
Because it was completely MKUltra. Every night, we would watch Patty Duke, I don't know if you guys are into this or whatever, we watch, uh….

01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:28.000
Mr. Ed first, and then Patty Duke, and I was, like, I was always like.

01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:36.000
My life is so horrible that I didn't get to live during Patty Duke's time, you know? Like, things like that. But then it would be like, after Patty Duke, it would be like.

01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:44.000
There'd be one more thing or something, but after that, it'd be sit, ooboo, sit. That was completely in your face! They were putting….

01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:53.000
Subliminal messages in there, in the wording. And then they… and then, let me finish off with this, then they played the national anthem.

01:27:53.000 --> 01:28:01.000
If that is not satanic, I do not know how to help you, okay? They put, oh, say, across the screen.

01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:07.000
And then they blocked out words, numbers. To say, do not, whatever your government.

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:11.000
I'm not kidding you. I have a video about it, but I actually… it's a knowing.

01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:16.000
You know, it's crazy. Anyway, sit, Ubu, sit, Ellen.

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:22.000
I totally remember that. I don't remember the national anthem part, but I do remember.

01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.000
The sit-ubu-sit thing. Yeah.

01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:30.000
Well, right after that, it did, like, some kind of closing off thing, where it was like, we're closing it off. Who else remembers that? Because….

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:31.000
They would be like, oh, sick kid. Excite, Robin! There's my girl.

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:32.000
Oh, alright.

01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:37.000
I was at the end of the night, you know, it was at midnight, and the….

01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:38.000
You had no more programming! That was it.

01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:44.000
Yes, exactly! Oh, you were done with programming, you can go to sleep.

01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:49.000
Well, and there you go, right there. It was programming. Right? They tell you!

01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.000
They tell you what they're doing, just like the doctors are practicing.

01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.000
That's why they're calling you, exactly!

01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:55.000
Or when people say, I'm watching my programs, you're like, oh, that's horrible.

01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:00.000
Not practicing with me.

01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:12.000
All right, so we've got, um, uh, Rebecca saying, can we focus, please? So let's focus. Where is Anna? Let's focus all of our energy on getting Anna on the call.

01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:24.000
Um, let's see here, I'm gonna text her really quick, and just see if I can get an ETA out of her, because I know we've still got hands, and I know… I realized why you're not unmuting and telling us.

01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:28.000
That you're waiting for Anna, because you're going to lose your spot in line.

01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:32.000
Zoom has that weird feature now that if you unmute yourself and say a few words.

01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:36.000
And then you mute yourself again, it'll just, like, time you out and drop your hand, so….

01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:43.000
I don't… I don't blame you for not wanting to unmute. Okay, hi, Anna.

01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:55.000
Just checking your ETA….

01:29:55.000 --> 01:30:00.000
All right.

01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:05.000
Okay. Well….

01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:06.000
Hey, Michelle, it's from Hawaii.

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:12.000
Uh, yeah. Melissa! Hey, Melissa! How's it going in Hawaii? Hi!

01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.000
It's going really well, how are you? Love it.

01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.000
Doing great. I mean, listen, it's a 3-day weekend coming up, so….

01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:25.000
Oh, that's right! Woo! Hey, I have a question at the risk of, um.

01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:30.000
Sounding stupid or, you know, I know Anna was really frustrated with, uh.

01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.000
There are no stupid questions.

01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:43.000
Well, thank you. Um, I know Ana was really frustrated. Last week, when she was talking about the recordings and different ways that we could record and accept things.

01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:48.000
I'm still trying to figure out. How GFG is considered.

01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:58.000
Published, because, um…. I totally understand if somebody's been on the LRS, we're gonna have copies of their documents that have.

01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:04.000
Publishing stickers and stamps and seals, even though that system is now down, so we can show that.

01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:11.000
We can show on the LRO, we can show the tear sheets from newspapers, you know, whatever it is, we can evidence it.

01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:17.000
But how do we actually evidence anything with GFG? Because the documents have not changed.

01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:24.000
You know, what's been uploaded has not been stamped or anything like that, and when we go to search it on the E-Verify.

01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:30.000
It doesn't show us what documents were submitted. So we can't actually….

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:38.000
If we ask them for copies of what was submitted, we actually don't know what they submitted until this whole system admin training is complete and we have access.

01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:45.000
Um, is… am I missing something? Are they, like, published for a split second somewhere, where, you know.

01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:47.000
They're out there in the world?

01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:55.000
Okay, this is a really, really important topic, okay, because…. First and foremost, there's two things going on.

01:31:55.000 --> 01:32:03.000
One is, people are getting status corrected. And they're free to be, and they're free to get their publishing done.

01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:08.000
Whether it's LRO, a state LRO, you know, state assembly LRO.

01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:16.000
Global family group, newspaper. The court documents, like, all the things that Anna said, right? And those are all….

01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:22.000
Perfectly fine and good. Then there's people that want to volunteer for your assembly.

01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:27.000
Right? They want to step up and they want to serve. Let's say they want to be a….

01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:33.000
As State Assembly Recording Secretary. Or they want to serve as a, you know.

01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:37.000
I don't know, county coordinator, or a state coordinator, or a….

01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:41.000
One of the officials. Or… or other kind of an officer.

01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:47.000
Um, if they want to serve, then there's a vetting process.

01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:51.000
So, first and foremost, you've got to have a vetting committee.

01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:56.000
That is, uh. That your assembly.

01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:03.000
Knows about. Those vetters need to be vetted. Okay, so you gotta have a vetted vetting committee.

01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:06.000
And then the vetting committee is ultimately the one that's responsible.

01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:17.000
For confirming the recording and the publishing of the documents. So, um, Anna made it really, really clear through this whole, you know, there was a little bit of a public.

01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:22.000
Process happening on California this week. You may have all… you may have noticed it.

01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:29.000
Um, and…. But it's really clear that Anna was talking about evidence.

01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:32.000
If you want to serve on your state assembly, there should be.

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:38.000
Evidence, um, up on LRO. Then there was this whole, like, well, wait.

01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:45.000
Where does the evidence have to go? Da-da-da-da. And then Anna even made it clear that actually it's a favor to the LRO.

01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:48.000
Okay, it's a… it's even a favor to the LRO that.

01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:52.000
That it's going to be put there. And it's really, ultimately.

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:59.000
Sub, uh…. It's for the volunteer… people who want to volunteer and hold a position.

01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:08.000
Of some sort, and it's up to the vetting committee. To do that… do that background checking, you know, interviewing to determine.

01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:12.000
Status correction, conflicts of interest, and whether or not they have any.

01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.000
Criminal, uh, criminal impairments that are related to the role that they're seeking and whether or not.

01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:18.000
Sure.

01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:26.000
There… it would impede their ability to do that role. You know, so vetters have a very, um….

01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:33.000
They have a very…. Narrow job. Their job isn't to.

01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:46.000
Approve of…. A man or a woman who wants to serve. Theirs is to identify those three things and let the Assembly know whether or not they're eligible to serve. Then it's up to the.

01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:47.000
Assembly to determine. So, if there's a lack of trust, let's say.

01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:51.000
Right, right.

01:34:51.000 --> 01:35:02.000
If there's a lack of trust for your vetting committee. Then that needs to be dealt with in-house. Why don't… what would the vetting committee have done.

01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000
That would have you think that they didn't do the background checking.

01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.000
Or what have you, you know what I mean? What's the concern?

01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:10.000
So, yeah, go ahead.

01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:17.000
Well, okay. I guess maybe I should clarify. What I'm trying to understand is how is GFG considered publishing?

01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:24.000
Because we don't get… so, like, my documents are both on… they're on the LRO, they're in Alaska, and they're in New Mexico.

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:30.000
I have copies of all of those documents with recording confirmation on every single one of them.

01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:31.000
Mm-hmm.

01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:39.000
When we upload our documents to GFG, we do not get a copy of those documents back, they're not changed, even if you look at your uploaded and your My Profile section.

01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:40.000
Mm-hmm.

01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:47.000
There's nothing that shows that they've been accepted and published. The only thing we can do is take our recording number that GFG gives us and put them in the E-Verify that GFG offers for their system.

01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:52.000
Mm-hmm.

01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:59.000
But that does not pull up any of the documents. It doesn't say what was submitted, it doesn't show any acknowledgement that they were ever.

01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:10.000
You know, um…. Published, basically, and so I'm trying to understand… we have this whole thing on Hawaii right now where we're kind of going in circles of trying to understand.

01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:16.000
How is GFG technically ever publishing our documents? Because by definition, publishing means public.

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:17.000
They do have… they do say accepted on the GFG site.

01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.000
And I don't see what…. They say accepted, yeah, but there's no stamping on the document itself.

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:27.000
If you go to your documents.

01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:35.000
Okay, well, here's… here's… here's something to consider. What did we do before the internet?

01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:39.000
Walked it down to the county courthouse.

01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:40.000
Mail?

01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:49.000
Right. We did… we could do that. We could also…. Hang our documents to color… well, color photocopy, or original, uh, duplicate.

01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:57.000
Hung up in a public, um…. Public building could be your county library, community board.

01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:07.000
County Sheriff's Office, County Courthouse. Um, post office, you know, that's how come, like, they still, to this day, you can go to the post office.

01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:13.000
And C wanted. Right? They still post….

01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.000
Paper wanted signs, you know, and then, like, there's, you know.

01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:22.000
Mugshots of people that the criminals that they're hunting for, right?

01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:27.000
And that's because…. Internet is a new thing.

01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:35.000
Publishing doesn't only happen on the internet. So….

01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:41.000
It's a platform that's available for publishing, because it is… it is public.

01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:47.000
And Global Family is, by nature of the tool, it is an international.

01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:54.000
Global system. So it's not local.

01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:55.000
It's… br…. Much more broad. Um, yeah, go ahead, Rocky.

01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:03.000
Michelle, can I say something? Um, when you publish on GFG.

01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:10.000
You have to get them… your papers notarized and stamped and everything.

01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:11.000
Mm-hmm.

01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:17.000
Prior to putting them on GFG. So, what she's asking, that they're not getting stamped from them, they're already stamped, you're just publishing that.

01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:18.000
You understand what I'm saying?

01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:25.000
But I'm asking is, how are they considered published? How are they considered seen by the public? Because I don't see….

01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:33.000
How anyone is ever able to actually put their eyes on the papers that are uploaded to become a public.

01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:37.000
Publishing? And is there… is there something I'm missing in that?

01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:43.000
Melissa, I have the same question on that, because if you go to their Verify on.

01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:48.000
Gfg, and else you actually know the publishing number. You actually really can't see anything.

01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:55.000
Well, and if you know the publishing number, it only comes back with a sentence that says, yes, we're verifying that they are recorded.

01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:08.000
There's… there's no… there's no display of the documents themselves. And you… so we don't know what was actually submitted. So, as… as a recorder, as the… the coordinator and a recorder.

01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:17.000
Um, a recording secretary, I can ask them for copies of what they submitted to GFG, but I don't know if what they're giving me is actually the same as what they submitted.

01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:26.000
So then, there's, like, this weird loophole step. Of… if I'm accepting what they've submitted, but.

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:36.000
I don't know exactly what was submitted, and I'm just taking that recording number, and they don't want to be on the LRO, they don't want to be whatever, but they want to be part of the assembly. There's kind of this….

01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:45.000
Small little black hole that a lot of people can fit into. And I mean, yes, we're supposed to assume that everybody's being honest, but we also want a paper trail, right?

01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.000
Is it making sense?

01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:54.000
Well, can I… can I speak to that, Melissa? Because when… and I'm assuming it's still the same. When Global Family first came out.

01:39:54.000 --> 01:40:01.000
And we were able to self-upload. I'm just gonna call it upload.

01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:08.000
Um. It… the paperwork itself went through a vetting process. There was someone trained.

01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.000
At Global Family. That, um….

01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.000
They scrutinized the documents. And there was feedback about the documents.

01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.000
Yes.

01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:27.000
Right? And they wouldn't…. They wouldn't be issuing your, um….

01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:36.000
The accounts were not considered. Complete unless you could do your minimum $17.79 and 2 witness testimonies.

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:42.000
Then there was all the other documents if you wanted to do your declaration of political status, your fee schedules, your.

01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:48.000
Fsia, your assumed names, you know, all… you could do all the other ones, too, but at minimum.

01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:56.000
They were not cons… they were not, um…. Sort of releasing and unlocking your account.

01:40:56.000 --> 01:41:06.000
To any of the deposits and the other things without the verification. They were verifying. The staff at Global Family was verifying.

01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:16.000
So, unless there is a concern that. That there's, you know, you think that people at Global Family are not doing their job.

01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:21.000
The intent is certainly there. The intent of, I've got.

01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:26.000
My status correction documents. And I'm going through this platform that has.

01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:35.000
Actual people scrutinizing my documents. And allowing the publishing to occur.

01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:45.000
So… then the, um, evidence would be that number. So, as long as you have that number.

01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:51.000
And global family could confirm. The state of your… your state.

01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:57.000
You know, they confirmed, you know, I'm a Californian. So, that's what….

01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:02.000
You know, that's the process. Verify that they are published on.

01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:10.000
Global family. You know, if they're not published on a. Place where you can look it up on… on, like, the LRO E-Verify system, for example.

01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:17.000
Yeah, and that's where we keep going in circles, is because, um, not you and me, I mean, like, our state right now.

01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:18.000
Mm-hmm.

01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:26.000
Um, because you don't ever see them, so…. To me, published means they're made public.

01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:27.000
This is….

01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:33.000
And that, like, you know, so I don't know if I'm just missing something. Am I misunderstanding what published means?

01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:38.000
Well. What you want to know is….

01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:44.000
Are they status corrected? So, did they… what is… what are the names of the documents that they published?

01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:47.000
And what is their name?

01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:51.000
I'm asking, how is it considered published if they're never public?

01:42:51.000 --> 01:43:00.000
No, what the issue is that their name. Is published, and what documents are….

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:09.000
That the documents are published. It's not that…. You have to… you have to see the actual documents.

01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:16.000
Someone else already did, that is… that has the role. At Global Family to do just that.

01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:18.000
Michelle, may I again, Rocky? If you publish your paperwork in the county.

01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:23.000
Yeah, go ahead, Rocky.

01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:24.000
Solo de facto, right? They're considered public, because that's a public recording.

01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:28.000
Mm-hmm.

01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:35.000
You cannot see them unless you pay for it. Right? But that doesn't mean they're not published publicly. They are published.

01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:40.000
And they are public, you just can't see them unless you go down to their office.

01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:45.000
Or you…. Basically pay them for… over the internet.

01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:48.000
You know, it's like $1, $10, whatever, so you can get the paperwork.

01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:55.000
So, it's kind of the same thing, where. Gfg, you have to ask them for the paperwork.

01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:00.000
But they're only going to give you what they got. Which is going to be the ones that are signed and whatever.

01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:07.000
And the same thing is if you're trying to. I understand she wants it published, meaning everybody can go see it.

01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:14.000
But again, if you put it in the library. And now somebody goes down to the library, they don't see it.

01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:15.000
Yep.

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:16.000
So is it public or not public?

01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:22.000
Well. And then, to add to that, Rocky, you're right. And so, like, my paperwork that I received back from.

01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:33.000
New Mexico and from Alaska, my copies have…. Acknowledgements on them that have been stamped that they've been published.

01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:36.000
This is Dennis on Arizona, may I?

01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:38.000
Yay, Dennis! Shed some light!

01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:39.000
Yes, Dennis.

01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:44.000
I don't know if I'll shed some light, but…. Um.

01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:49.000
Global family, they say they publish, they don't make it public.

01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:53.000
Okay, so they're not published. They are recorded. They are recorded.

01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:57.000
I did….

01:44:57.000 --> 01:45:08.000
And, um, you have a stamp number. Now. For Global Family to get that paperwork, the people have to have that paperwork to submit it to Global.

01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:12.000
All right, so all I have to do is show you the original.

01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:16.000
Copies. So, whether it's on the LRO.

01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:26.000
It used to be on the LRS. We bypass that whole problem and have our own recording and publishing on our own.

01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:32.000
For Arizona website. So, if somebody has a name or a number.

01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:37.000
You can go to our website. And people that are published there will….

01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:44.000
Paperwork will show up. Okay, you won't be able to get any copies from Global.

01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:48.000
But the people should have the originals for that to show you.

01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.000
I yield.

01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:55.000
And I want to share an example of publishing that also.

01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:59.000
Um…. Okay, this is a picture.

01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:05.000
Of a newspaper. Publishing. Okay, so wait, I hope this little….

01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:18.000
Box isn't in the way, but…. You see how it shows California Assembly 2023-2024 official election results, the California Assembly du jour, State of the Union, and Member of the United States of America.

01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000
Blah blah blah blah blah. You get down to the names.

01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:25.000
Right? It shows the name. It doesn't show….

01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:33.000
Any documents. But it does show the name, it does show the role.

01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:39.000
So, this is a type of publishing, even though you can't see the.

01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:45.000
The ballot count, you can't see all of that on the newspaper.

01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.000
But… but the name is there. You see?

01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:58.000
Michelle, if I may, the other thing is, is that global is a trade bank, so it's already on living jurisdiction.

01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:02.000
So, by the fact that you have any paperwork at all.

01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:07.000
Requires that you be a living man or woman in order to have a bank account.

01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:08.000
Mm-hmm.

01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:15.000
So, that, that's a second witness to validate your claim to be living. So you've already….

01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:19.000
Taking away the presumption of being a person.

01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:24.000
That's a really great point, Mike. Yeah, but I can also… I can also.

01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:30.000
See the frustrating side of it for people that actually want to be the ones.

01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:35.000
To see…. Someone's paperwork.

01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:41.000
Publishing, um, um…. Recording and publishing.

01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:46.000
When we had LRS back in…. You know, gosh, I got… mine was done on….

01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:53.000
In 2021 on LRS. And, um….

01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:59.000
At minimum, it had… it had to be up there for 60 days, or 60 days or 90 days. Right now, I forget.

01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:06.000
It was up there the whole time until LRS got shut down. I think it was 90 days, but anyway, um….

01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:11.000
It had to be up there for a minimum amount of time.

01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:21.000
And, you know, otherwise it didn't stand. So, and it's the same thing when people hang paperwork up in a local, um, public.

01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:26.000
Building. You know, you may not go… unless you go, like, uh.

01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:35.000
Dennis was saying, unless you go down there and go look at the paperwork, you're not going to actually see the paperwork. But the process itself was completed.

01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000
Michelle, can I mention something?

01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:40.000
Yeah, what's your name? Is it… is it actually Cece? Oh, hey, Sherry! Hi, sure, go ahead.

01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:48.000
Oh, it's Sherry on Utah. So, it's my understanding that.

01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:54.000
And I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that if you publish on Global, that it is a legit publishing site.

01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:59.000
But I think it's a good idea to also. Publish at the county.

01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:08.000
Or the LRO, or the LRS, or these other ways. Because when you go to get your passport, you're going to want to have that label that it's been recorded somewhere.

01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:14.000
But, yeah, it's my understanding that it's actually probably good to do both of them.

01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:22.000
Because you can't get the documents from Global, even though it's a recording site, so I would suggest people just do both.

01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:29.000
That's a great suggestion. Yeah, I mean…. You know, if we can do Skywriter, like….

01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.000
A Michelle Mary Grok has her hand up, um, Mary might be able to lend some….

01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:41.000
Oh, yes! We've got Mary Ann… we've got two global family folks here. Go ahead, Mary.

01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:42.000
And thank you, Lisa.

01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:52.000
Hey, everybody. Um, couple things of clarification. One. Global Family Group not only reviews your documents once, they review them twice.

01:49:52.000 --> 01:50:02.000
All documents go through a double verification process. Before you get a master account attached to your, um, to your profile.

01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:12.000
Um, another… another set of eyes comes along. And looks at all that… all that documentation that you uploaded to make sure.

01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:20.000
That it is indeed acceptable, because people make mistakes, and it does happen where sometimes documents are accepted by somebody.

01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:31.000
Um, on a first level of admin status. They're still, you know, learning or whatever, and they accept them, and they shouldn't have. One of the prime examples is.

01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:38.000
Uploading page 1 of 9 of your fee schedule. Well, that doesn't count as an uploaded document, because you didn't upload the whole thing.

01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:45.000
So, we end up deleting them and telling people to go back, try again, you know, and upload all 9 pages.

01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:53.000
That's one thing. Um, second thing. Your notaries, even in the C jurisdiction.

01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:59.000
When they witnessed you putting your hand to your document, they are having the same exact.

01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:06.000
Function as a recording secretary in our jurisdiction. That is a recording.

01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:12.000
Function for them to witness you putting your hand to that piece of paper and watching you.

01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:15.000
Put your name on that piece of paper, signing, autographing, whatever.

01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:22.000
So, when you upload those documents to your, uh, Global Family Group account.

01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:28.000
The recording process has already been done by the notary, if you took it to a notary.

01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:35.000
If you took it to your assembly's recording secretary, of course, your recording secretary witnessed you, and that is the recording.

01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:43.000
That number being put on your document. Um, does… serves as the evidence that it was recorded.

01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:52.000
Uh, so that really isn't evidence that it's been published, that's really evidence that it's been recorded, but we call it a publishing number.

01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:59.000
Right? So…. I apologize, here I am talking to everybody, and I don't even have my camera on. Shame on me.

01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:04.000
Um, anyway…. Um, so….

01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:13.000
The publishing part that Global Family Group does, yeah, it's not public for everybody to view it all the time, like it is on the LRO.

01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:21.000
But if you know what your recording number is. You can go and verify that on their verification website.

01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:30.000
And it'll pop up that, yes, it's verified and validated as a legitimate publishing number.

01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:37.000
Okay, or a recording number. So…. If you publish something in a newspaper, like I did in my.

01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:43.000
Our land patent back in 2022. I can't go and look at that in the newspaper anymore.

01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:49.000
I had to put my land patent up on the web… on our assembly's website for 60 days.

01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:53.000
To make sure it was viewable by the public for 60 days.

01:52:53.000 --> 01:53:01.000
But after that, it's no longer in the public view. You know, so I think we might be getting a little too hung up on… on the point that it's.

01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:13.000
Documents are viewable. As long as that man or woman can bring you their documents, their original documents, the wet ink originals is what they should be providing to the assemblies.

01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:21.000
They bring you their wet ink originals or mail them to you, you know, most of us have people spread out across our states and don't have.

01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:27.000
You know, the ability to see people face-to-face to collect them, so we send them via the U.S. Mail, right?

01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:32.000
Um, as long as you can get your eyes on those documents and validate.

01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:42.000
Them for yourselves, that they're acceptable for your assembly. There should be no issue. Take them, and have a copy for your assembly.

01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:48.000
That should be the end of it. And if they have a credential card, an old credential card from the LRS.

01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:53.000
Like, Michelle, you do, I do, lots of people have a credential card from the LRS.

01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:59.000
That's also evidence of having published your. Um, documents.

01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:09.000
And having your documents verified by somebody. That they were legitimate, they were accurate, they were able to be there, and they did correct your status. So….

01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:14.000
Um, that's my two cents on a Thursday night.

01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:21.000
Thank you, Mary. And Paula, you've got your hand up, too.

01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:29.000
Well, she… she actually covered most of what I was gonna say, but I was just gonna add to that, I mean, if someone… if you guys are really….

01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:36.000
Really wanting to… some kind of verification. Have them take a picture of the recording number from their.

01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:39.000
Or snap it on their phone, or take a picture of their computer screen.

01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:51.000
If there's a recording number, and they actually have an account number, they've been through, like Maury said, several people have verified and confirmed that their documents are accurate. If they have a master account number.

01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:56.000
Then their documents are good to go. Everything's on the LR… I mean, everything's on global.

01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:03.000
And that should be plenty of verification.

01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:10.000
Awesome, thank you, Paula. All right, now, more hands have gone up, but before I go to the newest hands, um….

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:19.000
We've got Joseph's hand still up, Rocky's hand still up, Sandra and Christy, do any of you want to speak, or are you still waiting for Anna?

01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:23.000
Who hasn't answered me back yet? All right.

01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:28.000
I'd like to speak… I have a question from Mary, or Mari.

01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:29.000
Sure, go ahead, Christy.

01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:34.000
If I could. Yeah, I was, uh, wondering, what does it mean when you have your account opened on.

01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:39.000
Global, but the Account tab is missing. Um, because my father had….

01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:43.000
All his paperwork accepted, and all of his stuff is reported, and then.

01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:50.000
You know, he has the account open, but. The account section and the tools section is not on his….

01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:58.000
Account, and none of his deposits are going in, so…. We emailed them on May 12th, but haven't heard any.

01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.000
Response, so I was just wondering…. What would that mean?

01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:10.000
If he… was he ever able to look at his account and see, um, distributions going into his account?

01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:11.000
No.

01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:16.000
Okay, it doesn't sound like he's had the master account actually attached yet.

01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:24.000
Um, just because documents are accepted doesn't mean that the master account has been attached. There's a whole other process.

01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:39.000
That is done after that. So once they're all accepted, then another set of admins goes through, and they look at all of those documents that were accepted originally to verify that, yes, indeed, everything's good to go.

01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:45.000
Before that master account is attached. So if he's not seeing that master account attached at all.

01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:51.000
And not having the tools button there, that just means that it hasn't been….

01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:55.000
Fully through the process. When did he open his account again?

01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:03.000
Um, before May, and we sent the message May, so it was probably, I believe, April?

01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:04.000
Okay.

01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:10.000
Um, does that mean he will receive the back pay that was missed? Because he should have been getting deposits….

01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:16.000
It's all this time, and it's just not… there's nothing. You know, like you said, the account's not attached to it, so….

01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:23.000
Yeah, there's… there's a really big backlog of people, because there's probably only 7 or 8 of us.

01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:34.000
That do the second round account reviews. So… and for people to get to that point, there's quite a lengthy training that they have to go through before.

01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:42.000
Um, they can be approved to be at an admin level where they can do the, um, account attachments, the master account attachments.

01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:49.000
Um, so…. Being there's only, like, about 8 of us, I think? I think that's the number of them.

01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:58.000
Like, 8 that are doing the second round reviews. There's a really big backlog, um, of people waiting that, and no, there is not any….

01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:10.000
Retroactive distributions going on, unless there was…. Like, some big, um, falling through the cracks thing. Like, I've… I've had some accounts where.

01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:16.000
You know, somebody had all their documents accepted, they were getting distributions, and then they weren't getting distributions.

01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:22.000
And then we can go back and make those corrections. There are exceptions to that, but generally, if.

01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:26.000
When I open my account, it didn't do that. It opened right away, it didn't….

01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:29.000
It never not had the account tab or tools tab, it was.

01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000
Right from day one, opened and…. Mine was last June, I believe.

01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:40.000
When did you open your account? A lot less people coming through a year ago than there are now. There's.

01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.000
Okay.

01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:53.000
There's on the worldwide scale now, you've got a lot of people in South Africa, you've got a lot of people in South America, a lot of people, even in Europe now.

01:58:53.000 --> 01:59:01.000
That are coming through Global Family, so there's a lot more people outside of the United States of America.

01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:10.000
That are, um, coming into Global Family, so…. And those countries all have their people working with global family group, too, just that it's.

01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:13.000
Still, it's just not enough. It's just like in our assemblies, right?

01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:19.000
Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's all. As you guys need a lot more. I wish I could volunteer to help.

01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:21.000
So, I had one more question, though, and I don't… then I can, you know.

01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:31.000
Oh, wait. Sorry, Christy, I don't mean to interrupt you, but I'm seeing in the chat that… I guess I cut Melissa off, and I'm so sorry, Melissa didn't yield the floor.

01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:39.000
So, um, I just want to offer that up. Is that okay, Christy, to just, uh, check in with Melissa really quick? And, um, we'll… we'll go back to you.

01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:41.000
Certainly, yeah, I…. Sure.

01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:47.000
Sorry about that, Melissa.

01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:48.000
And thank you to… yeah, thanks… thanks, people in the chat. Okay.

01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:52.000
That's okay, I did have… so… Thanks, you guys! Appreciate that.

01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:54.000
Go ahead, Melissa.

01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:59.000
Um, so, yeah, I'm not… I'm not trying to beat a dead horse. So….

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Okay, because our concern as a coordinator, my concern was that because it wasn't public.

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They're not being published. So we were asking people to make sure that they were going on the LRO as well as GFG.

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We have a group of people who. I'm not gonna get into it, we all have them, but they don't want to go on the LRO and all of that, and they're making a huge deal about this, which is fine, but….

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I just want to make sure, because my job is to protect the people.

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Right? I want to make sure that they're doing the right process.

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So, if we simply just take copies of their original GFG-filed paperwork along with their.

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Um, birth certificate and make that into a paper file and put that in our records, then that's going to be considered that they are fine, and we just let it go.

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And that's… I mean, we'll suggest to them, right? Like, hey, if you want it to be public, if you want to get a credential card through the LRO, where when you hand that puppy over, and the QR code gets scanned, all of your documents can be pulled up.

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And that has power to it, then you're probably going to want to do this. But otherwise, we just wash our hands and let it be, yes?

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Yep. Yep, I believe so. And I, I know that, um, just….

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Okay.

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Fyi to everybody here, I know Terry has been in conversation with Anna on this too, so there may be some more clarification coming from Anna.

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Um, on this as well, just because of this whole unable to view in the public.

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You know, not able to sit at your computer at home and see what somebody has published for paperwork.

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Like Rocky said, I… my county is the same way. I put my documents on my state of state county.

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And the only way I can go see them is to go up to that county and view them on their computers, unless I pay a fee.

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To access them remotely from my home. So…. Um, just because you can't see them on the public record, I don't think necessarily negates that they aren't.

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That they are published, you know what I'm saying? I think if they can give you their recording number, Melissa, off from GFG.

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Okay.

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And then you can go to GFG to that Verify page and verify that it comes back that, yes, they've got an.

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You know, they've got everything there. I would just use that as your documentation that they're published.

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Yeah. Okay, and this is where the self-governing comes in on their part.

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Okay.

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Exactly. You know, if they're coming into the assembly, I don't understand why they wouldn't want to have their documents published on.

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Either the LRO. That is chartered by the Federation or any state's own LRO, if they have, you know, any state assembly that has their own LRO, like Arizona does.

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Why wouldn't you want it there? Don't you want people to know that you've corrected your status? That just doesn't make sense to me.

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Yeah, we have a little subdivision that's creating some issues that's creating division.

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So, yeah, there's that. That's what it's all about. So, thank you, everybody, I really appreciate you. Thank you, Mary. All right, I yield.

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Yeah. Welcome.

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Thank you, Melissa. All right, back to you, Christy. Go ahead, Christy.

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Okay, okay, I just had a question, because I know we were all trying to figure out what exactly this meant, but.

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One of the… one of the shows Anna had said something like, they were just, um.

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Going through one last module that they had to, like, you know, trudge their way through at GFG.

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And I was wondering, what exactly is that module, and did they… were they able to.

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Complete that.

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That's a question for the… anybody who's on the Banking Committee with Global Family Group, and I have no clue who those people are.

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Okay.

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We're not it, you know, like… like Paula and I and any of the other volunteers with Global Family Group, with what we do.

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We aren't privy to any of that either, um, what's going on with the actual banking stuff.

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Don't know. We'll have to just…. Be patient and wait for the word to come. Maybe tomorrow?

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Hey, that sounds wonderful. We thank you so much for everything, all the hard work.

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Donna?

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And if you guys want to send out something for everybody that would like to, um, maybe help volunteer.

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I mean, I'm sure there would be a lot of people that… I know you said there's a lot to go through for training, but I think, you know.

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Many people would want to help out if there's only 8 of you.

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I think that's the new education thing that they just put out, and they just put it out this week. They just got it completed.

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It's a really nice, um, module, and it's for more than just people.

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Coming in to help as an admin status for. Global Family Group to eventually, you know, the idea is to have that training there for people to learn about the paperwork process, too.

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And I have a feeling you're going to see that in the next newsletter that they send out, that there's going to be the link in there to go and check out this training module, and….

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You know, maybe as you go through that, as people go through that, they'll go, oh, I could do something like this for Global Family Group, and they'll take some more of those people on. You know, they aren't going to get up to the admin status real fast of.

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Um, putting on accounts, they gotta see the fruits of your labor first, and make sure that you really, truly understand what you're doing, because.

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Honestly, you could allow somebody to have an account that never should have an account. Like, we've got people applying to get a Global Family Group account.

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That aren't even 21 years old yet. And they're not showing proof of emancipation or anything, and those are some of the things that.

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Could slip through the cracks if somebody's not totally paying attention when they're reviewing those initial applications.

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Um, they could get through, and then will come along and look at all of that and go, ooh, nope, they can't have their account yet, and that would be a dangerous thing, because.

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They just can't have access until they meet the land requirements.

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You know?

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I love that Global has that second layer of protection. Sorry to interrupt, Christy.

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Okay.

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That's okay. I just wanted to say one last thing, because, um, somebody had commented in the chat.

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To put my dad's name in there, and they would, um, check for me, but I don't know where that went to respond.

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I did put his name and email in here, but I don't know who the person was that.

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Texted that. I can't find it in the chat.

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I'll see if I can find it, too. One of us will take care of it. There's a couple of us on here, so….

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Okay, thank you so much, I yield.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you, Christy, and thank you, Mary, also, for, you know, being ready on the spot for these questions, and same for you, Paula. Thank you both.

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All right, well guys, um, not to call you guys, sorry about that, um….

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So, Anna hasn't responded, and it's been just over 2 hours, so I'm kind of thinking maybe we should wrap it up.

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I know we still have those few hands up. You guys have been waiting so patiently, uh, for Anna to show up, but she's not….

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She's not responding, so something must have happened, you know. Not necessarily an emergency, but something is taking her attention.

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And so, um…. What do you guys think about wrapping up?

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Calling it a night.

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I'm all for that, Michelle. Everybody have a wonderful 4th of July.

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I'll make a motion to adjourn.

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A hole!

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Good night, all.

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Okay.

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Okay. Thanks, everybody.

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Yep.

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Good night.

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Does everybody know about these special….

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Thank you! We had a great meeting.

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4th of July.

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Uh, Michelle? Michelle?

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Great meeting.

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Thank you, Nat.

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Does everybody know about this, the…. The special meeting tomorrow.

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Uh, Karen, yeah, go.

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With Missy.

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Oh, yeah, Neeti and Anna are having a July 4th special, so if you go to Neithi's YouTube channel, you could subscribe to get the alert, um, as a reminder to have you hop on.

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They're having a special meeting tomorrow. They skipped Tuesday. So, um….

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It'll be tomorrow instead. I know I want to hear it.

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I'm hoping we'll hear what we all want to hear.

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I think it's at 3.30 Eastern, but it's YouTube, it's recorded.

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Right.

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This is exciting! Happy 4th! Woohoo!

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Thanks. Thanks, Michelle. We support California.

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Yeah, it's one of my favorite…. You're….

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Thank you. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, everybody. Thank you for being here tonight. Thank you for your patience.

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12….

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Really, thank you all. It was a great meeting. Good night.

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Oh, thank you. Teamwork makes the dream work, everybody. So, go ye forth.

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Thank you, Michelle.

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And multiply. Thank you. Good night!

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Goodnight, Michelle!

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Get in touch with me, Michelle. Jocelyn.

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Oh, who said that? Oh, thank you, Jocelyn. Okay.

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Good night, everyone!

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Happy 4th of July, Michelle. Have a good night. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mike, good night.

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Night, John Boy. Have a good weekend, Michelle.

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Good night, all. Thank you, you too!

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Good night, Al